The Official Bring Back Dahntay's Inferno Page
by the word on Jul 31, 2010 8:59 PM MDT
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PrintOne item overlooked about the end of season and playoff failings of the 2009/10 Nuggets was the lack of Dahntay Jones on the roster.
During the 2009 playoffs Dahntay was a very valued defensive presence on the court; someone who could be thrown at CP3, Josh Howard and Kobe and deliver tenacious D, chaos just this side of dirty, and the ability to get the player he covered out of their game.
During the 2009 offseason the Nugs tried to re-sign him; but Dahntay received a more lucrative 4year $11m contract from Indiana. The Nugs later traded for Aaron Afflalo who proved to be a valued member of the team and rotation.
After a full season with the Nugs & Dahntay's belt I think both sides learned a valuable lesson: 1. Dahntay learned he's not the starting big minute player who can develop offense; and 2. Though AAA is a very good stand-up defender, AAA is not a disrupting influence on defense. The Nugs never re-gained that game turning tenacious defender who could totally mess up the head of the person he's covering. In short, the Nugs lost their economy version of Bruce Bowen; their smaller Tru Warior.
In hindsight, Dahntay's contract isn't that big. In 2010 he'll earn $2.5m, in 2011 it'll be $2.7m, in 2012 it'll be $2.9m. Compared to other contracts; especially in relation to some of the players suggested by posters to sign, Dahntay's salary is very reasonable. And, Indiana fell out of favor with Dahntay; they thought Dahntay would be more of a player than he is. He's not; he's a greatly athletic defensive stopper who can mess with the head of the player he's covering.
The Nugs greatly need more legit bigs; but the Nugs also need a defensive stopper at the wing; someone who's OK with limited minutes, will understand his role and will not only defend but will disrupt the opposition.
Bring Dahntay back. The trade would be cheap and it's already proven he's a valuable player in Karl's rotation and will wreck havoc against the Durant's, Kobe's and others... in short he's the kind of player other teams are acquiring in order to stop Melo.
Bring Dahntay home; bring the inferno back to the Pepsi Center.
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wish we could he performed gd
yea tru he is a great defensive player imagine him and aaa haha that would be great
Hahaha... and there goes another big... for a guard.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 28, 2010 5:20 PM MDT up reply actions
When Dahntay signed his Pacer contract I felt at that time "oh well he got a better offer"
But the money just isn’t that huge. The Nugs could either continue to recycle players with the veteran minimum hoping they find another Dahntay or just bring back Dahntay at $2.5m.
And you’re right, when the Nugs need to shut down the other team, Dahntay and AAA together would be a strong defensive presence; especially playing small ball.
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i wonder
can we trade ac and sheldon for dahntay or is he a free agent?
Dahntay has 3more years but all for low money
With the 125% +/- $250k you could almost make the deal with Kid Karl and Butch (it’s about $170k off).
Like last year I suspect AC got a no trade kicker in his contract. Can’t blame him; he’s ok with earning the veteran minimum, he just doesn’t want to be a trade pawn.
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Dahntay had a disappointing season with the Pacers.
Just saying.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 28, 2010 12:53 AM MDT reply actions
You're right, Dahntay did have a bad season, but not for the reasons why the Nugs need him
The Pacers thought they could get more of a complete guard out of Dahntay so when they needed him to do more he couldn’t deliver. I believe that’s why Dahntay was a washout when the Nugs picked him up.
In Denver, Karl knows exactly what he wants and can get out of Dahntay. Hopefully Dahntay learned a lesson too from last year. He’s not a complete guard, that’s not where his skills are. But he can have a very long NBA career as a defensive specialist.
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How?
He set career highs in nearly every statistical catagory. I remember for a while at the beginning of the season he was averaging close to 18 ppg.
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by GoldenNugget on Jul 28, 2010 10:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Check the Pacers blog, if you want, because I did.
He played well early on, but couldn’t keep it up, eventually spending some time in the coach’s doghouse. His minutes (and production) were not consistent in the latter half of the season… he just couldn’t handle the pressure of continuing his momentum.
Also, and I know how funny it sounds, his defense was also disappointing. I know. But it’s true.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 28, 2010 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Sounds to me like expectations were too high.
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by GoldenNugget on Jul 29, 2010 11:37 PM MDT up reply actions
Exactly
They asked too much of a guy who was just a role player picked off the scrap heap by his last team.
by Artimus Mangilord on Jul 30, 2010 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions
They were expecting Bowen.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions
All for it!
Just wish we could get him while simultaneously ridding ourselves of AC somehow.
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by manbearpig5000000 on Jul 28, 2010 2:09 AM MDT reply actions
I was torn on Dahntay leaving.
