Time to look away from this season and towards next season
We just lost our first round series to the Jazz, and it was our 6th first round exit in 7 years (although to be fair, we didn't make the playoffs for like a bazillion straight years before that). Also, Chauncey Billups' streak of 7 straight conference final appearances has come to an end, but nobody cares because nobody should care (I just had to throw that out there for some reason). However, during the season, we faced numerous challenges, including injuries galore and our head coach being out since early March, and although I'm sure that Adrian Dantley did the best job he could, he is nowhere near the coach that George Karl is, and, frankly, at this point I doubt that Chauncey would be much better than Dantley (some have said that he should be player coach; the guy who shoulda been player coach was Dantley, as I'm sure he has some game left, and he can take pressure off our big men. But that's off the point). There were also many smaller, but still significant issues, such as our 22 back-to-back games, the incredulous number of games we dropped to crappy teams, the refs' unwillingness to call fouls (David Stern, please don't kill me for typing that), and Melo's odd troubles at converting FTs during March and the beginning of April.
But now, it's time to move on and see what we can do during the offseason to improve the team...
Join me after the jump for whatever I'm going to type next
(By the way, I've realized that nobody really utilizes the transition between the space above the jump and the space below it because you can only see the jump on a mobile device)
First off, I'll start by restating what I've said numerous times: the Nuggets are screwed financially. They were pretty screwed in 2009-10, but they are even more screwed in 2010-11. Here's the chart that I copied and pasted from Sports City (HoopsHype wasn't cooperating):
Players 2009-2010 2010-2011 2011-2012 2012-2013 2013-2014
| Kenyon Martin | $15,613,636 | $16,545,455 | |||
| Carmelo Anthony | $15,779,912 | $17,149,243 | $18,518,575 |
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| Chauncey Billups | $12,100,000 | $13,150,000 | $14,200,000 | ||
| Nene | $10,520,000 | $11,360,000 | $11,600,000 | ||
| JR Smith | $5,508,426 | $6,031,851 | |||
| Chris Andersen | $3,650,000 | $3,942,000 | $4,234,000 | $4,526,000 | $4,818,000 |
| Antonio McDyess | $3,000,000 | ||||
| Renaldo Balkman | $2,112,417 | $1,675,000 | $1,675,000 |
$1,675,000 |
|
| Ty Lawson | $1,438,680 | $1,546,560 | $1,654,440 | $2,544,528 | |
| Anthony Carter | $1,306,455 | ||||
| Malik Allen | $1,300,000 | ||||
| Arron Affalo | $1,086,240 | $1,959,577 | $2,806,053 | ||
| Joey Graham | $884,881 | ||||
| Johan Petro | $884,881 | ||||
| TOTALS | $74,992,698 | $73,940,862 | $52,180,593 | $8,745,528 |
$4,818,000 |
Yes, that's right. The Nuggets are $8 million to $9 million over the luxury tax for next season, never mind the salary cap. Also, things of note: Afflalo's deal for 2011-12 is a qualifying offer, and he's bound to make more than that given his work ethic and performance. Melo's and Nene's last year of their contract are player options,and Chauncey's is a team option.
The amount with which we are over the tax siginificantly limits our options. Kroenke probably didn't turn a profit with this team last year, and since he is busy trying to buy Arsenal, I doubt that he'll be willing to open his pocketbook for next season. Keep all of this in mind as I go on on this rant-like thing.
During this season, the Nuggets' biggest on-court issue that they had control of (thus, not including injuries) was defense. Our defensive rating of 107.5 was 0.7 worse than last season, but what's interesting is that our Pythagorean W-L record actually went up from 50-32 last season to 52-30 this season. Pythagorean win-loss dictates what a team's record should be based on statistics, primarily offensive and defensive rating. The fact that the Nuggets had 4 more wins last season than the stats say they should have had shows that Karl is a pretty damn good coach. This season, our record was much similar to what the stats said because Dantley isn't nearly the coach Karl is. Our defensive rating ranks 16th, while our offensive rating ranks 3rd and our pace ranks 5th.
Personally, our defense issue is more of a team issue than an individual one. Sure, Chauncey couldn't guard a good deal of opposing guards, and sure, Melo and Nene sometimes slack off on defense, and sure, Birdman gets faked off way too many times, but on paper, our team's defense should be good because of Afflalo and KMart. However, our team defense is what's causing us to be an average defensive team. First off, I need somebody to tell me why the hell the Nuggets almost always switch on screens. It's a good tactic in certain situations, but usually, we end up with Chauncey on Gasol or Lawson on Boozer. An example of this is a game from 2008-09 against the Kings, but the Nuggets haven't changed their defensive plan since then, so this is still relevant, and Jeremy of Roundball Mining Company made a great video out of this!
