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2009-10 Exit Interview: Kenyon Martin

Kmart_mediumThe heart-and-soul of the Nuggets defense and the man who can bring down the house with a thunderous dunk might not be on the roster for the entire 2010-11 season. It's time to look at the season that was and what lies ahead for Kenyon Martin.

Star-divide

 

 

 

 

Kenyon Martin:
6'9’’ 240 lbs.
Turns 33-years-old Dec. 30th, 2011

 

Experience: The 2010-11 season will be Martin's 11th in the NBA.

Contract status: Martin is in the last year of his deal that pays him roughly $16.5 million this season and is a player option season.

 

Overview of 2009-10 season: If you followed the Nuggets last season then you know Martin's best season as a Nugget was cut short when knee tendinitis derailed and cut short his season. Martin turned in 23 double-doubles in 58 regular season games and went on a stretch from 12/25 through 2/21 where he turned in 19 double-doubles in 25 games. Martin was winning games for the Nuggets almost by himself as the team was battling injuries. With leg problems dating back from his days at Cincinnati, Martin has had trouble staying healthy and playing above his career high in minutes this season (see below) certainly didn't help. When Martin was on the floor, he was looking better than ever ... but again there is that "staying on the floor" issue that has plagued K-Mart throughout his career as he's never played all 82 games in a single season. And now we are getting news that he is undergoing surgery once again. (thank you to hvino for the link)

 

2009-10 stats:

K-Mart played in just 58 regular season games last year and all six playoff games. 

Minutes: 34.2 (32.7 career)

Shooting:
FG:
45.6% (48.1% career)
3-pt: 27.6% (23.6%)
FT: 55.7% (64.1%)
Free Throw attempts per game: 2.9 (3.6)

Steals: 1.2 per game (1.3)

Blocks: 1.10 (1.2)

Assists: 1.9 per game (2.1)

Rebounds: 9.4 per game (7.3)
Offensive boards: 2.5 (1.9)
Defensive boards: 7.0 (5.5)

Scoring: 11.5 ppg (13.9)

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Does anything fire up the crowd more than a K-Mart dunk?

 

Positives / What he brings: Would anyone feel comfortable telling Martin to his face that the Nuggets will look to trade him before or during the upcoming season? I wouldn't. The guy is tough as nails or at least he looks that way and gives off that persona everytime he steps onto the floor. If the Nuggets had more defenders with K-Mart's attitude, I'm not sure the Nuggets would ever give up more than 90 points in a game. Something a little new we saw this season was Martin's ability to rebound in bunches. K-Mart entered the season talking about how good he felt and when he tied a career mark for rebounds in a season (9.4 in 2003-04 with New Jersey) we finally saw the player that Denver paid so much to acquire. K-Mart gives Denver their tough attitude and he provides the team with athleticism that is rare for a player of his height. When he's on the floor, he's a force for the Nuggets.

 

Negatives / What needs to improve: Martin is a veteran and a what-you-see-is-what-you-get guy. His jump shooting will forever put a scare in me as soon as the ball leaves his hand. When he goes to the foul line I always hope the first one goes in because I'm not so sure the second one has much of a chance. For such an athletic guy, Martin has a very herky-jerky style when he drives to the rim and often leaves himself shots at awkward angles. Always the tough guy, Martin will take fouls at inopportune times and might even get a technical when your team needs anything but at the time. Any why he's not fined by the team whenever he decides to let a thee-pointer fly is beyond me. Sort of a long list of dirty laundry for a guy making max money. If Martin was making $6 million to $10 million per season he'd be in the right salary bracket, but Denver decided to overpay for his services and the contract has haunted the fanbase and probably the front office ever since. At the time of his trade to the team, K-Mart looked like the piece that could put Denver right in the championship hunt, but it really wasn't the deal Denver needed (at least for the money). The organization put all their chips in the middle of the table with the K-Mart deal and this season the team might look to finally shed the contract, but it could come at the expense of a very important player.