I loved the defense he played while he was on our team but I dont like how Kobe (really everybody) didnt even guard him on offense. Kobe just roamed around the court kinda like he did to rondo in the finals and DJ is no rondo! That made things worse for Melo!
I wish he was more Bruce Bowen like…then at least we get a corner 3 outta him.
Dahntay's still young enough to develop into that player... if he understands that role
Even Bowen took a long time to become the Bowen we saw with the Spurs. You have to understand what your role & potential is and then embrace it.
That really is the difference between Bowen and the scores of DLeaguers out there; all greatly athletic SF/SG sized players; but some “get it” like Bowen (and hopefully Dahntay) and others just don’t “get it” (all the almost good enough DLeaguers who think they can shoot their way into the NBA).
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Um, we still have 2 young players on our team that we're waiting to develope into something better
Nene, JR, and Dahntay are exactly who they are and who they will be for a long time to come. BB players don’t really reinvent themselves. Their skill sets are aet and that’s that.
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by Joelsopinion on Jul 28, 2010 11:43 AM MDT up reply actions
Skill sets are *set*
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by Joelsopinion on Jul 28, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions
We already do...
I wish he was more Bruce Bowen like…then at least we get a corner 3 outta him.
His name is Afflalo.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 28, 2010 5:21 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm sure Indiana would love both Butch and Karl (and surely Andrew agrees with me)
just the rotation might get a little tricky if we get him
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Dahntay Jones: nice player, never coming back.
With Ty Lawson needing more minutes, Afflalo needing more minutes and J.R. Smith getting his 25-30 minutes – oh and Billups getting his 20-30 minutes there just isn’t room for Jones. You’re not going to find an NBA team with a 5 guard rotation and the Nuggets are surely not going to do it.
Afflalo and J.R. can handle any guards in the league as far as I’m concerned and even Lawson proved to be a thron in Deron Williams’ side at times. Although the Nuggets got taken apart by Williams in that Utah series, bringing back Jones doesn’t do anything for me.
As Afflalo’s reputation grows in the NBA he’ll be given more defensive freedom and turn into more of that lockdown defender. Plus Afflalo, Smith and Lawson give Denver all-around players. Jones could rebound a little bit, would throw down a nasty dunk from time-to-time, but his shooting is just…awful.
Jones turns 30 years-old in December and is probably at the apex of his career (just like Al Harrington) or might even be starting to slip.
I’ll take Afflalo and his 108-249 from downtown (43.4%) over Jones’ 4-32 (12%) from deep last season. Jones was a nice player and key part to Denver’s Western Conference run, but the soon to be 25 year-old (October) Afflalo is clearly an upgrade.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 28, 2010 9:04 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
thron = thorn.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 28, 2010 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Seems like he should be younger right? Spent some time in D-League and was drafted back in 2003 (1st Rnd 20th overall by Boston) … didn’t know he was traded with Troy Bell on draft night for Kendrick Perkins and Marcus Banks to the Grizzlies … interesting.
He did spend time at Rutgers and transferred to Duke … long college career.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 28, 2010 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions
The Nugs originally got him off the junk heap
He had done the rounds, mostly played himself out of the league when the Nugs picked him up and he turned into a D-specialist and could’ve had a long run with the Nugs. Bowen was what about 73 when finally retired?
That was Dahntay’s mistake, he should have known better, but he chased fame & glory with Indy.
What’s with the AAA over Dahntay talk? I wrote I’d have both. AAA is a very good stand-up defender; but Dahntay has already shown with Nugs his defensive style could turn the tide of games. In the playoffs they threw him on CP3, Josh Howard & Kobe and annoyed the hell out of all of them.
I like Graham’s game; but he’s not proven he’ll be a rotation contributor for Karl; Dahntay has already proven he brings something specific that Karl wants. And at $2.5m I’ll take that over Graham (who as I just wrote is a player I do like).
Good debate going on… fun to see that!
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Josh Howard played about 15 minutes of that series
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Dahntay had to take the job security that the Pacers offered. I would have taken Indy’s offer 10/10 times, I don’t blame him for that. But I do agree from a game standpoint, yes he should have stayed in Denver for competitive purposes. Whatever …
As far as the AAA vs Dahntay talk … unless Denver scraps J.R. Smith I don’t think their current guard situation would work with 5 guys. I do see that you say Jones could perhaps take Graham’s spot, but I wouldn’t want to play that much small ball. Would you want the second unit to be: Lawson, Jones, Smith, Bird and say Shelden Williams? I don’t know…not the worst lineup because Lawson and Smith could carry the offensive load.
