2010 Off-season Official Thread
by NugNugz on May 2, 2010 10:24 AM MDT
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I am creating this fanpost so that all of our thoughts are in one specific thread. I appreciate reading everybody's comments and ideas, but I don't want to have to go to 9 different fanposts to do it. I think we can get one very good dialogue going about our 2010 off-season wants and desires if we do it all in one spot. Should the Nuggets obtain draft picks then we can create a draft thread, otherwise, let's work mostly in here. With that said, let the ideas and comments flow in regards to trades, signings and potential draft ideas (just in case). Try to be realistic in your ideas and encouraging to others who have some.
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My Thoughts
Priority Number 1: Get GK healthy.
Priority number 2: Find either a starting big man or a big man that will play in front of Bird in the rotation.
Priority Number 3: Find a team that is looking for future cap space and then try to work a way for them to buy Martin out so Denver can re sign him for like 2 mil a year. If his ego won’t allow him to play for that much then let him walk. Focus on finding a team that is over the cap with good players under contract for the next few years.
Priority Number 4: Restructure Afflalo and Melo’s contract before they bolt. Both multi year deals.. give Melo the obvious Max and AAA something like what Bird is making.
Priority Number 5: Listen to offers for JR.. if there are any. If you trade JR make sure you get a scorer back and a pick.
Priority number 6: Let AC walk and finally use your MLE on a decent player.. please.
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
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tyrone corbin is the lead assistant for utah
his name came up the past few seasons for teams looking for a head coach. if corbin leaves utah look for adrian dantley to go back to utah. if that happens anthony carter can become a nuggets coach. that will mean……….ac is the ad of the nuggets.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
I’m wondering if JR can be traded for a defensive big. I understand that we need a scoring punch off the bench, but aren’t there a plethora of SGs who are inconsistent out there but capable of averaging 15 ppg off the amount of shots that JR gets? McCants for instance? I admit that most don’t have his explosiveness but maybe Graham can pick up the scoring slack with some consistent minutes.
Rework the front line, change the culture, develop a real "system"
The Nuggets talk about having an offensive system. What? This was the least disciplined half court team in the playoffs. Coaches need to make it a priority to run a more traditional style of offense with passing and movement. Melo and Chauncey need to sacrifice their 1 on 1 games for the betterment of the team. Melo should have no aspirations about winning a scoring title next year, he should have more than a handful of double doubles every season..
The front court defense was the reason we lost the Utah series. More so than Melo, AD, flopping, injuries, referees, David Stern and whatever. Melo and Birdman are garbage defending the pick and roll. This goes all the way back to last season, even when healthy the Nuggets bigs are poor rebounders and struggled against the bigger and taller frontcourt of the Lakers.
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I’m wondering if the hawks would be willing to trade Josh Smith for Nene. This would allow atl to slide Horford over to PF and Nene play C (he could theoretically be a center in the Eastern Conference). Josh Smith would greatly improve our defense. We would have to flip K-Mart and/or JR for a center though or else we would still be undersized.
They'd rather do Nene for Horford, who is a very good player
He averages 12 points and 9 rebounds, but is very efficient, plays hard, and works on defense. He also has a PER around 20
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"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = QPU #25, and no, it's not because of Anthony Carter
But then again...
Afflalo’s is at only 10 or 11, but Andersen’s is at 16.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = QPU #25, and no, it's not because of Anthony Carter
I'd take
Horford over Nene
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
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by Garrett Olsen on May 2, 2010 7:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Yep me too
Horford would be a dream if he wore a Nuggies uni
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
Dude is so underrated
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by Garrett Olsen on May 2, 2010 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions
he was an all-star though?
is that underrated still?
That’s why I suggested Nene for Josh Smith. Both were close to being all-stars this past year so it seems like a closer/fairer trade across the board.
I bet if
You asked an average basketball fan that didn’t follow the Hawks who Al Horford was, what team he played for and what postion.. they wouldn’t know as with Joe Johnson. Johnson is my favorite player. He is always under the radar.. you never hear his name in off the court issues and he’s a baller. Horford is the same way.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 3, 2010 12:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Doubt it
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by Garrett Olsen on May 2, 2010 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Interesting
But I’ll still put my draft thoughts in another FanPost
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = QPU #25, and no, it's not because of Anthony Carter
well apparently we might look to acquire Tyrus Thomas again... i like it...
The Nuggets tried to acquire forward Tyrus Thomas from the Bulls prior to the trade deadline, but he ended up landing in Charlotte.
The Denver Post writes that the Nuggets could try to get Thomas again as he could certainly be on the market.
Denver has $73 million tied up in salaries next season, making a potential splash hard to accomplis
via trade or free agency?
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by Garrett Olsen on May 2, 2010 8:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Sign and trade I bet
Charlotte could use a shooter. They were giving Larry Hughes minutes. Give them JR for Tyrus
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works for me.. as long as we use the MLE on a 6th man shooter.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 2, 2010 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions
he's not a great shooter
but ronnie brewer would be a good pickup for the MLE if that deal goes down. he does have an okay midrange J in spite of its funky look, he’s decent defensively, isn’t overly stupid, and is in the right places at the right times on offense. plus he’d be a good FU to utah. bring back petro (and possibly graham) and i’d be happy.
Is he a UFA?
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by Garrett Olsen on May 2, 2010 11:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Big fan of Ronnie Brewer
A scrappy, hustle guy off the bench who’s slashing ability would compliment AAA/Chauncey’s outside game. Only problem is he’s restricted FA for Memphis.