  

Outlook for 2009-10 season:  If Martin made a little less money and stayed on the court a little more, he'd be perfect. This isn't a perfect world and the front office has a tough decision to make. The team can roll the dice with Martin once again and at the end of the season they can either re-sign him to a deal more realistic for a player his age or they can let him walk and clear $16.5 million off the books (and maybe do a sign-and-trade with Martin). The other option is to trade K-Mart this season and bring in a player or players totaling $16.5 million or more (if they put together a multi-player deal).

Can the Nuggets afford to roll the dice with Martin once again? If Martin leaves we all know the Nuggets will have a major hole to fill with his defensive presence and his ability around the glass on both the offensive and defensive ends of the floor. Martin is and has always been one of my favorite players since his days as a Bearcat. It would kill me to see him go, but I also understand that the franchise has many tough decisions to make moving forward. If the Nuggets could keep Kenyon and add payroll they'd be way into the luxury tax this season and it might be worth it. But really the only way the team can add an impact player to the roster is to trade K-Mart.

 


 

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THE question...

is how do the Nuggs transform Kmart’s dreadful contract into an impact player/draft picks /cap relief?
This in my mind is the only difficult question to consider, since other matters seem clearer (re-sign Melo, Yes; trade JR, Yes, etc). To get the most out of Martin’s 16.5m (!) expiring deal, a few planets need to align: a team looking to move a good player /players under multi-year contract in exchange for 2011 cap space .
Kind of a tall order, but if he recovers well from this relatively minor surgery, Kmart can make a real contribution before going away or becoming much cheaper. So someone could nibble – but who ?
Recall, O Stiffs, that the exchanged salaries must be within 25% of each other. Let’s here some proposed deals !

by slader on Jun 29, 2010 8:17 AM MDT reply actions  

I’m inclined to think the Nuggets should keep K-Mart for the entire season and then we can benefit from the $16m coming off the books. If we trade for matching contract(s), aren’t we really just extending K-Mart’s salary for even more years (just with a different player/players)? It’s been awhile since the Nuggets have had any wiggle room and had a big contract come off the books. I’d hate to see them trade that away for one or two players with extended contracts that some other team is trying to dump on us.

by BrianD on Jun 29, 2010 8:56 AM MDT reply actions   2 recs

Great point and one I think the team is seriously exploring.

I need to look at the numbers and see what Denver would possibly even have under the cap next season (if anything) with K-Mart’s deal expiring.

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by Nate Timmons on Jun 29, 2010 9:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not if they want to compete for a championship

Cap is roughly 56 million this year. say it goes to $60 million next year. If they don’t sign anyone for the Midlevel this year, and dump Billups, KMart, and J.R., they can get down around 47 to 50 million. So then after next season they could sign a 10 million guy and a guy for the midlevel. Has that improved the team? If they use their midlevel this year, then they best they can get is about $5 million under next years cap. The only way to get serious cap room is to dump everyone but melo, afflalo, and Lawson and start over, which I don’t see happening. It could be done, package Nene and bird with the expiring contracts of billups, Kmart, and J.R., but it would mean starting over completely.

The only way to be competitive is to spend over the cap. They have to trade KMart as soon as they can get a good deal for him. They should look seriously at trading smith. If they get a fantastic offer for billups either this year or next, they have to look at that seriously also.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 29, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

The only thing I’d hate to see is Denver trade in Kenyon’s deal for more of the same aka getting back a bad contract. Will take some serious work from the front office to find the right deal.

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by Nate Timmons on Jun 29, 2010 10:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

They should at least swap expirings, or get multiple assets/players that can help now

Nuggets have never had a good power forward since K-Mart got here. While Chauncey can still play and Melo is still here Denver needs to put championship pieces on the roster to push the team up to that level. $16.5 million for K-Mart is so stupid you can’t win a championship like that unless you are Mark Cuban and money is no object. With Kenyon’s latest surgery expecting him to start last a whole season and make a playoff run is just not happening.

