BattleCry for the Nuggz to get some NUTS!
by the big bill on Sep 29, 2010 4:24 AM MDT
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I am staunchly opposed to this "rebuilding" nonsense. Our team is talented and for the most part, well-coached. There is no need to "blow-up" the roster after Melo leaves. I say the Nuggz should do a preemptive strike and trade Melo as a one year-rental, for another one-year rental such as T. Prince. Our team needs to stop running this ridiculous iso-offense and start to focus on defense and rebounding. Our team is plenty talented enough to score, especially if we actually ran an offense instead of just passing the ball to Melo or having Chauncey and JR chuck threes.
Randolph and Gallo? No thank you. I just don't see these guys as significant contributors to our team in the future. If Randolph truly does have attitude problems, then that is last thing this team needs. Although its appealing to think of the Nuggz getting another sharp shooter in Gallo, do any of you honestly believe another chucker will help the Nuggets accomplish anything?
Brook Lopez is not all that. Sure, he is tall and averaged decent numbers last year, but he lead his team to an impressive 12 wins last season. Nene, Kmart, or maybe even Birdman would have posted similar numbers had they played on a dump 12-win team last year like Brook did. Not a very impressive prospect in my humble opinion.
Who cares that Nene plays center. Back when we had Camby at center with Nene/Martin at power forward, we still didn't make it out of the first round. Let Nene be our center. If he continues to be soft, that is the coaches fault. Nene is a beast when he wants to be. He needs motivation from Karl and Billups. Same thing with JR. What this team lacks most is defense and mental toughness. If we trade Melo, we must improve these two areas.
I can understand why so many people on this blog love Ty and Aaron so much, but they are not going to single-handedly carry this team. If we blow up our roster and entrust the future to these two you'd better believe that they won't stay for long with the Nuggets racking up several 10-12 win seasons. Ty and Aaron, as of right now are roll players. Ty MIGHT develop into a starting NBA point guard, but lets not kid ourselves. He is no where near the level of Billups even though Chauncey has aged quite a bit.
My whole point is this: don't trade Melo to NY. If we do trade him we must receive players that can play defense and are mentally tough. If the Nuggets plan on earning a profit this season, then rebuilding is out of the question. I agree that we need to hold on to our draft picks and try to acquire more if possible, but we cannot expect to land another Melo in the draft anytime soon. It would be much wiser to keep the team competitive.
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im still hoping for...
iguodala and favors
I thought it wasn't a bad post
You have good points, especially about Lopez being overrated. If defense is what we need to be concerned about we just passed up a deal that would have landed us two defensive bigs. I agree with you that rebuilding can be avoided, but that’s only if we can trade Melo. Letting him walk pretty much equals rebuilding to me.
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If you said Nene=Lopez
Vs. KMart/ Birdman, I think people could buy that.
We all know KMart/Birdman can’t be offensive beasts. KMart is too old for that and Birdman is just a good energy player.
There may be a renaissance for many of the talented players that Denver has if Melo leaves. Nene and JR could be a lot mroe productive (stat-wise) because they would have the ball in their hands a lot more. Maybe the team will realize that everyone is accountable on offense just like defense and they won’t just stand and watch like they did when Melo had the ball.
I remeber that time we beat LA in LA without Melo. JR, Billups, and Lawson provided a lot of the scoring, while KMart, Nene, and Bird provided enforcement on D.
When JR was hot in the 4th, LA could do nothing to stop us, and yes they were at full-strength that night and were trying their best to beat us. This gives me some hope in a post-Melo era especially if we get the right trade that nets us a guy for the future (Favors), and a young guy who can help now (Iggy).
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
If there is a hard cap
Like many owners outside of LA and MIA want, then the Nugs could be competitive very quickly with a team that has Favors, Lawson, AAA, Nene, and MAYBE Smith.
Gotta love the haterz. Keep that hate a comin'
by JR15 on Sep 29, 2010 3:13 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
About the only thing I agree with in this post is that AAA is a role player
Look, I like Afflalo. He’s a good-very good defensive SG who can shoot the three. He just can’t do anything else. He can’t drive, he can’t handle the ball, and he’s not much a mid range player. I think his ceiling is basically Bruce Bowen but a little better offensively and a little worse defensively. In no way do I say that as a sleight to him either. He’s paid about $5M over the next two years which is exactly commiserate with his ability, especially if a hard cap goes into place. All this talk I hear about resigning him next year to a 4/$20-25M deal is crazy. If Afflalo gets even even 4/$16 I’ll be very disappointed. I’d let him play out these two years, offer him 2/$6 and if he moves on, he moves on. Afflalo is the exact type of player you can get in the late first or second round, out of the D-League, or cheaply as a veteran FA.
Yes and no
You can get a poor mans version of AAA, but they wont have his defensive skills and they wont shoot 43% from range. Someone like AAA can be had with luck, but then do you have a Wes Mathews situation?
Pretending I'm GM
I would never end up in a Wes Matthews situation, simply because while these players are useful, how big of a difference can they really make to the bottom line (wins)? I just wouldn’t give them anywhere near that type of contract. Sure, I might get a player a little worse than Afflalo, or I might get one a little better than him. If I end up with Dahntay Jones? No problem. Joey Graham? Fine. A defensive stopper at the 2/3 spot is the single, easiest useful position (maybe an undersized shoot-first PG is in the running) to fill in the NBA. However, I’d rather save the difference in his salary and a minimum/rookie and throw that much more at a true or potential “difference-maker.” Of course, I understand that there’s not always a FA available to throw that extra money at, but then it comes down to keeping the flexibility in hopes that one does become available, sooner or later.
The only time I would sign Afflalo or a similar player to a slightly inflated deal was if I already had my key pieces on the team. Kind of like SA’s situation with Bowen. They already had Duncan, Manu, and Parker to carry the team. Bowen’s fit with that team was perfect and proven. In that case, I don’t mind giving an extra year and a few extra million over the contract to keep the continuity of a championship team. Same with the Lakers and Derek Fisher. In the Nuggets situation though? Not so much. Afflalo just isn’t that type of building block type player where you give multiple years or even medium-level money without the rest of the team in place.
I agree completely.
For a rebuilding team, a guy like AAA is silly. For a contender, he is essential.
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