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by runningdonut on May 2, 2010 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions
damnnn.. S&T if only we had a 2nd rounder
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by Garrett Olsen on May 2, 2010 11:29 PM MDT up reply actions
damn you're right
i was under the assumption he was UFA. offer them balkman and a future 1st rounder in an S&T deal?
hey, they did take on zach randolph’s contract (although that gamble worked out for them)
ehhh idk about a future 1st...
i’d like to actually have at least 1 first round pic in the next 5 years haha
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by Garrett Olsen on May 2, 2010 11:50 PM MDT up reply actions
NO
Agree with Garrett, the team needs to stop trading all their draft picks
Drafts are the cheapest and easiest way to improve, why not take advantage them?
And the team only has so many picks…why waste them on acquiring scrappy bench players like Brewer when they could be used for much bigger deals?
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by Uh on May 2, 2010 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions
so a 1st rounder is going way too far
and i do agree to an extent; i can’t remember the last time this team actually drafted a player in the 1st round. how funny that our best draft pickup since melo wasn’t even drafted by us. and we gave up another 1st rounder in that one.
it’s too bad brewer is an RFA. would’ve been awesome to have him on our bench.
well we did get Lawson with a 1st rounder
granted we traded for him after he was drafted but still haha.
And yes a 1st rounder is wayy too much for Brewer but maybe a 2nd rounder. And you never know.. Memphis may not want to resign him
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by Garrett Olsen on May 3, 2010 12:04 AM MDT up reply actions
hoping they overpay for rudy gay
and revoke the rights to brewer to do so. would be great to snatch him for the MLE without having to give up anything.
Julius Hodge I do believe
Drafting was not Kiki Vandewheghe’s strong point…matter of fact, what was Kiki’s strong point…oh yeah thats right, shelling out the cash!
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balkman = demare caroll
I doubt memphis bites.
What about
signing Mike Miller if we get rid of JR? He will be a free agent and would fill in nicely.
If he'll sign for the vets minimum
sure why not
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Here's a thought
I was reading up on Pro Sports Daily NBA rumors and they are saying that Tornoto will be willing to trade Chris Bosh in a S&T if the team takes back Turk as well. Now I hate Turk with a passion, but when on is lethal from behind the arc and can score just as much as JR.
So how about Melo gives his buddy Bosh a call tells him to push a trade to Denver.
Then Denver offers up Kenyon’s 16.5 mil expirering in 2011, JR’s 6 mil expirering in 2011 and Renaldo Balkman’s 2.6 mil for Bosh and Turk. If Bosh wants to go to Denver.. that is actualy a really interesting deal for Toronto because they’ll get like 24 mil in expirering contracts for a FA crop including David West, Al Horford and etc.
Imagine….
Billups Ty
Afflalo Turk
Melo Graham
Bosh MLE player (Brad Miller or Tyrus Thomas???)
Nene Bird
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Gross
We’d have the highest payroll in the league, think about it – 5 players making over 10 million dollars a year
Billups, Melo, Turkoglu, Bosh, Nene
Hedo… disgusting man. The guy can’t play defense. We finally get out of a Kenyon contract and swap it out for an equally bad one with 4 more years left.
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by runningdonut on May 2, 2010 11:31 PM MDT up reply actions
haha
I know it sounds like you hate Turk as much as I do, but if it meant keeping melo and getting Bosh both long term how could you say no? Especially since Billups and Nene both come off in 2012 in which at least Billups will be back much cheaper.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 2, 2010 11:38 PM MDT up reply actions
I kind of feel like thats tough talk by toronto
Bosh could just pick up and leave and Toronto could get nothing. They’re not really in a position to make demands
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Bosh could
but Sign and Trades could happen as well… You know, if Bosh doesn’t really wanna fuck over the team that drafted him
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Kind of late for that though isn't it?
i mean they did sign Hedo to that absurd contract to try and surround Bosh with “talent”
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Well yea
I’m just saying maybe in respect for his former team, if he does decide to bolt and finds a team that he wants to sign with that will do a sign and trade that he will let them do that so Toronto can get a little something for him. Just our of respect to the team.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 1:30 PM MDT up reply actions
He won't
He’ll pull a Vince Carter on them (well, kinda, but in a slightly different situation).
If Bosh is dead-set on leaving, Toronto won’t be able to make any demands, and they’ll be really screwed for 2010-11 as they’ll be around the luxury tax with a bunch of overpaid, soft Europeans and two athletic swingmen without a jumper in Weems and DeRozan.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = QPU #25, and no, it's not because of Anthony Carter
it's not out of respect for the team
but because he can get more money from them – like 30 mil more
yea i just learned this as well haha
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by Garrett Olsen on May 9, 2010 10:54 PM MDT up reply actions
ball?
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by Garrett Olsen on May 2, 2010 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions
In all seriousness, no thanks on this one
As great as a Melo-Bosh tandem sounds, you have to take into account that the team would now feature four core players who need the ball to be effective. We know Chauncey’s not as good as he used to be, and the same is true for Turk only one million times worse. But he still needs the
ball
to have a positive impact, and that will seriously mess with the offense as currently constructed. And not in a good, ok-now-we-will-stop-playing-randomly way.
There’s also defense. Bosh sucks at it, and I suspect Turk does too (by virtue of he sucks at everything nowadays). So now we’ll have a dynamic, inconsistent offense and an even worse defense. Because it just so happens that replacing KMart with Bosh is a real downgrade defensively.
