Hoop Dreams no more
Denver's newest edition, Al Harrington, has been all smiles on his ride to town. But one criticism of the 6'9'' forward is that he's 30 years-old and has perhaps peaked as a player. It's funny when you compare your own age to the NBA age stereotypes ... the results can be horrifying.
Let's quickly run through the Nuggets current roster and the stereotypes that come with their age:
The grandpa: Anthony Carter sitting at 35 years-old he is practically ancient by basketball standards. The athleticism he possessed 10 years ago certainly has changed and if he doesn't have the skills now, he'll never have them and even worse, the ones he did possess have already slipped or are starting to slip. Each year Carter is on an NBA roster is a blessing as the young guys are gunning for his job. (You have to wonder if like some of George Karl's other players, Nate McMillan and Sam Cassell, if A.C. has an interest in coaching.)
The savvy veterans: Chauncey Billups, 33, Chris Andersen, 32, and Kenyon Martin 32. These guys are your players that have "been through it all" and are surviving off the skills and knowledge they developed in their careers. They still have most of their skills, but certain parts of their games are starting to show cracks, but they can still get by on what they do best.
In their prime: Al Harrington, 30, Nene, 27, and Coby Karl, 27. This group should have now obtained the tricks of the League to go along with still having their skills intact. This is as good as these guys are going to get as their teams are benefitting from their best basketball.
Entering their prime: Carmelo Anthony, 26, Renaldo Balkman, 26, Shelden Williams, 26, Brian Butch, 25, Arron Afflalo, 24, and J.R. Smith, 24. Still physical specimens that have been around long enough to start perfecting the tricks of the game. You will still see some improvement as more of the game within the game opens up, and having their skills still climbing a bit is a dangerous weapon. Fear these players if you are the opposition.
The young guns: Ty Lawson, 22. The best way to describe this group comes from the movie Swingers:
Trent: You know what you are? You're like a big bear with claws and with fangs...
Sue: ...big fucking teeth, man.
Trent: Yeah... big fuckin' teeth on ya'. And she's just like this little bunny, who's just kinda cowering in the corner.
Sue: Shivering.
Trent: Yeah, man just kinda... you know, you got these claws and you're staring at these claws and your thinking to yourself, and with these claws you're thinking, "How am I supposed to kill this bunny, how am I supposed to kill this bunny?"
Sue: And you're poking at it, you're poking at it...
These guys have all the skills and they've been through an NBA season or two and they are trying to figure out the best way to blend their skills into a league rooted in name brands ... names like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Michael Jordan and on-and-on. Find your niche and use your claws to start killing your prey ... they will make you fat and happy - or you will starve to death.
The rookies: None for Denver. Some special guys like Carmelo Anthony come into the league as Young Guns and just need to figure out how to hone in their skill set. But for the most part, rookies are trying to just figure out what the hell world they just entered.
Now, back to my point ... if I were an NBA player I'd be in my prime heading towards becoming a savvy veteran. It's tough to realize I'm no longer a Young Gun. In the real world I'm still basically a young guy that is still learning the ropes, but in the crazy world of sports the aging process isn't so kind.
It's also fun to try to imagine if you were playing in the league what kind of player you'd be ... and actually be realistic about it. For myself, I'm in love with shooting from distance, but I'm typically looked upon to play inside as a post-up man and rebounder. In the world of pick-up games I'm a shooting guard trapped in a power forward's body. So, while I'd like to think I'm probably a Mehmet Okur type player ... in reality I'm only Anthony Carter's height.
The reason I like basketball so much is because it's my favorite sport to play. At 28 years-old I wonder how many years I have left on the court. I recently changed gyms in Casper, Wyoming to one with a basketball court. I was at a small gym for a couple months that didn't have a court and I missed the game too much. The only problem I face now is that there is virtually nobody else at the gym who plays hoops! What gives?!?! My "best years" on the court could be wasted if I dont find some games soon. It's a shame to think some actual NBA players could face the same fate as a work stoppage approaches after the upcoming season. The game we love could come to a sudden stop, but we can play on.
So my question to you ... what kind of player are you?
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Nate you're too young to be having a mid life crisis ;-p
Great write up as usual though. I’d be in the Savvy Veteran category….I’m 32 (Chris Andersen is a week older than me) so apparently Im “Old Head”
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 6:59 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
My game is a strange mix:
Part Yao Ming, Part Dirk, part Kevin Durant, Part Ryan Bowen, part Rodney White.
yes.
Rodney White.