How to fix this: We could look at trying to sign good defensive players like Wesley Matthews and Tyrus Thomas, or trade for guys like Anthony Parker. What we really need to do is to learn how to defend the pick and roll, by having the guard fight over or sneak under the screen and having the big man corall the opposing guard for maybe half a second. That requires practice and effort, which is something that can be easily done. However, for some reason, I feel that guys like JR aren't going to do anything about this. More on that later...
Our second biggest issue in my opinion was passing. Our average of 20.96 assists per game wasn't shabby at all, but for a team that scores as much as we do, that's a rather low number. I've already mentioned the splits for wins and losses with assists, so I'm just going to say this: the Nuggets need to find a way to pass more. All the good teams just happen to be tops in the league in assists. Boston averages 23.54 per game, Cavs average 22.39, Spurs average 23.70, Dallas averages 23.38 (but they did get out in the first round because of no help for Dirk...), the Suns average 23.32, the Hawks average 21.87, and the Jazz....lead the league by a fucking huge margin with 26.71 assists per game. Yes, that's right. Although we're better than them on paper, their extra 6 assists per game really helped them, and that was the regular season. That wasn't the only issue, but it was a pretty big one.
How to fix this: Do some passing drills. Make a playbook so that we can actually get some passes in instead of JR/Melo isos. Have practices just focusing on making the extra pass. Sure, trading for guys that are more inclined to passing the ball will help, but if the team focuses on being unselfish offensively, we could easily get another 2 or maybe even 3 assists per game, and that might have meant a couple more wins, both in the regular season and the playoffs...
I know that the Nuggets don't rebound much, but they don't show much effort either. I guess those two problems get the tie for the third biggest issue facing the Nuggets. However, those two go hand in hand much of the time, as you can't get any rebounds without showing effort. The Nuggets averaged 41.39 rebounds per game during the regular season, which isn't horrible by any means, but the good teams do better than that. For instance, the Jazz, who aren't any bigger of a team than us, average 42.21. The Hawks, who have a 6'10" guy at center in Horford and a 6'9" guy at PF in Smith (which means that they're also not much bigger than us) average 42.19. The Lakers average 44.33, the Magic average 43.24, and the Spurs average 42.79. I don't know what more I need to say.
How to fix this: First off, listen to Dwight Howard. Sure, he's pretty big and strong as hell, but for rebounding fundamentals and effort are much more important than size. You hearing me, Melo/Nene/JR?!?
What we could do to help us is to add some size. I mentioned a Nene and somebody else for Dalembert, Speights, and the Sixers' first rounder sometime earlier, and although we would be in some trouble offensively for our bigs, we'd be a much better rebounding team, and while Dalembert is selfish, at least he takes it to the fucking rim. Speights would eventially take over the starting job, and a draft pick always helps. We could look at adding JR in that mix, demanding another guy from the Sixers, and drafting Wesley Johnson. Actually, I'll leave the trades for other people. To become a better rebounding team, the Nuggets need to show more effort and add size.
This guy was a better rebounder than the entire damn Nuggets' team combined
Sorry to all you people who had to read through this. Here's some funny videos to cheer y'all up!
The following one shows that the Nuggets do indeed have the ability to pass the ball:
You gotta love Rocky
The next two are mixes of two of our favorite bench players: Petro and Tacos. Who the hell makes these mixes anyways?
All of these must made me feel better...
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we should trade K-Mart, yes he makes our team better defensively, but even with him we are only average. I say just go for a true center and trade K-mart and JR Smith for Marc Gasol, Memphis would get the better end of the deal in the short run because Memphis already has a solid team as it is, but in the long run, getting rid of K-marts contract would do us wonders, not to mention we get a big 1 and 2 with Nene playing PF, and Melo not having to worry about rebounding.
I would try to trade just K-mart for Gasol but Memphis would most likely want more, but if we could give away just K-mart for Gasol maybe we can lure Houston into giving us Shane Battier for JR, that would help us defensively and get rid of the poor man’s Stevie Francis.