And of course money…Bosh is gonna be hellishly expensive by himself…add on 4 more years of ~$11 million to Hedo, who is only going to get worse.
We don’t know how Bosh is going to hold up over the next few years. He could be really good, but almost certainly not good enough to singlehandedly make up for the bad D, budget-crippling contract, and Hedo Turkoglu that he brings with him.
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by Uh on May 2, 2010 11:52 PM MDT up reply actions
ok
two things.. Turk would come off the bench and I think Chauncey and Melo would both be willing to give up a few shots as well as the 10 a game he is gaining from Martins absence to get him at 20-25 a game to go along with his 11 boards a game. His D is somewhat decent.. not so much like Kenyons, but his offense is so much of an upgrade I don;t think it would be noticeable.
And secondly, why is everyone concerned with the money if they ain’t payin it? I mean yea it would be a shit contract for 4 years, but a Melo-Bosh combo would be dirty
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by Garrett Olsen on May 2, 2010 11:56 PM MDT up reply actions
with regards to your second point, it's because stan hasn't shown much willingness to pay more
and also because we want that money free to use on other players…a collection of cheap, underrated talents (afflalo) is more valuable money-wise than Bosh and Turk.
Besides, with Turk on board the Nuggets will have two shit contracts…bird and turk. two players who will collectively be earning nearly 20 million when they’re 34. That money could be spent in much better ways.
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by Uh on May 3, 2010 12:07 AM MDT up reply actions
i feel ya
but bosh man! Lookin long term you got Ty, AAA, Melo, Bosh and Nene for your future as in next 5-6 years maybe more… thats pretty hard to say no too
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by Garrett Olsen on May 3, 2010 12:18 AM MDT up reply actions
turk is the definition of a bum
the only way you would ever convince me to take on his contract is if i’m getting lebron james or dwight howard in the deal as well. that’s how bad his contract is. i live in toronto, and raptor fans constantly complain about this guy and how much he (along with those other ugly contracts colangelo dished out) are going to screw the raptors over for a long time, in addition to costing them bosh.
but when he's on he's clutch
he just needs to be a minor piece not a big one
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Turkoglu?
I like him, but he didn’t play to his contract at all this season. A major disappointment.
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
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cuz he was with a shit team.. i think playing in denver may pose
his 18 ppg that he dropped in Orlando
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by Garrett Olsen on May 3, 2010 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Doubt it.
His contract is worth a lot anyway. There’s no way the Nuggets would be able to pay him.
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if they dump
Martin, JR and Balkmin they sure can
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 9:46 AM MDT up reply actions
+1
How anyone cannot get very excited over the prospect of Melo and Bosh on the same team with Billups to facilitate is beyond me.
right?
Who cares about Turk and his money? WE AREN"T PAYING IT PEOPLE
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
i like the offensive implications
but think about the fact that they couldnt defend anyone w/o turk and bosh comin in, plus losing kmart would make us just as soft as toronto, and you saw how that worked out. its fun on paper, but dosent work in the western conference playoffs
haha what do you mean
is that some lingo like lol or roflmao that I don’t understand? or ball as in your found nene’s missing testicle or ball as in Denver would be ballin?
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in fact, it's a quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DabmENJkRJA
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by Uh on May 2, 2010 11:45 PM MDT up reply actions
jesus christ i forgot about this
hahaha i thought getting Turk over JR would be an upgrade in IQ but maybe not
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by Garrett Olsen on May 2, 2010 11:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Trade JR and bring him in
I for one think Miller is a great compliment to AAA and a great 6th man for the Nuggets.
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nooo
Miller is washed up.. if your gonna trade JR bring in someone with a few years left in the tank… not a washed up wing player
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by Garrett Olsen on May 3, 2010 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions
I suggetsted Ray Allen in a different thread
Sure hi/s past with Karl may have not been great, but he will be had for the veterans minimum. He does respect Karl as a coach and person now. Comparing him to JR is about the same percent from 3, but Ray Ray doesnt kill grass. He’s older but on a 1 yr deal who cares
I dont advocate trading JR, but I do think this team needs to do whatever they can to improve.
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by The U.N. Fab Five on May 4, 2010 7:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Trade Idea!
How about this…
Clippers get: Nene, J.R Smith
Nuggets get: Chris Kaman, Rasual Butler or Eric Gordan.
i havnt done it in the trade machine yet but i think Kaman and nene make around the same amount
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no way they give us Eric Gordon
he’s one of their few bright spots.
haha I wish
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by Garrett Olsen on May 3, 2010 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Eric Gordon and Blake Griffin are the future of LAC
they are untouchable
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Anthony Randolph is still stuck in Golden State purgatory
wouldn’t don nelson much rather have a shooting guard to play at center like JR Smith?
I'd take Randolph
and Morrow for JR
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by Garrett Olsen on May 3, 2010 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions
I think everyone would like that
except for Golden State
yes yes i know
Maybe if we took shit biedrins off their hands for them too though?
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by Garrett Olsen on May 3, 2010 8:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Biedrins can rebound, if nothing else
But he has some injury concerns, and if I remember correctly a freaking ridiculous contract so it would have to involve Nene. Nene and JR for Morrow, Randolph and Biedrins….I think I’d do it. Morrow is an rfa this year too so he’s due a raise
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I would do that trade as well
Biedrins used to be real good a couple years ago like a 15 and 10 guy.. all i remember last year is he shot liek 14% from the free throw line.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 9:47 AM MDT up reply actions
In that case he should fit right in
Give him a year or two of “random basketball” and he’ll be jacking up three pointers like K-mart
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hahaha
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions
How about
GSW gets: JR, KMart,Petro/Allen/Graham
DEN gets: Morrow, Turiaf, Azubuike and a 1st rounder?