I’m not proud of that one… haha.
Interesting mix … Rodney White huh? So you’d be out of the league already!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:04 AM MDT up reply actions
i wouldnt worry, im sure there will be some revolutionary science in our lifetime
That will allow the Magics and the Birds and the Michael Jordans to get back out on the court and revitalize their careers!
by InboundingLobPass on Jul 30, 2010 2:00 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
My game is a cross between
Lew Alcindor and jr smith. I’m like you nate I like to play in the low post but I can knock down the three and I have a sweet hook shot. Also I can pout on the bench and grab a few boards .
by tknuckle on Jul 30, 2010 4:50 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
My game resembles
Joe Pesci from “The Super”
by stiffy on Jul 30, 2010 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
This can't be good ... haha
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions
I hate playing in the post on offense! I have no post moves…at all! But I don’t mind defending in the post.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm only 18...
And I’m like…
Not sure to be honest. I play 1,2 or 3. I play big for my size, have no true position, though I’d say two. Faster than most, smarter than most, but I can also either come out and be the best player on the court, or just flat-out suck.
I’m like Nick Young, I think.
Perhaps in the young Scottie Pippen mold?
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions
I was washed up a long time ago
When I played as a practice dummy in college I was too small to be a big guy and too slow to be a little guy. I was on the team because I could jump, dunk and block shots on guys who were bigger than I am. In high school I always played center and there I was usually bigger than my opponent so I was quite effective. When I played in high school, there was no three point shot, that was only in the ABA, so I was essentially forbidden to take long shots. All my scoring was close in. Dunking was not allowed either but I managed to make some pretty nice plays off the lob pass. I always wanted my game to be a mix of Wilt, Kareem, Dr. J, David Thompson and Bill Walton. I could never make a hook shot like Kareem (or Byron Beck) but I had a deadly jump hook which I was strongly discouraged from using simply because back then it wasn’t orthodox: “That’s no way to shoot a hook shot!”. Nowdays it is considered part of the game.
These days my license plates have the wheelchair/disabled logo on them so you can tell I am well past washed up. You can also tell how long ago I played seriously by the references.
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That's awesome Thursty, ahead of your time ... once upon a time!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions
No one will believe me, BUT...
…when I was 20 years old and “only” 6’3", I could dunk a basketball simply by standing under the basket and jumping straight up. Now I’m over 6’5", am 34 years old, weigh about 215 pounds and have had ACL surgery…so not only are my days of competitive basketball over, but I can’t jump worth a shit. When I was younger and played regularly, I was often compared to Birdman or Marcus Camby. I was a solid shot blocker and rebounder, but could never shoot well. But unlike Camby I wouldn’t shoot anyway…
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by Andrew Feinstein on Jul 30, 2010 9:18 AM MDT reply actions
To clarify...
…a very poor man’s Birdman/Camby!
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by Andrew Feinstein on Jul 30, 2010 9:37 AM MDT up reply actions
But unlike Camby I wouldn’t shoot anyway…
haha! That’s good stuff!
Pretty crazy to have a growth spurt that late and a touch frustrating I bet since you could have used the extra height on the court.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:03 AM MDT up reply actions
Indeed...
I grew two-and-a-half inches after I was 20 years old.
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by Andrew Feinstein on Jul 30, 2010 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Damn Feinstein, that's impressive.
My buddy is 6’3 and he can dunk but it takes a few tries, and that’s running too. You must have had serious hops to be able to have done what you did.
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by GoldenNugget on Jul 30, 2010 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions
If you're 6' 3" and can't dunk on 2 steps then it doesn't count
I’m 6’3" and used to be able to dunk on 2 steps which meant a couple of important things to me:
1. I could legally dunk in a game without being called for traveling
and
2. I could make fun of the dudes who had to run to dunk!!!
And yes that does say “used to” rather than “am able to”. That ship sailed.
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Keep in mind this kid doesn't play that much ball
In fact he hardly ever plays, so I think it’s pretty cool. At 6’1 I still pretty far away from dunking. Last year when I was at the best shape I’ve been in a while I could run, jump and hang on the rim but I never really could come close to dunking.