I guess for me I would rather have a guy that could play small forward and power forward like Graham or Amundson than Jones. And I also think Afflalo is really going to need more minutes along with Lawson and J.R. needs his minutes too so I think Denver’s guard situation is set.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 29, 2010 11:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Agreed 100%
Loved Tay while he was here but I certainly am not going to beg for his return. Afflalo’s defense is just as good, and he does it without the trash talking, plus like you said he’s just an all around better player and upgrade. I do miss the dunks though.
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by GoldenNugget on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions
Exactly...
I think Afflalo is light years ahead of Jones… I did love DJ’s swagger and amazing dunks/blocks… but he also was completely incompetent on offense (besides fast breaks)… I guess I like Jones on bigger players like LeBron, but I prefer AAA on Kobe/ Wade… but I did think he was prob the best teammate on the team, like a cheer leader on the bench lol… he also did AMAZING work on CP3… we don’t win the NO series that easily without DJ
I would like him back on the team, but not a necessity… he’d be more like a joey graham replacement…
It was almost like his purpose in life was to defend CP3 in that series.
He was amazing!
Also, didn’t he get injured for a bit last season as well, which contributed to his numbers decline.
Jones missed 6 games last season ... none in a row.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 29, 2010 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions
Had some DNP-CDs.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions
I disagree Nate
I think Jones is much more what the Nugs need. Afflalo is a nice story but the Nugs need a tenacious somewhat dirty defender. They missed Jones sorely last year as the Nugs can get their scoring from anywhere. They don’t need their defensive stopper to be a shooter.
So you’d rather have Jones than Afflalo and play 4 on 5 on the Nuggs offensive end? Or you would want both and try to use a 5 guard rotation? Break it down for me on how it’d work …
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 28, 2010 2:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Über-small ball is takin' its talents to Denver!
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 28, 2010 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions
I would go back to the 2008-9 rotation at guard but with Lawson replacing AC
Seems like a huge upgrade and I think Afflalo’s d is way overrated. He couldn’t hold DWill’s jock in the playoffs and Jones dominated an extremely similar player in C3P0 in 09. Afflalo is a hoop hero on this blog so hardly anyone will agree but I think they will all be wrong and looking at the wrong things. Nugs added another scorer in Harrington this offseason and the last thing they need is all their big scorers having to share shots with Afflalo. Jones would play the beginning of the 1st and 3rd quarters and be used as an offense/defense rotation guy at the end of close games just like 08-09. NBA is about winning and the Nugs did it better with Jones than they did Afflalo.
we should consider it
I’m all for bringing him back aaa and jones we would be even better and sign a decent big man hell lakers have barnes and artest.
by calicowboyz on Jul 29, 2010 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions
"the last thing they need is all their big scorers having to share shots with Afflalo"
I don’t get this statement. Afflalo is very accepting of his role, and the scorers would definitely score more with Afflalo than with Dahntay. No?
Also, one good playoff performance vs one bad playoff performance doesn’t sell me on it.
Also, I don’t agree with the implication that Dahntay vs. Afflalo is the difference between going to the WCF in 2009 and losing in the first round in 2010.
I must be looking at the wrong things.
Would you rather pick up Dahntay or a defensive center?
If I had to pick betweek Jones or a defensive center I would take a defensive center for sure
But if I had it my way I would send Baby Karl and Afflalo to the Pacers for Jones if they would accept.
And pick up another big
Williams may be that defensive big we all want though. He has been known as a good defender but hasn’t really shown much in the league so far. He may just suprise everyone this year.
Also, I don’t agree with the implication that Dahntay vs. Afflalo is the difference between going to the WCF in 2009 and losing in the first round in 2010.
Yes, that is quite odd.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 9:12 AM MDT up reply actions
I don’t think Williams and Paul are very similar players at all and I also don’t think that one player getting hot should dictate blowing up the Nuggets guard rotation heading forward. Jones picked up fouls in a hurry and DWill would have done the same things to him that he did to all the other Nuggets guards, just my opinion and obviously we’ll disagree.
I like the Billups/Lawson and Afflalo/Smith rotation at guard and don’t want to see it disrupted as all four guys need their minutes.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 30, 2010 8:14 AM MDT up reply actions
This.
Thanks for bringing in some more logic. I’ve been running out of mine.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 28, 2010 5:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Indy would prob dump him for a TPE...
idk y Denver would want him back, unless if we trade Afflalo (plz no) I don’t think we need him
Use the hammer
Frankly, I think it makes a lot more sense to try to keep graham and actually PLAY him in the D-centric 2 spot. He is a significantly better offensive player than Jones, with the energry, size and physicality to piss off anybody. Only obvious hole in this strategy is that guarding the quicker PG doesnt make sense. But thats what you have Ty for.
I’d like to see Graham brought back as well … to back up Melo and Harrington. I also like to refer to him on Stiffs as The Bulldozer.