QPU Agent #43
Salaries my man, Salaries
yours aren’t even close in this scenario
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Rudy Fernandez anyone?
Apparently he could be traded
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hell fuckin no
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by Garrett Olsen on May 3, 2010 8:05 PM MDT up reply actions
hell fucking no again
and hes a flopping euro player NO
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by Garrett Olsen on May 3, 2010 8:05 PM MDT up reply actions
Rather him than JR
The guy can shoot and he is cheap.
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by Uh on May 3, 2010 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions
No way man
I’ll take Jr and his inconsistancies any day over Fernandez and the 6 points he’ll bring every night. He’s like a poor mans Linas Kleiza.. all he can do is shoot and he’s not even that good at it. At least JR brings more than just shooting to the table.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 9:49 AM MDT up reply actions
He's definitely better than Kleiza,
but otherwise I agree with you.
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I rag on JR a lot
But hell no to Rudy “show me on the doll where Birdman hurt you” Fernandez
by Artimus Mangilord on May 6, 2010 6:08 PM MDT up reply actions
flip JR for Tyrus Thomas
trade Nene for Brendon Haywood and Rodrigue Beaubois
and trade Kmart for someone at deadline.
Haywood's a FA
and why would we need Beaubois, we already have Lawson
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Beaubois is more of an off-the-ball type player
it would make us short in the backcourt, but we would also have the fastest backcourt in the league. Plus Beaubois is solid on d because of his speed and abnormally long arms. He also has serious hops. The mavs could do a sign and trade with Haywood.
Beaubois is also a damn good scorer
as he’s proven when given minutes this past season. he’s fairly consistent as well. I think he could easily replace JR Smith and not take as many stupid ass shots. Though Nene is way more skilled than Haywood offensively, Nene’s unwillingness to assert himself makes Haywood an okay move. He’s bigger and plays more defense.
Beabois is Dallas' future PG
Just like Ty is too us. I think Marc will hold on to that kid.. he’s a stud. I wish we could pry George Hill off of San Anton’s hands… that dude can ball
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 9:50 AM MDT up reply actions
Yeah but is that really worth it for Nene?
Maybe, I don’t know though
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I guess I don't either
I’m aiming to replace Nene’s size and JR’s scoring in one move. My next goal would be to flip Kmart for someone younger that has Nene’s size and skill (more or less) which would then give us a front court of Haywood, Tyrus Thomas (acquired for JR) and a Nene-like player. You might be wondering why I would trade Nene to only hope to acquire someone later on like Nene, but my reason is that K-Mart is not going to get us Haywood. Of course, if we could get David Lee (someone else I’m not completely sold on because of Dantoni’s system) then I’d be willing to have that conversation over Haywood.
Haywoods
gonan be 31 next year… thats 2 years off of Martin man.. He doesnt have much left. He’ll sign a 5 year deal worth as much as Bird’s with Dallas and be fucking them over by 2011
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 1:32 PM MDT up reply actions
From what I know of him Beaubois is the furthest thing from an off-the-ball player
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by Uh on May 4, 2010 2:11 PM MDT up reply actions
by that I meant that Dallas had been starting him for awhile ALONGSIDE kidd
who was the primary ball handler. Sorry for the confusion.
JR's bench scoring can be replaced. Finding a decent big is much harder
That’s why you have to look at using JR with Kenyon in a part of a deal to get a big, not Nene. As much as I want Nene gone, you can’t replace Nene with an equivalent PLUS expect to get another big of any decent value. Just won’t happen.
Now, JR’s 6m + Kenyon’s expiring…we could get a lot. Writing’s on the wall, Nene will stay, Kenyon and JR will go
Swats.
Kmart + Afflalo and picks for Bosh?
And Nene straight up for Scola?
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeew
How about KMart + JR for Bosh?
Swats.
by Colin Neilson on May 4, 2010 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions
that would be a sweet trade I think. Bosh would be a perfect with the Nuggets.
by Sammy Mugharbil on May 4, 2010 3:01 PM MDT up reply actions
If the Nuggets want Bosh THAT BAD
They better figure something out. The Rockets are puching for him, and their pushing HARD…from what I heard.
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If he can't go to his hometown Dallas
(and that ain’t happening), I see him going to Houston.
by Artimus Mangilord on May 6, 2010 6:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Goddamn.
Stop trading the picks.
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What about the T-wolves?
It seems to me that either Love or Al Jefferson are going to have to leave, & I think they’ll keep Love. What about sending K-Mart OR Nene for Jefferson? He’s an excellent post scorer when healthy and a better rebounder than anybody on the nuggets now.
I just feel like there is good value because they are gonna trade somebody just because Kahn isn’t a good GM. We can take advantage of this mistake.
see previous fanposts from about a week ago
Al Jefferson would be a huge mistake (that’s the summary of the posts)
Eh Idk about that
Jefferson looks so bad on D because he has no legit center playing with him. He is basically doing it all himself in the post. I mean his centers were Nathan Jawai for a while and then Milicic. Give him nene and I guarentee he plays a lot better.
If you can trade JR and K Mart for Brewer and Jefferson I would do it in an absolute heart beat. Brewer shoots 36% three poit and averages 13 a game basically the same as JR. Jefferson brings a legit post presence on offense.. someone who will legit run teh pick and roll with Billups and Ty and someon who grabs 10 or 11 boards a game. I think his D would improve with nene as well.