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by GoldenNugget on Jul 30, 2010 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions
I was 6' 3"
when I was a sophomore in HS. I never really tried to dunk until I was strongly encouraged by some one else. I started just running with the ball, but as I got better at it I got so I could do it legally and by the time the season was over I could do a behind the back on a running dunk. By senior year and 6’ 5" I could do a behind the back from a standing jump. You also have to remember that this was before the breakaway rims and it was a lot harder to do on those unforgiving rims. Hanging on those rims was not at all an appealing prospect. On a running jump I could touch the top of the box. I tore my ACL in college but the doctors wren’t convinced. I went 13 years with a torn ACL. The orthopedist who figured it out said that my leg was so strong that it kept the doctors from figuring it out. I’ve had the ACL reconstruction and two scopes on each knee. For me that isn’t even the worst of it. The nerve damage in my feet (from chemotherapy) makes things much worse.
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My old roommate had ACL surgery last year and when the Docs went in they realized the torn meniscus was what had alerted him to his pain as the ACL had been torn for about 3+ years.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 31, 2010 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Nuggets could use that style!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions
My response is that age does not always matter. As point of reference, I have plagiarized Steve Hess' twitter page.
“Entropy!!! a thermodynamic quantity representing the amount of energy, if you are not moving forward you are moving back, move forward!!!”
Steve Hess, 5:49 AM Jul 29th
by MMGraves on Jul 30, 2010 9:35 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I've never done anything with 3 exclamation points worth of enthusiasm at 5 AM...
Love that Steve Hess. He’s so hot right now.
Joe Dumars was a guy I tried to fashion my game after as a kid, tough D, decent jumper, quiet guy on a loud team.
by Artimus Mangilord on Jul 30, 2010 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions
...and after your playing career you'd hand the Nuggets key players?
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions
Haha, I knew someone would have to make a comment like that
You need to demand a trade, Nate. You can’t spend your prime ballin’ years relegated to a town that doesn’t love ball.
by Artimus Mangilord on Jul 30, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions
A true CP3 dilemma for me!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions
I love Swingers! Money baby!
It depends on who I play with I say. If I play with people alot better than me, I’m more of an Arron Afflalo type.
Around the same level of talent I would say Joe Johnson.
Swingers is a great flick!
…if you are J.J. like, can I get some money? You can’t possibly need all $119 million!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions
I wish! hahaha
and now I’m watching swingers tonight! Its been about a year.
by GottaLoveMelo on Jul 30, 2010 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions
I like to watch that one after a relationship ends … yep, I’m corny – but it works!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 1:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Dunno
In my rec league my friends always make me guard the taller guys. Most weeks its the assignment of a 6’9" where I’m only 6’4" on a good day. But my mentality works, I love blocks , rebounding and playing the post. Usually opposing teams walk in thinking they can take advantage of our smaller sizer, usually leaving in wow as I usually out rebound everyone and get a couple blocks.
I hate knee surgery last summer, can still dunk though!
I’m like that guy from Houston, no height, all hustle!
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Chuck Hayes?!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:17 AM MDT up reply actions
thats it
!
Parker ‘rec’ league is anything not so much ‘old rec’. You have a team who claims to be a NBA scout team and video records all their games. My team is just a bunch of friends who have played together, but most these teams are hardcore
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You play in Parker? My hometown!
I logged a TON of minutes at the old Parker rec center off Lincoln in Stonegate area.
Also used to ball a bunch after college at 24-Hour Fitness … one off Parker and Quincy, Coloado and Alameda as well as the one on Hampden in Tiffany Plaza.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions
.
The hold games at the fieldhouse now just down the street.
Prob about 2-3 years ago a was a fixture on the court @ 24 hour fitness on Parker/Quincy. How knows we might of played
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Never been in that field house. Is it pretty nice? Looks good on the outside.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 4:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah its a pretty nice facility.
Although while palying a small 5 on 5 tourney, me and my brother ended up pretty hurt.
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by Joelsopinion on Jul 30, 2010 4:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Are you sure Balkman is entering his prime, or is he too lazy to do so?
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy.
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Hey, I like Balkman!
That’s the thing about age stereotyping, doesn’t always fit the player!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions
I like Balkman too
I just wish he’d actually practice more, then we can see him play more often.
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy.
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he needs to hustle harder!!!
Apparently he’s having fun in Puerto Rico with the team there right now.
by GottaLoveMelo on Jul 30, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions
From Twitter (as you know) it sounds like he's been playing a lot! Good sign and Melo is there or was just there...
…on vacation.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Dude is like 8 in basketball years.