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by runningdonut on Jun 29, 2010 10:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Keeping Kenyon doesn't help the Nuggets in terms of cap space

Assuming they extend Melo, Nene doesn’t opt out, and we don’t cut Chauncey – Nuggets will have over $50 million committed next year for half a roster. That’s like $10 million in cap space, not really enough to get an all star free agent especially when the Nuggets will need to sign like 8 more players. After this current iteration of the Nuggets runs it’s course the Nuggets should start over and build through the draft.

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by runningdonut on Jun 29, 2010 10:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think the Nuggets will tear up Billups’ deal and probably sign him to an extension for less money. But that’s another convo …

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by Nate Timmons on Jun 29, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

I agree

As I said in a previous post we could let Kmart and JR run out and reconstruct Chauncey to a cheaper contract and be left with plenty enough cap space to become the top team in the west and in just 2 years. I dont think we will be able to get much for Kmart this year anyway. Unless we can get a good player/ pick and/or other team buyout Kmarts contract I would rather benefit from the cap space as there are decent FAs next year we could get. Especially over taking on Biedrins who is far worse in terms of talent Injuries and contract than Kmart is right now

by Nz Nuggets on Jun 30, 2010 2:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

Has Kenyon already played his last game as a Nugget?

I hate to be realistic on this matter, but I feel Kenyon has already played his last game as a Denver Nugget. Now that he’s had surgery and may not be back until December, that expiring contract of $16.5 million on the books would be trade bate for a team looking to free up cap space at season’s end. Potentially, the Nuggets could trade him to a team who would buy his contract out and then he would re-sign with Denver after he was waived much like Antonio McDyess did in the Billups trade two years ago.

I think the Nuggets could get some decent players for Kenyon’s contract. I agree with you Nate, I love Kenyon’s game too. I stuck up for the guy his first couple of years here when so many people criticized him for not playing hard and not playing injured. He was definitely overpaid, but he was a valuable asset to this team the last few years.

by jmdeshazer on Jun 29, 2010 9:06 AM MDT reply actions   2 recs

He's played his last effective game

No way he’s anywhere near 100% next season at any point. I’m hoping they can package him for a couple of players after free agency. His value as a player is essentially zero at this point. His value is as a salary dump for some team. I just hope it’s not as a salary dump for Denver, because that will signal the team isn’t going to spend enough to be competitive.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 29, 2010 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think you hit the nail on the head when you said Kenyon would be a great player to have at $6-10 million per. Your fandom may be leading you to give too much credit when you say he seemed like he was the guy who was going to make us a contender. On the contrary, it always seemed to me that dedicating max money to Martin firmly established a ceiling one tier below a real championship team. Moreover, I’ve always felt that the ridiculous contract has always caused Martin to put pressure on himself to play outside of his game. Under no circumstances should K-Mart be hoisting the number of 20-footers he does. I firmly believe that a player with his skill set should be shooting in the area of 55% field goals. It’s unfortunate, because a guy who should be thought of as a valuable piece on a very good team is always going to remembered for his albatross of a contract. As a Denver fan, it’s nigh impossible for me to think about what we could have done with an $8 million K-Mart and another $8 million puzzle piece on this roster.

by Fence on Jun 29, 2010 9:17 AM MDT reply actions   2 recs

Love this post.

Solid points and I agree with everything you say. When Denver acquired Kenyon they really needed an impact guy and somebody that could compete with Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan … I was pretty sure Kenyon could compete with those guys when he was brought in and thought he rounded out our roster nicely. The money didn’t really hit me b/c I was also convinced our owner was going to do all he could to bring a championship here. I figured our roster would keep improving when K-Mart was signed … it’s been mixed since then.

Like the Rockies with Mike Hampton and Denny Neagle I wonder if K-Mart’s deal scared our owner a bit from committing so much money to players?

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by Nate Timmons on Jun 29, 2010 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

That's a good analogy to the Rox

but I think Kenyon has played (over the last three years) better than Hampton or Neagle ever did under their deals. Plus Kenyon has never been caught with a hooker….cough cough.