If George Karl retires then we should see if we can get Nate McMillan, a George Karl protegee who might be a good fit for our Nuggets and the rest of the coaching staff would stay for Mcmillan as he is a George Karl protegee.
these are my initial suggestions and they will most likely change as the offseason continues.
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KMart's expiring contract is valuable but market is limited
I love Gasol’s game but Memphis is not a team interested in an expiring contract. Plus Gasol has a small contract so Memphis would have to throw several players in to make the numbers work.
The market will be the team either on a full scale salary dump (see Wizards 2009) or a team positioning itself for the 2011 FA class (see Knicks, Heat 2009).
KMart is a defensive hound, but the NBA reality today is that nobody will trade for KMart the player. His only value is KMart the expiring contract.
Very sad state of the NBA today.
Too bad Memphis’ drafting of Thabeet was such a failure this year. If he worked out the Nuggets could dangle a deal of JR & a couple of 1st rounders for Gasol. But today Memphis needs Gasol as their starting center.
"Maxie Miner Rules"
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
yeah I don't think K-Mart will be traded until around the Feb Deadline
because of the reasons you listed concerning money
That's exactly true
Expirings, especially big ones, have the most value later in the season.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = #25
Below average defense and rebounding
Some of the guys on this team are good individual defenders, but not enough were part of a good team defense. Part of it is coaching, but in my opinion most of it is Melo and Chauncey’s non-commitment to the concept. When your 2 best players are also your 2 worst defenders, you better have a consistent elite offense and a deep bench who does know how to defend.
Nuggets have to become a more competent half court team. It plays directly to the 1 on 1 talents of Melo and Chauncey, and can cover up their struggles to pass the ball.
Here’s a sobering fact though. Can you take off the rose colored glasses and say with a straight face that our future looks bright compared to OKC, Portland, and Houston? I just can’t. We are deep in the luxury tax with this roster, and that is WITHOUT using the MLE and before filling out the roster with minimum contracts.
JR and Kenyon are nearly $23 million combined of expiring contracts. If you really want to move forward they have to go. Both deserve a heartfelt thanks for all of their hard work in Denver
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Quitter's People United Member #13
That's exactly right
We should trade JR and KMart at the trade deadline for a young big that is a rising star and a true sixth man, and possibly a draft pick, and take an undesirable contract so that the other team will accept the deal.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = #25
Free agent targets
Lou Amundson (should bring him in to start)
Joey Graham (should have been playing all year)
Mike Miller (a true 6th man, not fool’s gold like JR Smith)
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Quitter's People United Member #13
Trade JR for Rudy Fernandez?
He’s pretty unhappy in Portland
Or
Trade JR and future 2nd rounder for Barbosa and Earl Clark
Since I'm a closet Blazers fan and I know a good deal about their team...
They wouldn’t want JR and they don’t need him. They have Batum/Webster at the 3 and Roy at the 2. Also, they’d hate his attitude. Rudy isn’t much of a defender, and he’s shown that he won’t be much more than an athletic shooter.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = #25
Good choice, bad role
Amundson is the kind of player you definitely want on your team; but definitely not as a starter. Amundson, like Birdman is the ideal 4th big on your team. If he’s any higher then your depth of bigs has big problems (see Nuggets this year)
I like Graham and Miller is a good choice. He still has game, if he stays healthy, and won’t demand to be a starter and won’t be horribly expensive at this point in his career
He’s an older version Kyle Korver with more skill but with poorer health… good pickup
Also, Barbosa and Fernandez are both good choices too
"Maxie Miner Rules"
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
Amundson is such a high energy guy, and he's from Louisville, Colorado
But he’d want more than the mininum, and frankly I don’t know if we can afford him.
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = #25
Amundson creeps me out for some reason
What Would Brian Boitano Do? He'd Quit and believe in the Thuggets
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
Is it because of his striking resemblance to Fabricio Oberto?, who kinda creeps me out
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = #25
A little bit.
What Would Brian Boitano Do? He'd Quit and believe in the Thuggets
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
Amundson would be something a little less than the MLE
If you have to pay him MLE or more than he’d probably not be worth it.
Just like Bird, they actually got him for a pretty reasonable rate; the problem was playing him as the third big. Bird, and Amundson are the prototypical 4th big man, comes in hustles all out, gives energy; but you don’t rely too much on them or they’ll not deliver.
"Maxie Miner Rules"
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
I don't categorize Amundson as a "big man"
What Would Brian Boitano Do?