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by Joelsopinion on Jul 30, 2010 1:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm 5'11" and about 200lbs but I have an interesting story in my basketball career
I was an early bloomer, in 7th grade I was already at 5’9" and the starting center for my team. I don’t remember ever losing a tipoff or losing a rebound I was trying to get. I grew another inch in 8th grade and it was more or less the same story. In 9th grade everybody caught up to me over to summer. I was regulated to the 3, then the 2 after that where I topped out at 5’11…
I’d say my game is actually a mix of Chauncey (posting up for a guard) and JR (chucker)… Except I have a pretty good shot
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You damn early bloomers were always a tough guard. Pretty crazy to have people pass you up and go from a center to a shooting guard. Must have been a bit rough!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions
It was humbling, but it rounded outo my game
Blocking out and rebounding still comes naturally to me from playing center and it forced me to develop a shot. It did shoot my dreams down of being 6’4"…
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You could of been the big we were looking for.
Another rebounding shot blocker.
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
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I'd love to but I'd have a hard time rebounding over Gasol and Bynum lol
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In my older brother's class
there was a guy who was 6’ 2" in sixth grade and then he never grew another inch.
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i got
balkman’s conditioning.
shaq’s girth.
boykins’ height.
dahntay’s shooting range.
but im the same age as melo, so im entering the prime of my playing days…..ill be lucky to survive a game of 11, halfcourt!
who wants me on their team!?
let's go nuggets! who u wit?
A very honest look at your game! Maybe you can get a contract from David Kahn?
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
i did give up the ganja
so maybe he will see that im a changed man and will offer me a contract. ill contact him…
let's go nuggets! who u wit?
by 808inDenver on Jul 30, 2010 10:34 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 HAHA
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm 5-7 so that would make me....
…..short. Not only am I short, I’m white too….so I’m doomed to play the sweaty midget with the yellow headband in the 80’s movie of life
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Teen Wolf style?
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions
almost....but I don't look like I've been carved out of lard
…..yet
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I didn't think a person being 5'7" would be considered "short"
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that apparently, by elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy.
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for basketball?? Yes
for everyday life…..nah
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I guess I would be a combination of Pete Maravich and the bad traits of Ron Artest
without the crazy.
Good ball handling and generally decent D. Shoot me if I shoot the ball though. It’s painful to watch.
haha...that's awesome. An interesting mix of the Pistol and a guy who you wouldn't be surprised if he used said pistol.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Dahntay Jones in Spud Webb's body
My interest in basketball started when I was entering my prime, so I relied primarily on plus-plus athleticism. I didn’t have the experience or the reach to get many steals, but was always quick and strong enough to keep my man outside of 15’, and never allowed an uncontested shot. Like Dahntay, I was a pretty good rebounder for my height.
On offense I was more like AC w/o the turnovers. I could move the ball around the court, and could run with a fast break, but had no jumper, no post game, and was dwarfed under the basket, so I was almost useless.
now at 34, I’m a slightly better ball handler and can hit open looks from 15 and out, but I lost a couple of inches on my vert and added it to my gut. Yep, it’s all downhill from here…
Sucks that we just start to grow wider and not taller … thanks life!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 1:40 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm a Micheal Adams/Steve Nash kind of player
Great at passing. Can shoot from where ever.
I’m no defender though. :p
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
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Sounds more like JR...
Can shoot from where ever.
I’m kidding, I’m kidding. I couldn’t help myself. I said I tried to emulate Joe Dumars, so do what you will with that
by Artimus Mangilord on Jul 30, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Joe D WAS the Pistons in the later part of his career
(along with Grant Hill). He was wiley and still a baller at that point. I once saw him pick up his dribble on the perimeter, change his pivot foot, and then drain a turn-around fadeaway three. No travel.
I respect how he took leadership of the Pistons, after the other stars of the “Bad Boy” era split.
As Nate pointed out...
You also gotta love him after his playing career ended as a Nuggets fan
by Artimus Mangilord on Jul 30, 2010 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, unlike Smith, I make those shots. :p
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
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I'd say I'm a mix of Tayshaun Prince and Rip Hamilton
My handles have severely diminished so I’m not great at getting my own shot. i can penetrate when i have to but i’m not blowin past anybody anymore. but I’m good playing off the ball and playing catch and shoot. i also think I rebound and D up better than my height would indicate. people never expect much out of me by looking so I tend to always exceed expectations.
Would this indicate you can shoot with either hand?
Recently when I’ve been shooting around I’ve started shooting free throws left handed for the hell of it. Starting to get pretty decent…can hit 7-8 out of 10 most of the time now.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 1:43 PM MDT up reply actions
Sort of a rare thing in the NBA nowadays...
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 4:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Is this you hinting at taking your talents to South Beach?