The only thing that scares me is his past injuries… he is only 25 though.. That’s pretty raw and he’s already had a few All Star type seasons.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions
I have to disagree
I would definitely do JR and K Mart for Brewer and Jefferson, but I would not do Nene for Jefferson. jefferson is sluggish and a black hole on offensive. still recovering from an acl injury too.
i'd do either
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by Garrett Olsen on May 5, 2010 12:48 AM MDT up reply actions
Just read it...
It sounds to me like most of the knocks on Jefferson can be at least partly blamed on a) being the best guy on a bad team & b) not having a decent coach… ever.
I do think that he’s their best player (as much as I like K-Love he doesn’t create offense. He’s more like an infinitely more talented Balkman)
I'm tellin you man
You make Jefferson a secondary player much like Jamison in Cleveland and he could really excell.
Love is kinda like a spot up shooting big. I see him as a much better LK including teh fact that he can post up and rebound. Love is a good player.. But he’s like an oversized SF and an undersized PF.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 1:42 PM MDT up reply actions
eh jk
It lists Love at 6’10 but he looks 6’8 when he plays
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 1:44 PM MDT up reply actions
Only for the right playerrrrrrrrrrrrs
And as long as the returning guard we get for JR takes number 5 so I can easily switch my jersey =)
Ex Girlfriend got me the JR Jersey.. don’t ask why she picked that player.. ALthough he is one of my favorite Nuggs when he’s not a dip shit.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 4, 2010 2:52 PM MDT up reply actions
My thoughts
First and foremost George Karl’s health is the most important factor going into the off-season and hopefully he will be able to come back next year. I think our main focus for the off-season needs to be getting another big man. Rebounding killed us throughout the year along with allowing second chance points, and against the Jazz Boozer and Millsapp controlled the boards. Plus Chris Andersen and Kenyon Martin have been struggling with injuries and who knows how affective they will be next year as they continue to get older. Also we should definitely shop JR around and maybe get some draft picks or a different player. I have always been a huge JR fan but these playoffs really showed just how inconsistent he can be.
i say if we do some of these talked about trades like JR for a big (Tyrus Thomas, Kaman, or someone)
then we should sign either Mike Miller or Flip Murray or even Al Harrington to get some scoring off the bench
Also what was said about Bosh earlier… as much as I hate to say it.. i think that its true that Toronto really doesn’t need to S&T Bosh, they only do it if it benfits them… considering the only thing they would want would be either Nene or JR, we’d prob have to take a bad contract (Turk was mentioned) thing is Turk might have the worst contract in the NBA… this guy sucked it up in Toronto… he’s like an old version of Kleiza with better passing… I think Toronto would do something like:
Bosh, Calderon (maybe add Evans or Banks, so they get instant cap relief)
for
KMart, JR and Karl
but Calderon would really only get like 15 min on our team, as a back up SG (which he could play, but would be horrible defensively) , I would try to flip him to a 3rd team like Miami, New York or LA
i'd be down with Al Harrington
dude is a soldier and does whatever you ask him to do.
not happenin
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by Garrett Olsen on May 5, 2010 12:48 AM MDT up reply actions
yeah
Sixers will only give up iggy if they get a star in return.I’m sure they’d be more then happy to deal us Brand though…..ugh
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yes yes and yes
but don’t see em dealing Speights
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by Garrett Olsen on May 5, 2010 3:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Why give up K-mart's expiring atrocious contract
for one thats even more atrocious and doesn’t expire for what? 4 years or something
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I'd go for Brand if both of his knees are well secured.
KMart and JR
for
Brand, Lou Williams and a 2nd rounder.
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We're already set at pg, Lou Will makes no sense
I have really tried to find a way to pluck speights from Philly, but they offer no 2 guard who can score to replace Smith (who would almost have to be part of the deal)
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Smith is good don't get me wrong
but it’s a lot easier to find a sg who will jack up shots versus finding a skilled big man. Smith is good and clearly one of the best 6th men, but I can’t help but wonder if his green light mentality can be found in someone else. After an inconsistent year for him, I also think it would be easy to find someone to replace that as well.
Willie Green?
The Sixers’ second round pick too (we could use it to draft a backup SG)
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6'3"
thats my issue with willie green, at least as 2nd string 2 guard. He’d be perfect if we had another 2 guard because he could be our combo guard off the bench, which i think would be useful to help reduce Chauncey’s minutes
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Mike Miller will command the MLE
But if for some reason nobody signs him, then we should snatch him up for the Bianuual Exception. He’s worth $4 million if you ask me, and he is more of a true sixth man at this point with his ability to play point forward, shoot the ball, rebound decently, and play hard on defense. In this scenario, we trade JR for some Jason Maxiell and the Pistons’ unprotected 2011 first rounder. Maxiell eats babies, and that 2011 first rounder will be Top 10. And if the Pistons really stink, we could get Harrison Barnes as a Melo replacement since the FO won’t extend Melo!
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"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
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Is he that amazing high school kid
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by Uh on May 10, 2010 6:05 PM MDT up reply actions
@ LACK
Maxiell sucks and Mike Miller is over the hill.. come on now man. When you look at youtube clips look at updated ones.. not ones from 6 years ago… I’ll take Miller for 15 min off my bench but not as my legit 6th man.