Quitter's Proud United Member #11
I'm guessing that people will give him around 4 years at 6.5 to 7 million per year
He’s already 32, but he can average 14 ppg and 8 rpg, but in 2007-08 he also showed that he can play well with a good center.
Actually, since big men like him are usually a bit overpaid, I’d say some team is going to throw 8 million per year at him
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = #25
rebounding
boozer and elton brand average career 20 points and 10 rebounds. no reason nene and melo cannot average 10 rebounds per game.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
kmart
can be traded to cleveland anytime up to the trade deadline. it does not matter if lebron stays or leaves. kmart played at university of cincinatti. shaq’s 20+ million contract comes off the books this season. kmart can sell tickets, his contract expires and is an instant upgrade on defense.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
you do know that Cincinnati and Cleveland are like 5 hours apart?
I don’t think many people will be driving up from Cincy to see Kmart hopping around on one leg.
you do know ohio has only one nba team
i do know many people move away from cincinnatti after they go to school there.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
Having lived 21 years of my 26 years in Cincinnati (which is how it's correctly spelled)
I am aware that Ohio only has one team. I am also aware that the Pacers play an hour and 45 minutes away from the east side Cincinnati and an hour from the west side of it and that more people are inclined to move there as opposed to Cleveland which is depopulating at alarming rates. So I still fail to see any logic whatsoever in your argument.
i used to live at 207 lyon one block over from clifton
used to eat at accropolis and was not able to spell cincinnatti or accropolis the whole time i lived there. it is called marketing and they will use the fact he went to collitch in ohio. just sayin’.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
nene
if he is traded his salary matches up with gortat and brandon bass combined. both players were underutilized and have long term deals. nene’s deal will expire before gortat and bass.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
Interesting deal
but my first choice would be to trade Nene for comparable value. Nene’s a legit starting player, probably more a PF rather than a C. There may be teams who’d offer more because they’ll think they could get more out of Nene then the Nugs have… and maybe they could.
Bosh for Nene & other stuff was a legitimate offer earlier this year and would’ve helped both teams; but that ship has sailed.
If the Bulls fail in their FA chase they may be a trade partner if Nugs are willing to take back some longer term talent that would help the Nugs. I’ll be watching the Bulls closely this off season. I would gladly take Deng’s contract if it meant also getting Noah.
I also wouldn’t rule out the Knicks as offseason trade partners. If they don’t succeed with their plan to sign to top FA, they’ll likely re-load for the next offseason’s FA shopping. At which point KMart’s and/or JR’s expiring contracts would look very attractive ($22mm in combined expiring contracts).
There are legit deals that can be made without breaking the bank. The Nugs owner & FO just have to have the backbone to make those deals.
"Maxie Miner Rules"
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"
melo
melo does the lebron-amar’e sideshow of making demands and giving ultimatums look for stan to deal him too. melo wanted to sign an extension last summer but the front office declined. the summer before that denver was thinking of trading melo. clippers could be a destination. nuggets could get blake griffin, eric gordon, rasual butler and a 1st round pick. melo and kobe at the staples center playing on different teams.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
melo making demands and giving stan ultimatums will not happen either
stan will not be placed in the same position the suns and cavs were put in by lebron and amar’e. he will deal him sooner rather than later.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
Melo for who?
Trade him to the TWolves for Kevin Love and Evan Turner?
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = #25
i never said he did - let us review
2 seasons ago melo and his agent asked if the nuggets were going to trade him. there were rumors to the effect. last season melo could have had his contract extended but the nuggets declined even though melo was willing. the last time denver played the knicks melo said he would like to play in madison square garden. lebron and amar’e have played the waiting game and made statements for terms and conditions for resigning with their respective teams. my feeling is stan will not engage in public posturing through the news media. melo goes down that road stan will not.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
smith who would want him?
new jersey is his home state and they are coming off the worst season in the league. dallas employs a full time sports psychologist. with smith on the team the psychologist may need his own psychologist. mark cuban would love the thought of getting smith from denver and turning him into an all star. bobcats have joey graham’s twin stephen and a 7 foot center from france alexis ajinca. mike jordan could be a positive influence and up for the challenge. denver would then have the graham twins and two 7 foot frenchies. nothing like double your pleasure and double your fun.
pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow
we're on a mission from god
Alexis ajinca blows
He didn’t make the French national team when Boniface N’Dong did
"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
"He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.
#3 + #6 + #15 + #1 = #25
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