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by jpage78 on Jun 29, 2010 11:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

True K-Mart has done much more, but still … the moves after that deal have been pretty safe and even the Iverson deal had a bailout move if needed b/c of his star power.

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by Nate Timmons on Jun 29, 2010 12:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

In fairness to the Rox

Their commitment to not going after high priced free agents and developing their own players has worked out pretty well. Ubaldo Jimenez, Troy Tulowitzki, Clint Barmes, Brad Hawpe, Dexter Fowler, Ian Stewart, Eric Young Jr., Jhoulys Chacin, Manny Corpas etc etc etc. Problem of course is the Nuggets never aeem to keep any of their draft picks, but I think OKC has shown you can build a team through the draft.

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by Zachm219 on Jun 29, 2010 4:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Trading K-Mart away would make sense

But only if we can get a big who plays just as hard. I don’t want to see some crappy man-on-man defender on the team who couldn’t get a rebound to save his life. Trading Martin away isn’t as easy as it sounds.
Sure, it’s easy to trade him for anybody, but if we’re looking to improve, it’s tougher then it sounds.

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by Mini Hulk on Jun 29, 2010 9:40 AM MDT reply actions  

+1

if we cant find anything legit, let him come off the books and think about not exercising cb1’s option. i think that would give us some cap space to sign someone we want in the offseason (though im not sure with all the cba/lockout stuff pending.)

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by 808inDenver on Jun 29, 2010 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'd tell him he's gone

while he’s still on crutches. After he’s healthy and running again, no way.

There is no question KMart is gone. The only question is when. If the team is serious about winning a championship, they move him between now and the deadline. If they just let his contract expire, they won’t compete for a championship, they’ll just be a small market team saving money.

I think it’s safe to say Kmarts days as an effective player are over. Which sucks because of how well he was finally playing last year. Whoever signs Kmart to his next contract is making a mistake and he’ll look like Chris Webber at the end of his career.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 29, 2010 9:50 AM MDT reply actions  

It's over

After 6 years maybe the Nuggets will finally learn to prepare as if Kenyon will never carry the load he’s being paid for. It’s time to get another power forward and move on. The injuries and the contract that really hurts the team was not his fault. The guy has a lot of heart and gave all he could but it’s over, Kenyon will not help Denver anymore. The Nuggets are fooling themselves and going nowhere trying to build this team with Kenyon Martin as a cornerstone piece.

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by runningdonut on Jun 29, 2010 9:58 AM MDT reply actions  

I say trade KMart b/c we can't have someone who is so crucial to this team, not on the court for like half the season...

seriously, cut the ties… we had a good run, but sadly, Kenyon’s injuries plagued his tenure here in Denver… don’t just trade him for the sake of getting rid of him… but try to get some players who can actually play during the season

by hvino on Jun 29, 2010 10:00 AM MDT reply actions  

i really hope the cavs owner will blow it up

at least then we could send kmart for jamison and hickson. hell, ill even take on boobie gibson, if we get jamison and hickson.

highly unlikely tho.

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by 808inDenver on Jun 29, 2010 10:19 AM MDT reply actions  

I don't like Jamison at all

Hickson is interesting, but Jamison will screw up our team just like he screwed up the Cavs. He can’t rebound, he can’t defend, and he can’t score at an efficient mark

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by LACK on Jun 29, 2010 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

well, we really need frontcourt help

and we really dont have much options. i think hed fit in a little better offensively in denver than in cleveland.

but youre right, his D is terrible. gasol, jefferson/love, randolph, duncan, milsap would eat him up.

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by 808inDenver on Jun 29, 2010 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Jamison does nothing very well

but does a lot of things well. I don’t really think you have anything to back up the idea that he “screwed up the cavs”. If we could get Jamison and Hickson for Kenyon I would jump for joy. Never going to happen.