Maxielle is a 6’7 fat PF that is slow and doesn’t do anything. he’s a piece of shit
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by Garrett Olsen on May 10, 2010 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions
+1
It seems like I agree with you on almost everything you say, great minds and all.
Mike Miller? not exactly tailor fitted to our offense, he’d be decent as Garret said in spot duty, let him hang out in the corner and bury some threes, but he’s a total sieve on defense. Maxiell hasn’t done anythign in three years. Nuggets should try and get Amir Johnson, he’s athletic and plays decent D and rebounds well, probably could be had for pretty cheap. He’s not very big (6’9) but he has some serious upside and is only 23 years old.
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word
and anything but Maxiell… being paid 6 mil a year to do nothing and be overweaight is a pretty sweet gig.. almost as good as Eddy Curry’s haha =)
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by Garrett Olsen on May 11, 2010 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions
Screw that
Their contracts are HORRIBLE!
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ONce again
Are you payin em or is Stan the Stingy man payin em???
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by Garrett Olsen on May 5, 2010 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions
Technically
The fans are. How do you think they make thier money? Where does it come from? Eh?
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That is correct
But when it comes to paying the luxury tax it’s all on the owners. I’m gonna pay more on tickets to go watch a team that has a shot at winning a ship. Not a team full of immature morons who act like and 1 ballers and don’t rebound… Did i mention I don’t wanna watch players pout and bitch caugh NENE caugh caugh.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 6, 2010 3:11 PM MDT up reply actions
The Nuggets are already paying $81 million to $82 million including the luxury tax for a mediocre team
Seriously, think about that for a bit. And we’re only at 9 players, which means that each guy that we sign (including the tax) will add a MINIMUM of $2 million per player to that number. It’ll be $2.6 million per person if we sign a veteran, and possibly as much as $10 million if we use our MLE. If they do the moves some of the people here are clamoring for them to do, they’ll reach $95 million. That’s a high price for a small-market team, and it’s only worth it if they’ll make it to the NBA Finals, which ain’t happenin’
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"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
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We should have won the title last year
and were the second best team in the Western Conference with the best record against winning teams for most of the season before everything went sideways. We’re a little better than mediocre. And we’re the 17th size market out of 30 teams, and our owner has deep pockets. We’re not a small market team. Also, there’s a lot of stuff that has to happen before you can count our payroll for next season.
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i saw an interesting idea... not saying id do it... but its intriguing
Nene for Perkins and Rasheed Wallace
apparently the Celtics love Nene and almost trade pierce for Andre Miller and Nene back in the day…
well i think it helps us cuz Perkins is younger and bigger… also prob the toughest guy in the NBA…. but sheed is pretty shitty… i would prob rather have Davis or a pick instead… but hey… its an idea
Not Sheed
But I’ll take Nate Robinson off their hands with Perkins and maybe the other Allen.
Nate the great could be our 6th man at SG with Lawson.. yes very small but very fast and lethal. Then deal JR for anothe big like TT or something.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 5, 2010 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions
I hate Nate Robinson and Perkins
Not as basketball players, I just can’t stand either of those guys. Every time I see that stupid scowl on Perkins’ face I just want to punch it (after which, I’d have to run for my life). I suppose I could come to like Nate, but I’ still prejudiced against him for his shenanigans in the Garden brawl.
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Did you ever watch Nate
Play with B Roy at Washington? They were unreal. ALso did you know Nate played with Jamal Crawford in High School as well as B Roy maybe. Idk about B Roy but I know Crawford for sure.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 5, 2010 6:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
I loved watching that Washington team. I didn’t know Nate played with Crawford in high school. I didn’t think they were close enough in age to play in high school together.
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They only played for 1 year I believe
I may have the players mixed up as well… My friend is a huge Nate fan and told me all this stuff about who he played with in HS and stuff and I really thought it was Crawford, but you’re right.. there is a 5 year age difference however seeing as Crawford is a dipshit he may have been held backa year or two. I don’t know though. I’ll check up on it and figure out who it was. It may have been like a travel team that they played together on during HS years. I’m not entirely sure.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 6, 2010 3:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Perkins is a pretty good guy off the court though (no problems at all)
Nate reminds me of Earl Boykins, and THAT’S NOT A GOOD THING!
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"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
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Come on now
Nate is so better than Boykins it’s not even funny
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by Garrett Olsen on May 9, 2010 10:55 PM MDT up reply actions
True
But does JR cover anyone?
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by Garrett Olsen on May 5, 2010 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions
It would be AI and AC all over again
only shorter
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Chris Bosh has been sighted in L.A.
Just thought I’d throw that out.
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LA can't sign him
They have no $$$
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by Garrett Olsen on May 5, 2010 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions
The Clippers my friend
Most certainly have the cash to sign him
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Baron Davis!
You do have to consider that the Clippers have a solid young core of Gordon, Griffin, Jordan and Kaman, throw in B Davis as the veteran pg, if someone like Lebron or Wade were to go there, they would have a title contender
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that could be said for any place Lebron or Wade would go
because they are Lebron and Wade. The only place that might not be applicable is maybe Minnesota.
as far as the clippers- I’ll believe they’re any good when i see it.
Except Miami....
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Miami went out in the first round
Wade will stay if Amar’’’’’’’’’’’’’e or Bosh go there too.
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"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
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no i meant like Miami is still habitually in the playoffs.
as in even with only one good player, they still manage to get in the playoffs somewhat consistently
Oh
I still think Haslem is an underrated defender. Otherwise, their roster sucked monkey balls.