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 28, 2010 2:04 PM MDT up reply actions
He's only the Bulldozer if he comes back
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by Mini Hulk on Jul 28, 2010 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Plows his way through Pepsi Center's parking lot?
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by Nate Timmons on Jul 28, 2010 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions
I was disappointed to lose Dahntay at the time
But after watching a season of AAA, I don’t miss Dahntay at all.
I realize this thread was not meant as a comparison between AAA and Dahntay, but I do want to say that there’s no comparing these two. On a purely defensive level, I value AAA’s defensive skill significantly more than Dahntay’s “disruptive” physicality.
I valued Dahntay’s contribution as a Nugget, but he really wasn’t a defensive stopper so much as an athletic guy who put a lot of effort towards defense. He gave particular guys fits, but really only certain players, and not enough to trade for him.
Save that roster spot for someone else. Joey G or bigger (Mbenga?).
If Jones comes back, when does he play? Whose minutes does he take?
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 28, 2010 5:20 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
He takes Graham's minutes but with more consistency
AAA ultimately may not be a long term starting SG but he’s earned his role on the Nugs.
Dahntay would be in addition, likely spelling Melo while JR is on the floor to offset JR’s defensive inabilities. Melo & AAA on the floor then the reserves come in with JR & Dahntay; those are good offense/defense combos, and it costs very little with Dahntay making $2.5m with consistent minutes on the Nugs (which Karl would give to Jones).
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And you're complaining about a lack of size?
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions
...on the Nuggets.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions
no to Dr. Jones
He’s afraid of snakes….
by InboundingLobPass on Jul 28, 2010 5:48 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Please, he handled the mamba as good as anyone not named Artest.
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by Joelsopinion on Jul 29, 2010 8:57 AM MDT up reply actions
Nate already said everything i would fo rwhh I prefer AAA to Dahntay
And like others have pointed out (nate included) The Nuggets are already set in the back court. Joey Graham offers us everything Dahntay could, but has the added bulk to take on the bigger players
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No thanks
I’ll consider it maybe after Denver gets a freakin Center. Until then the guard position does not need tinkerd with
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Fair comment, though you were the one who didn't want Harrington!
Ha just checking to see if you were awake…
How is the world of Ft. Fun (going old school on ya).
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if you want to go REALLY old school
has anyone on here ever been to Fort Ram?
its been gone for over a decade so… prolly not I’m guessing.
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Must be old!
I don’t remember it and I’ve been a foco resident for 7 years now (minus time spent abroad)
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I have been there
Remember when they changed it to The Matrix? I was able to drink at that time so I enjoyed the Matrix more than Fort Ram which I went to as a kid for a few things.
6 in one....half dozen the other
The only thing that Tay brought that AAA doesn’t is dirty/nasty that earned us the “Thuggets” name two seasons ago. I’m ok with either….but AAA isn’t a dirty/nasty player. So if you prefer that style of D over what AAA does then I think it’s a wash. It all depends on how you value intimidation.
I do agree, however, that all the Nuggets guards got pwned in the Utah series. Not sure Tay would have made a difference the way things went
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Honestly Utah's guards did pwn the nuggets
But it was really cheap. In my book Dwill is dirtier than Dahntay. Between Wes Matthews, DWill and CJ Miles, we were subject to a Flop AT LEAST once every possession, offensive or defensive. If not for the flopping and questionable calls the nuggets would have won that series. David Stearn was scared the limping nuggets would challenge the Lakers.
Got to stop blaming David Stern
Blame Jerry Sloan. He’s the one who coaches the team.
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I came across this article
It was written right after we picked up Afflalo last offseason:
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/blog.php?b=342
I agree with just about everything in this article, and I am pretty sure Afflalo exceeded the expectations people had when this article was written, while Dahntay did not.
I really do like Dahntay, but it’s because he turned raw athleticism into a servicable asset, and he had a great attitude. I do think he can be a great role player on any team, but I’m done comparing him to Afflalo.
Agree, comparing is not fair to either, one is a defensive specialist (Jones) and the other is more of an all around SG (AAA)
The jury is still out whether either is ultimately a starting SG; but both have proven to be valuable rotation players.
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def agree with that article
i like jones in that he provides a k-mart-like toughness defensively which is always nice. however his defensive skills were a bit overblown. he tended to foul A LOT and in poor situations whereas AAA may play a little softer but also plays smarter. AAA’s ability to nail an open 3 with a high % is also critical for our offense. Without that Melo ends up getting triple and quadruple teamed when he drives. I’d like to see AAA develop his mid-range game more and his ability to create his own shot. I think AAA has room for improvement definitely.
I think the better comparison is to Joey Graham. They are similar players in my eye.
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