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by Zachm219 on Jun 29, 2010 4:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

His future

The guy built his game on athleticism and defense. As guys get older and the injuries pile up those are usually 2 of the first things to fade. He could still be a Grant Hill type contributor because of how fundamentally sound he is on defense. But I don’t think he is smart enough or savvy enough on offense to be a guy you can lean on as one of the best players on your team. I don;t think Kenyon would play off the bench and I could see him retiring if he’s not able to bounce back next year

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by runningdonut on Jun 29, 2010 10:51 AM MDT reply actions  

WAIT! We don't want to trade Kenyon!

He’s getting surgery and will be having more platlet therapy etc. I’m sure he’ll be even better next year. Let’s do whatever KMart asks and maybe after next season we can sign him to another fat contract (just to make sure he ends his career in Denver)…. yeah

by InboundingLobPass on Jun 29, 2010 11:41 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

Trade!

I hope they start over now. Offer melo an extension and trade nene, birdman, kmart and JR for a sack of bats.

by MMGraves on Jun 29, 2010 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

You left out Balkman and Billups

Then they would have only about 19-20 million committed to next year. Then they could sign Wade and Lebron, and fill out the roster with minimum salary guys. oh wait, that’s miami’s plan.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 29, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

YES!

And sign Adrian Dantley to a 12 year, $98 million contract extension!

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by LACK on Jun 29, 2010 2:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

wizards acquire Yi JianLian

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5340026

damn we probably could have gotten him for a TPE.

The New Jersey Nets will trade Yi Jianlian and $3 million to the Washington Wizards for Quinton Ross and the Wizards’ trade exception, league sources said.

The deal will be completed on Tuesday, the sources said.

The move will allow the Nets to clear another $3 million in cap space to spend on free agency this summer.

Yi is scheduled to make $4 million next season. Ross is set to make $1.1 million. The Nets should now have roughly $30 million in cap space to spend after the move, according to sources.

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by 808inDenver on Jun 29, 2010 12:17 PM MDT reply actions  

we do have a TPE still right?

can we just send that to miami for beasley?

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by 808inDenver on Jun 29, 2010 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hunter

The hunter exemption is good until early august. It’s 3.7 million. Interesting that they included a player with the exemption. I’ve read on here that you can’t do that.

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by ThrowItDownBigManThrowItDown on Jun 29, 2010 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

heat just bought out james jones

we should go after beasley! he might be that good, but with kmart out and bird returning from surgery we need a decent big.

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by 808inDenver on Jun 29, 2010 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

That's fine

But Beasley plays more like a small forward despite his size, and he’s this close to getting kicked out of the league for some random drug

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by LACK on Jun 29, 2010 2:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don't want a drug-addict on the team

FUCK DRUGS!!!

Beasley is a bit overrated.

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by Mini Hulk on Jun 29, 2010 2:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

who do you suggest we get?

we really have limited options at this point. and a PF that can start for us while kmart is recovering for $4.9M (technically $10M tho) is decent.

at this point, ill take any decent big man as long as we’re not giving up Melo, Ty, AAA, CB1 and Nene; esp with kmart and bird’s surgery.

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by 808inDenver on Jun 29, 2010 2:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

Says the giant Birdman fan?

I mean come on, its not like Beasley was banned for drug use. He did what? smoke some weed? that won’t even be considered an illegal drug by 2020. Problems:
Beasley is not very good
The Hunter TPE is not big enough to absorb his contract and as far as I know does not apply with the 125% rule
We can not do any sort of deals that can combine that TPE witrh the Butch/ Karl expiring contracts
The only hope we have is trading Balkman, Karl and Butch for Beasley, which would help them trim 2.5 million from the cap.

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by Zachm219 on Jun 29, 2010 4:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

....Still a drug.

But enough of players off-court problems. Gotta focus on what’s important.

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by Mini Hulk on Jun 29, 2010 7:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Says the giant Birdman fan?

who cares? support your favorite player.

something tells me kmart isn’t going anywhere. michael beasley couldn’t help you guys out either.

by lakerlover2by4 on Jun 29, 2010 7:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

No to Beasley

we don’t want another guy with off court issues on this team…he is J.R 2.0, So much talent, he dosn’t even realise, but he is just to immachure to ever live up to it.