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"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
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Yeah in the Junior league
No way that Miami team sniffs the playoffs in the West
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you might be right
but they still make the playoffs rather consistently and unless some weird fucked up moving of the polar axes happens in 2012, they’ll stay in the Eastern conference.
No, they're the Clippers.
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by Uh on May 6, 2010 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Oh I'm sorry
I thought Mini Hulk was referring to the Lakers… When I hear LA and the NBA the last thing i think of is the CLips haha
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by Garrett Olsen on May 6, 2010 3:15 PM MDT up reply actions
I was referring to the Lakers....
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He's not going to the Lakers
It’s not happening
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by Garrett Olsen on May 6, 2010 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions
If the lakers don't make it to the finals
they may be persuaded to offer a package featuring Bynum to Toronto
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I just don't see it happening
Plus I would have a hard time trading Bynum for Bosh anyways. That gives you two PF’s who can score from almost all angles. Bosh brings the toughness and rebounding inside for the Lakers. He is a future All Star Center.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 7, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree
assuming you mean Bynum when you said Bosh in the last bit there. Bynum and Gasol creates a lot more matchup problems then Bosh and Gasol, but it is the Lakers so I don’t ever count them out when any big name becomes available
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Yea i did..
my bad
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by Garrett Olsen on May 10, 2010 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions
They're the Lakers
Of course they have the money. I hope Bosh doesn’t go there.
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How about
Sign Brendan Haywood
Trade JR for TT
Trade K-Mart for Turiaf azubuike and a 2nd rounder.
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Salaries Salaries Salaries
Turiaf and Azubike make a combined 7.2 million, K-mart makes just about 16 million, thats leaving you at least 7 mill short of a valid trade
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So we have
5, maybe 6 bigs and no wing players off the bench.. if you even consider Azubuike a wing? Idk? Is he a SF or PF?
We’re not gonna get Haywood. He will get a full MLE from Chicago or Dallas. Denver prob can’t afford that.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 6, 2010 3:17 PM MDT up reply actions
I still really like the idea of bringing in Al Harrington
he can bring a nice hi-lo game and he’s a good rebounder
bring his ass off the bench.
Harrington to Denver
With JR, Martin, Anderson and Balkman still on the team would equal the IQ of a 2nd grade recess team.
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by Garrett Olsen on May 6, 2010 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Does Balkman even have a basketball I.Q. from sitting on the bench for so f*cking long?
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I'm talking IQ in general
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by Garrett Olsen on May 6, 2010 7:58 PM MDT up reply actions
is it sad that I hope the Nuggets make some offseason changes just so my roster is a bit different on nba 2k11?
There's nothing wrong with that.
Funny side note to that….On My Player mode, the Nuggets traded JR for John Salmons. Bench scoring went up. But they also traded Lawson for Lindsay Hunter. ARG
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that game makes some real doozies for trades
I once signed AI and immediately flipped him for Greg Oden
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I heard that Miami is willing to give a 1st to a team willing to take on Cook and/or Jones...
personally i would take their pick (18th) and Cook for our TPE… sure its adding more money… but we get two young prospects… also i think Cook has a lot of potential… Whiteside should be available at that spot
I'd love that
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by Garrett Olsen on May 6, 2010 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions
I think
Miami would require someone to take back James Jones or Michael Beasley in the trade to give up their first, and they’d want to do it for as little money as possible. The nuggets could almost certainly pry Cook from them by offering Coby Karl and Brian Butch as their contracts are not guaranteed. The key to remember though is the only reason Miami is trying to do this is so they can create a super team. If they can manage to dump those three contracts, they can signLebron, Wade and maybe even Bosh, certainly Amare or Boozer or Lee
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Basically
Miami is calling Utah, Orlando and Washington and asking them if they’d like some free players, because those three teams all have exceptions large enough to take on jones or beasley
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We can all agree that....
the nuggets need a legit C, a consistent scoring threat off the bench and some feel that finding another superstar PF is also key. And to do this, everyone agrees that KMart and JR Smiths contracts, combined with nene, are the tools to get it done. Am i missing something?
Sign AAA and Melo to extensions
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by Garrett Olsen on May 7, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Pretty much my ideal (but somewhat realistic offseason includes):
Draft day trade: Cook, Miamis pick( i think 18th) for TPE and future 2nd or Buy a pick from ATL, LAL or ORL
Draft either Whiteside, Sanders, Alabi or Willie Warren
July 1st: After numerous phone calls made by Carmelo, Chris Bosh is convinced he wants to win a championship while still getting paid… He tells Colangelo to ship him to Denver…
July 15th: Toronto and Denver Officialy agree to a sign and trade of Chris Bosh for Nene and JR Smith
July 30th: After all the major names sign, a lot of good players are left for teams with only the MLE available
August 1: Brendan Haywood agrees to a 5 year, full MLE deal
August 3: Denver does it’s typical shroud tactics by signing Rashad McCants and Von Wafer to unguaranteed deals, both will try to compete for a spark plug off the bench
Training Camp: Denver enters camp with a revamped roster. projected depth chart
PG: Billups (28)/ Lawson (20)/ Marcus Williams
SG: AAA (28)/ Warren (20)/ McCants
SF: Melo (38)/ Graham (10)/ Afflalo (or Cook)
PF: Bosh (28)/ Martin (20)/ Birdman
C: Haywood (30)/ Birdman (10)/ Bosh (8)/ Petro
that team is so deep, not to mention we change the line ups a lot and play small ball… now tell me that team isn’t a title contender? of course….realistic? not really… chance of happening? 1%
but it parts or variations come through (like Bosh coming here, but Haywood not signing, or drafting someone else etc. ) this team would still be great
also, Warren really intrigues me b/c if we think that we are going to trade JR, this guy can become our scoring SG off the bench… i know you can’t just expect a rookie to contribute immediately (its possible tho, see Ty), we could have Ty be our sixth man and just let Warren slowly get accustomed to the NBA, so we have our future sixth man
two issues
A. Miami isn’t just going to give us a pick for literally sweet f*ck all. The TPE is not nearly enticing enough to give away a first round pick, maybe you could argue it is if Miami was strapped for cash, but they have as much cap room as almost anyone, plus how does that look to D-wade “Oh we know you want us to get you help, but we’re going to give away our first round pick”
B. Haywood for 5.8 million for 5 years?! Hell no! We are already paying Birdman 6 million into his late thirties, we don’t need to do that for Haywood too. 2 years would be ok, 5 years…ugh.