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What do you think is better…Casper, WY or South Beach?
Cleveland or South Beach…an easy choice!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions
I'd have to say I'm a combo of Mutombo's shot blocking, a bowling ball and JR's eclectic shooting
I always have to guard the guys in the 6-4 to 6-7 range and I’m only 6-1. I guess I have ape like arms or something…or maybe just a knack for blocking shots. That’s the Mutombo. The bowling ball side is because I can barrel into the lane rather easily for a quick layup. The JR side because I can drain like 5 from beyond the arc in the second and fourth game, and scoreless in the first and third.
Yup, a whole lotta awkward over here.
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You must be built like Melo.
A scouting report talked about his “longer than normal arms” You got a future dude.
Nah, I play Defense
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by Joelsopinion on Jul 30, 2010 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Love the blocks
Personally I think getting a good rejection is the best feeling when playing ball, but that’s just me.
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by GoldenNugget on Jul 30, 2010 2:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Totally agree
It’s one of the few times in a game that you can assert dominance over someone else without a bullshit foul called.
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by Joelsopinion on Jul 30, 2010 3:19 PM MDT up reply actions
+1
to bad i average like one block for an entire season because im so dam short!.. and lets face it, i havn’t got much hops.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 4:12 PM MDT up reply actions
First
Swingers is soooo entirely overrated imo. I hear all my friends all the time talk about how every man in the world should be required to see that movie and how funny it is and blah blah blah. A movie that’s about ten times better than Swingers, made around the same time and with the same sort of moral that every man should be required to see, is Chasing Amy. That, is a brilliant movie.
As for my style of play. I try to take different strenghts and aspects of some of the best players today and in history and model my game after them although I think I mostly just would say I try and resemble Pistol Pete because I have pretty good ball handeling skills and court vision. I do like to post up and I’m fairly big (6’1, 200) so I can board pretty well when needed. But my strenght is definatly team ball and clutch shooting. A couple months ago we were playing a really heated pickup game and it was tied and straight pulled a D-Wade by picking this dude’s pocket then draining the three right after that for the game. It was a highlight of my pickup career for sure.
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No offense on that movie though Nate
I know a lot of people love it and I can’t blame them, I’m just tired of my friends always quoting it all the time and praising it, that’s all. Next time I’ll try not to take out my frustration on fellow Stiffs.
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by GoldenNugget on Jul 30, 2010 2:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Ya GoldenNuggets WTF man!?!?
…hahaha! No worries on the movie hate. I picked up Swingers a LONG time ago at Best Buy or some crap for like $5 without knowing anything about it. I always liked it because I was at a place in life where it just made sense and had some funny lines. Funny how stuff sticks to you like that.
I had a girlfriend in high school that really wanted me to watch Chasing Amy, so we watched it with a bunch of friends and I was pretty distracted the whole time with all the people and didn’t pay much attention to the movie. I think it made her upset, but what are you gonna do? I was like 16 or 17 … perhaps I’ll give it another watch on your recommendation, but if it sucks I’m banning you from the blog! (Probably not)
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Then he will be banned.
Sorry GoldenNugget, that movie is turrible. The scene where the Amy girl is crying and whining about god knows what and it seems to go on for like 45min makes me want to suicide her.
Makes you want to suicide her? Huh?
I don’t know what scene you’re talking about because I’m pretty sure she cries multiple times, but at least she’s convincing when she does. And hey, even if you didn’t like it there’s no way in hell it’s turrible, that’s just not possible considering how well written, acted and directed the film was. It’s just not possible!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by GoldenNugget on Jul 30, 2010 11:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Trust me, if you like Swingers you'll love Chasing Amy
It’s directed by Kevin Smith (Dogma, Clerks, Jay and Silent Bob, etc.) and has a great cast of young up-and-comers of the time. It is kind of a love story, but it’s a manly love story (lol, if there is such a thing) and it has the best love speach of any movie I’ve ever seen, this includes numerous chick flicks. My friends always have a cow over the scene in Swingers where John Favro calls that chick and basically has a relationship over the phone, but in Chasing Amy Ben Affleck delivers an ever better scene by attempting to confess his love to a lesbian (screw the phone, imagine how tough that would be!). I don’t know, I guess Swingers just didn’t do it for me and I about went crazy hearing my roomates all of last year ask me who the big winner was every day if you know what I mean.
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by GoldenNugget on Jul 30, 2010 11:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Forgot to mention that I like to rebound like Erick Dampier ... meaning I love the volleyball tap to teammates.