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by stan_26 on Jun 29, 2010 5:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

no to beasley...

because you would be helping out Miami! Dont help Miami!

by GottaLoveMelo on Jul 2, 2010 8:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

K-mart

He’s been an up and down ride in Denver. Obviously the low point was the Clippers series and the high point was last season before he got injured. The injuries are getting old. The attitude and poor decisions are completely unacceptable. I don’t see him being a Nugget long but then again I remember his double-double splurge last season and I realize how valuable he can be. There are some decent RFAs next year in the big man department (Noah, Horford, Oden) but will the Nuggets have enough money to throw at one of those guys? Who knows, but probably not. with that said I think the best option is to try and deal K-mart. It won’t be as easy as people think, this knee injury complicates things and the Nuggets will need to find a team in complete cost cutting mode. It is possible and in the interest of team chemistry, which will take a large hit by losing the heart of the team on one of the longest tenured nuggets, if they are to deal K-mart it should be sooner rather than later.

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by Zachm219 on Jun 29, 2010 4:40 PM MDT reply actions  

Can you backload a deal

Say you have 2mil cap space, can you sign someone to a 5yr/50 mil contract that starts at two million. So 2 mil year one, then 48 mil the next four years. Is that possible, or do deals have to grow 10% or something?

by Monkfish on Jun 29, 2010 7:42 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

No, you misread

48 million over the next four years

by Monkfish on Jun 29, 2010 8:40 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I thnk there is a limit to how much you can increase it

but not positive

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by Zachm219 on Jun 29, 2010 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

I suppose I could look it up

but I’m having a glass of wine and watching the Rockies. Tomorrow if I have time I will navigate that labyrinth known as the CBA and see if I can find something.

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by Zachm219 on Jun 29, 2010 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

I remember

when people were calling me crazy when I thought we should trade K-Mart last season.

by higgyhoops12 on Jun 29, 2010 8:41 PM MDT reply actions  

It would have been crazy

His value is far greater this year

by Monkfish on Jun 29, 2010 8:45 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

exactly

No one wanted K-mart last year. No one wanted to take on that contract over the star studded free agency we are about to embark on. ONce it finishes teams will focus on nerxt year and then K-marts expiring deal looks awfully good, especially when you consider that the cba will be renegotiated and most likely will give players less money which means that $16million will go even further

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by Zachm219 on Jun 29, 2010 9:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

can you imagine KMart getting dealt somewhere

And that team wins the championship and then he retires…..

by InboundingLobPass on Jun 29, 2010 9:46 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

considering...

the teams that are going to want K-Mart are the teams that aren’t going to make the playoffs and are in rebuilding mode… I don’t see this happening.

by higgyhoops12 on Jun 29, 2010 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

No

I can’t imagine it.

by MMGraves on Jun 30, 2010 9:13 AM MDT up reply actions  

With the recent news surrounding the Celtics (Rivers most likely retiring, Pierce opting out and potentially leaving, Allen potentially leaving, and PErkins out until at least December)

I wonder if either team would consider a Kevin Garnett for Kenyon Martin trade….
It helps Denver get a low post threat on offense and defense, even if he is just a shell of his former self. But that’s a lot of money to commit to an older big with recent injury problems. For Boston, they could be looking at rebuilding around Rondo with 2011 FAs.

I know Boston has always loved Nene, but I don’t think I’d trade KG for Nene

by hvino on Jun 30, 2010 3:52 AM MDT reply actions  

Garnett would definitely bring in the leadership/defense this team needs

But like Chauncey and Martin, he’s old and injury prone. He was worn out against the Lakers in the Finals this year.

Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.

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by Mini Hulk on Jun 30, 2010 7:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

There is nothing better than a Kmart dunk.

When he throws it down I get hyped like I just dunked.

by GottaLoveMelo on Jul 2, 2010 8:08 AM MDT reply actions  

what?

He dunks in every game he plays in………..

Course if he gets hurt and doesn’t play then….

by InboundingLobPass on Jul 6, 2010 2:34 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

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