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
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This would obviously be great, but
we could do a lot better with that pick than Willie Warren. That guy blew this year. My UNC Bears absolutely shut him down and, well, I love watching those guys, but there’s no way in hell any of them play in the NBA. Also, I appreciate that teams with financial hardships (Miami falls squarely in that column) are good candidates to sell draft picks this year, 18 is still to high of a pick to not get any player in return.
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I don't know where else to put this, so...
Go Phoenix. Steve Nash is amazing. I really hope he can lead that team to a championship this year.
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Also I see a lot of 2009 Nuggets in the 2010 Suns
Good team that no one expected to do much at the beginning of the season…got hot at the right time…breezed through the first two rounds (sans 50+ point blowout)…great veteran point guard…star forward who can’t defend but can score in bunches…solid bench stocked with role players…facing the Lakers in the WCF…
At least Anthony Carter can’t mess this one up for them.
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by Uh on May 9, 2010 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions
He's almost as amazing as Rondo
29 pts, 18reb! and 13 assists. Plus he’s first team all defense, I mean he doesn’t have the best stroke or 3 ball but seriously he’s about as close to the complete package as you can get.
Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?
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Maybe
a little more size and I would say yes
def. jumped into the top 5 pg discussion
D Will
Rondo
Paul
Nash
Billups
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
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by Garrett Olsen on May 10, 2010 3:07 PM MDT up reply actions
however
I am very tempted to sub Billups out for D Rose… but I can’t with my home town bias and the fact Rose is still a youngster
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
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by Garrett Olsen on May 10, 2010 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Spurs guard Tony Parker could get traded
Any takers?
Rumor has it that he could get shipped to the Knicks…
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No to Tony Parker
but if we could somehow facilitate that in a 3 team deal that nets us something of value I’d be down.
What about JR + filler for Tayshaun Prince?
Detroit loves trading with us… Prince would be great as a 6th man lock down defender AK47/ Lamar Odom type player…
Even though i really don't want to trade JR... i have come to realize that, to get any good value... we need to trade him...
i hate to say it….
also, I’ve read that Toronto’s GM (BC) is interested in trading their pick (prob 13, but we’ll see after the lotto)… so JR for the pick and Bellinelli
then I remember how Memphis was interested in JR Smith, so maybe they would trade their pick (prob b/w 10-13)… they want to win now….
now at these picks, my ideal choice would be montejunas… i know we have had bad experiences with tall shooting euro… but this guy seems legit to me…
but we could also get whiteside or udoh or henry or orton…
just saying…
also, like i've said early in the year... we need to take advantage of other teams problems (i know other teams have done it to us, see dumping camby or selling firsts)
for example, if LBJ were to leave Cleveland, they have so much money tied up in these supporting players that they would have like 4-5 consecutive 20 win teams in a row…. so if he leaves (i think/hope he does). we should take advantage
like something along the lines of
Varajao, West for K-Mart
now, i hate Varajao with a passion, but if he played for the nuggets we would love that flopping bastard!!! seriously this guy plays his heart out and gets under people’s skin… but he has a horrible contract (i think 5 year 50 mil)
same could be said about other teams who could face bad situations…
Interesting move
But I’m not sure what the Cavs will do with such a huge expiring. I mean it’s not like any free agent would want to go there
in any case I think varejao plus west is actually decent return for kmart if west can get back to being halfway useful and varejao can keep up whatever magical things he was doing this year.
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by Uh on May 14, 2010 4:09 PM MDT up reply actions
my point is... if lebron isn't in Cleveland, why would CLE want to pay Varajao 50$ million or Jamison w.e $ he's making?
Might as well dump the salary for an expirerer even if they don’t think they’d get some free agents…
Tyrus Thomas
I’ve heard a lot of people saying they are hoping for Tyrus Thomas-we have heard a lot of things about problems caused by Thomas similar to those of JR-do you guys think it’ll be basically the same, or am I wrong in thinking that?
QPU #16!
You're not wrong in thinking he's a headcase with untapped potential
Also like JR, he’s an explosive athlete.
The difference is that with Thomas you get a strong defender but a terrible offensive player…basically the opposite of JR. From what I know of him he’s a little bit like KMart early in his career.
In any case I don’t know if he’ll cause problems the way JR has, seeing as Thomas’ value comes on the defensive end. And of course, that’s one area we need to upgrade. Whereas with JR, a lot of the problems he causes stem from his offensive inconsistencies.
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by Uh on May 15, 2010 8:18 AM MDT up reply actions
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