How about plan B? (2 year plan)
by Nz Nuggets on Jun 24, 2010 4:15 AM MDT
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This offseason like all the ones before is full of rumors, trade scenarios and excitement for the possibility of the nuggets going all out and making the right moves to make the team champions. Im with all of you in wanting this to happen but what if it doesnt? again.
We as fans seem to want different things as opposed to the owner. We want a Championship in Denver at whatever cost but Stan wants to make money and not pay it.
First of all our salary situation
| Player | 2009-10 | 2010-11 | 2011-12 | 2012-13 | 2013-14 | |
| Kenyon Martin | $15,613,636 | $16,545,455 | ||||
| Carmelo Anthony | $15,070,550 | $16,378,325 | $17,686,100 | |||
| Chauncey Billups | $12,100,000 | $13,150,000 | $14,200,000 | |||
| Nene | $10,520,000 | $11,360,000 | $11,600,000 | |||
| JR Smith | $5,508,426 | $6,031,851 | ||||
| Chris Anderson | $3,650,000 | $3,942,000 | $4,234,000 | $4,526,000 | $3,610,685 | |
| Renaldo Balkman | $2,112,417 | $3,027,094 | ||||
| Ty Lawson | $1,438,680 | $1,546,560 | $1,654,440 | $2,544,528 | $3,610,685 | |
| Anthony Carter | $1,306,455 | |||||
| Malik Allen | $1,300,000 | |||||
| Arron Affalo | $1,086,240 | $1,959,577 | $2,806,053 | |||
| Joey Graham | $884,881 | |||||
| Johan Petro | $884,881 | |||||
| TOTALS | $74,476,166 | $73,940,862 | $52,180,593 | $7,070,528 | $7,221,370 | |
If we dont get something done before this season and watch all other teams in the west get better. again our hopes of the championship will continue to take hits. If this season isnt the one then how about 2012?
We currentley have 22 million in expiring contracts for next season. If we dont end up trading them they could be a good start towards making 2012 the year.
What we need to do:
2011 - resign melo, keep the team the same and advise them that 2012 will be the year. Trade our 2011 pick or something for a 2010 one and draft a player like Hassan whiteside or Craig brackins as a project big and get them trained up for the next year. -Trade Renaldo Balkman to the Charlotte bobcats for Alexis Ajinca
-Trade Birdman at deadline while his value is high for a expiring
-Sign players to 1 year deals again (maybe petro and graham again)
Think of it as a year of competitve building. Play Lawson more and Afflalo will get better. Allow rookie big to get used to nba and give chauncey rest. Make playoffs and get more experience in them making Denver a good place for free agents.
2012 - Kmart and J.R have expired. Getting rid of Bird and Balkman get an extra 5 mill expiring. Chauncey has a team option and being a team man near the end of his career wanting a title may allow the team to decline his option and sign to his last contract. This would give us around 20 million in cap space. enough to sign one top free agent and a number of role players some good players could be avaliable.
Al Horford - Atlanta can match any offer on Al but if they resign Joe Johnson this year to max deal they may not be able to afford to give horford a big contract and decide to go for a different free agent for cheaper
Jamal Crawford - See above
Joakim Noah - Again Chicago can match any offer but if they sign big this season they may not afford to match offers on Noah. Depending how much we would offer him
Caron Butler - Played at SG could provide good scoring complements to Melo
Marc Gasol - If he doesnt sign an extension he will be high on the Nuggets priorities
David West - Likely to opt out and seek a real contract. NOH likely will try to resign but we would have to convince him that we are the best chance for sucess
Others include Michael Redd, Jason Richardson, Carl Landry, Tony Parker and Zach Randolph
I dont know too much about once we go over the cap how we get our salary back to the 70 mill mark? (bird rights and all that stuff) but we could be hot favourites for the championship and be still pretty good in terms of money
Ideal 2012 team
Melo - 19 mil
West/Horford - 10 mil
Nene - 11 mil
AAA - 3 mil
CB1 - 2 mil (backload contract to allow for signings)------------------------------
Lawson - 2 mil
2010 rookie - 1 mil
Kmart - vet min
J - Rich/Caron/ - 6 mil
Landry - MLE
Leon Powe - Bi annual
Joey Graham - 3 mil
Hopefully the team could work that out and the players agree to the plan. Nene could also opt out to allow for more signings then agree to a new contract becuse of his bird rights?
So what would you guys think about making 2012 the year we win it? Does this plan make any sense or should we just try this year/ trade away expirings
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How hard do you think it would be to sell this plan
If you’re Wark and Friends, and you have to make the team better to prove you deserve to keep your job(s) now.
by InboundingLobPass on Jun 24, 2010 5:20 AM MDT reply actions
there will be a new collective bargaining agreement in 2012
denver will not want to take on players with extended contracts as a GENERAL RULE this season. there could be an exception but that would probably be a single case.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
there is a good chance for a lockout
preseason is in october with the start of the regular season in november. i would be shocked if something will be done before the holidays.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
I don't think anybody wants Balkman
Personally, I think he’s just in for the money, since he doesn’t even try to participate in practice. He’s lazy.
Birdman isn’t going anywhere. The people love him here, and you guys signed a petition a couple of years ago in order to keep him here.
The only person I truly see getting traded is Kenyon Martin.
Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
Agree.
and then we could pull a cleveland cavalier-I promise there was no prearrangement-deal and get him back!
by GottaLoveMelo on Jun 24, 2010 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions
You've got the years wrong in your description
KMart and JR expire in 2011. Bird will be very hard to get rid of before 2013.
David West is overrated in my opinion, and he is only 6’9" and 240 lbs, which means that the Nuggets will be very size-deprived. Al Horford isn’t much bigger, but he’s a more efficient player on both ends of the court
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = QPU (Quantum Physics University) #25, and no, it's not because of Anthony Carter.
Antoine Walker will win the 2015 NBA 4-point shooting contest. That's right, I said it first.
I dont think ppl understand
If the Nuggets dont make a significant move this offseason, Melo won’t be here for the following season.
He wants to stay but he wants to win, and if the Nuggets FO doesn’t show him they are going to help him, I don’t see why he would want to stay here.
I love Melo but if the Fo doesn’t make a splash, I won’t be mad @ him leaving. Business is business, winning is winning
Quitter's People United Member #27.5
and money is money which is why Melo is going to resign
He can make more green if he signs now before the CBA rules change.
by InboundingLobPass on Jun 25, 2010 12:10 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep
I hope the Nuggets aren’t using that fact as the reason why this extension isn’t getting finished faster. It’s too bad you can’t fire an owner
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = QPU (Quantum Physics University) #25, and no, it's not because of Anthony Carter.
Antoine Walker will win the 2015 NBA 4-point shooting contest. That's right, I said it first.
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