Not being the tallest guy under the hoop got me to start leaping and poking the ball to my teammates, works sometimes and other times it doesn’t do what you want. Damp seemed to make a career out of it in Dallas.
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When you're 7 feet tall you don't volley/tap
You pull the damn ball down. Props to Nate for being creative. Fail to Damp for being lazy.
FIGJAM Bitches!
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by Joelsopinion on Jul 30, 2010 4:50 PM MDT up reply actions
I try to make my game like Chauncey.
i am a very small dude, so of course im a point guard. i like to think of myself of a sort of floor general and real leader. If my teams needs to score, ill try score. If one of my teammates is on, i try give him the ball.
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"Every morning we wake up we got two options, you get better or you get worse. What you gonna do today?" - Steve Hess
I'm JR all the way baby
Have tons of potentiol in school and sports yet i get lazy stupid and cocky and tend to fuck things up in every category. Luckily I have one more chance up at CSU to redeem myself in which i will just like I expect JR to do this year with the Nuggets. We are in teh same situation. He is in a contract year, I’m on academic probation with one shot to get off.. we both lookin to get paid and we are both gonna do it (at least I will =) haha) I’m 20 by the way.
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
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thanks man
=)
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by Garrett Olsen on Jul 31, 2010 1:52 AM MDT up reply actions
You on the CSU bball team?
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by GoldenNugget on Jul 30, 2010 11:10 PM MDT up reply actions
No dude
I’m a tad under 6 foot so i was never big enough. I play on the competative leagues they have and play a lot of pick up at the gyms but thats it. I was a travel hockey player and could have played for CSU’s team but messed that up a bit
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
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by Garrett Olsen on Jul 31, 2010 1:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Back in the day I was Barkley, had an incredible power move on the baseline
Now I’m closer to Wes Unseld.
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
Though to my credit both were MVPs!!!
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
Well Seeing as I am a young gun
I would say I am a mix of Andre Miller with the ball, Rip Hamilton without the ball, and JJ Barea on defense.
i am the jimmy piersall of basketball
as a player i am fundamentally sound. as a person i am totally nuts. i used to work for arizona state univeresity. they hold a 3 on 3 basketball tournament to raise money for the fiesta bowl. my team played in the six foot and under division. our team did not have any jerseys. every team is allowed 4 players on each team. (one substitute for each team) we decided we would play without shirts. the name of our team? the 4 skins.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
Nice! Shoutout to Harrington babay!
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by GoldenNugget on Jul 30, 2010 11:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Nobody is at the gym because nobody lives in Wyoming
I would say I am a PF/C in most games I play at 6’5". I’m about 215, not built but solid. My favorite spot is just outside the low post where I can back smaller people down for easy layups.
I also block a lot of shots. Hence the picture and my name.
Swats.
haha there's about 70,000 people in Casper...but I get your point!
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 31, 2010 9:12 PM MDT up reply actions
if you want to play some basketball go to glenrock
check out the family of jim and peggy marshall. peggy is full blooded navajo from tuba city, arizona. her husband jim is half lakota and half german. they have 2 kids. the oldest is thier son kevin ‘chiefy’ marshall. he was a great all around athlete, played for glenrock high school and is a few years younger then you. his younger sister jenny is the best player in the family. she played at kelly walsh high school and graduated around 2008. the last i heard about kevin is he was working at sears at the mall in the appliance department. glen rock has an outside park with adjustable glass (6′×4′) backboards. by adjustable i mean you can raise or lower the height of the basket. slam dunks for everybody. did you get out to alcova yet? did they have the natrona county fair yet? did you see the 4th of july fireworks at the events center? catch any country and western concerts? did you but a cowboy hat? what part of town do you live in?
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
drive down to fo co
and play in some of our outdoor pick up games nate… if you wanna run with 20 year olds who play damn near every day =)
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
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by Garrett Olsen on Aug 1, 2010 12:44 AM MDT up reply actions
A day Late and a dollar short but eh....
A little late on responding to this, but I just read it so….
What player would I be…hmm I would be the George Karl type
I don’t look good in a jersey but will wear one anyways and my game consist of me sitting on the side lines hollering at players. This is due to an Injury a few years ago.
The few years ago me was a mix between John Stockton and J.R. Smith. In Stockton I was stealing machine, you came around me I was going to get a hand on that ball. I was also able to pull passes out of my * you know what* but on Offense I Lived and Died by the Three ala J.R. When I was on I would kill your team and when I was off I would kill my team.

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