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After tonights game, I have had enough with a constant play that certain teams and players keep doing.  I am talking about he oh so annoying flop. 

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Tonighs game against the Houston Rockets was the worse one yet this year in regards to the flop.  Luis Scola, Kevin Martin and Shane Battie each flopped at least three times a piece and got the call on half of them.  It altered the outcome of the game in favor of Houston and really just takes away from the game of basketball.

I feel bad for Houston Rocket fans because if my favorite team played like that I would have to stop watching them.  It's just not fun to watch and takes any kind of physicality there is in the NBA.  This leads to my next point.  I think David Stern needs to enforce a flop rule.  I think it should be a team foul and an automatic turn over.  Each team should get one warning, like the delay of game rule.  And after that, if a flop is called it shoul be a team foul and an automatic possesion for the other team.

The flopping is getting rediculous ridiculous and I really think a rule should be made to prevent it.  What do you guys think?

 

The All Flop List:

1. Manu Gifloply

2. Sasha Va-flop-on-you-cich

3. Dirk No-i-didn't-just-flop-witzki

4. Chris Palease-give-me-the-call-ul

5. Kevin Man-i-flopped-u-rtin

7. Luis S-hould-I-flop-now-cola

8. Shane B-etter-watch-out-for-my-flop-attier

9. Anderson Varaflop

10. Dwayne Waddaflop

Poll
Do you think a flop rule should be made?
No! Let Sasha V, Tony B and big Dirk do their thing!
6 votes
Yes, but Sasha V, Tony B and a lot of European players will be lookin for a new job
81 votes
I don't care
12 votes

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Tony Battie???

You mean Shane Battier?

MELO!!!

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by abaca15 on Mar 15, 2010 10:57 PM MDT reply actions  

wow

you are totally right haha thanks man i had a brain fart… i just changed it haha

"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"

by Garrett Olsen on Mar 15, 2010 11:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

El Busto

"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
""He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"We're just tough, man" - Chauncey Billups

by LACK on Mar 20, 2010 12:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

you know that it's possible to edit the polls right?

and do i care of vujacic and varejao don’t get a job? no!

my shift key isn’t working…

"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
""He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"We're just tough, man" - Chauncey Billups

by LACK on Mar 20, 2010 12:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

Unbelievable flopping from Houston tonight

I hate NBA refs but tonight is exactly how they should handle flopping, they punished Houston for it by calling fouls on them and not falling for it.

Proud member of Thuggetz nation.

by Phil H. on Mar 15, 2010 11:37 PM MDT reply actions  

i do not care and the nuggets should not either

that was not the reason denver lost. according to coach dantley it was transition defense. i agree. nuggets should have learned an important lesson against dallas in the playoffs. melo was fouled, he kept playing because there was no whistle and hit a game winning shot. i have said it before and will say it again. THERE ARE VERY FEW SECRETS IN THE NBA. THE FEW SECRETS IN THE NBA DO NOT STAY SECRETS FOR VERY LONG. nuggets always bitch about fouls. when that happens the other teams take the ball the other way and score an easy lay up. melo can complain all he wants about a lack of respect. he is correct. meanwhile the other team is headed the other way for an easy basket.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Mar 16, 2010 12:25 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

I didn’t see the game tonight, so I can’t comment on this particular game specifically, but you’re dead-on about this part:

nuggets always bitch about fouls. when that happens the other teams take the ball the other way and score an easy lay up. melo can complain all he wants about a lack of respect. he is correct. meanwhile the other team is headed the other way for an easy basket.

It’s so obvious, if we blog commentors can see it, I don’t understand why the coaches aren’t sitting down with the players in the film room and showing it to them.

by ParkHillNative on Mar 16, 2010 1:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

thaaaaaaaaank you

Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?

by Zachm219 on Mar 16, 2010 2:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

haha

I will admit my spelling is terrible. I fixed it!

"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"

by Garrett Olsen on Mar 16, 2010 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

...

There actually is a rule, came into play a few years ago where if you flop, you get the foul. It works about 20% of the time as the refs can’t watch everything on the court (just impossible) so they react to the after play (guy falling down, flailing arms, tears running down face)

by RPN on Mar 16, 2010 7:47 AM MDT reply actions  

Garrett Olsen - my thoughts EXACTLY!!!

I watched last nights game and told my own 17 yr. old son that players like Kevin Martin are frickin’ pussies! Yes I used those words to him. Kevin Martin is not man enough to take a little banging in the big boys league. His flops are sick. Not to mention as Garrett did many other NBA players. Scola, Battier, Dirk, hell even Lebron James does it. CP3 does it. The NBA (do you hear me David Stern?) needs to make a rule about this. How about the propietors of this site? Andrew, you have many contacts with the powers that be. Is there anyway you can put the word in Stern’s ear?

by redrockerb on Mar 16, 2010 8:47 AM MDT reply actions  

haha

I think its funny you used “frickin” then used “pussies” If you’re gonna used pussies then go all in and say they are fuckin pussies! hahah…if you insist on using frickin tho…then I would go with frickin pansies.

other than that…i didnt get to watch the game :(

by GottaLoveMelo on Mar 16, 2010 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

According to ESPN films

Reggie Miller started it all. I guess when your big sister consistantly beats you in basketball then you must develop your game some how…“I’ll fall down if she comes near, yeah that should make people love me more.”

P.S. Reggie, I still hate your guts.

by Joelsopinion on Mar 16, 2010 11:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

I was gonna

uses his name in the poll, but I just have never gotten over Sasha Vaginachich’s flop when JR ran at him when he shot the 3 in the WCF. JR was 3 feet away, he fell and got 3 shots. Worse flop of all time. I did forget CP3… He flops a lot too.. It is kind of strange that it seems like more West Conference players flop than East. Doesn’t it seem that way a liitle?

"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"

by Garrett Olsen on Mar 16, 2010 1:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not really

all players flop to try to get the benefit of the whistle. Some flop, some use wild arm movements, some throw their legs. Everyone tries to get the benefit of the whistle

by Marty Mart on Mar 16, 2010 2:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Marty the troll is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am welcoming you with open arms to spew some more Laker rage on www.denverstiffs.com

by Gasus on Mar 16, 2010 3:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

what rage

I’m just saying that all players flop or try to get the benefit of the whistle. I don’t understand why thats a troll comment.

by Marty Mart on Mar 16, 2010 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

I believe a Laker fan (Marty Mart) posted the following on the Weekly Optimism post:

“The only problem is playing up to potential for 7 straight games is something the Nuggets have not done all season.” Condesending Laker fan comment no doubt. Now if you were a Nugs fan, this may not be such an infraction. But if you want to talk shit about our team then expect some people to talk shit back.

by Gasus on Mar 16, 2010 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

I didn't talk stuff

I was making an observation of your team. I clarified it later, but as this is a Nuggets blog why should I come here and talk about the Lakers/Cavs/Mavs/any other team. It wasn’t meant to be a slight.

by Marty Mart on Mar 16, 2010 4:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

dont get Gasus started...

Gasus will defend the Nuggets honour till the end

PS…GASUS HATES LAKERS FANS

by InboundingLobPass on Mar 17, 2010 2:31 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know

I didn’t say anything offensive tho.

by Marty Mart on Mar 17, 2010 10:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

This is starting to remind me of the Cantina scene in Star Wars.

“He doesn’t like you.”

“I’m sorry!”

“I don’t like you either!”

by ParkHillNative on Mar 17, 2010 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah it does

That is because the Spurs and the Rockets are in the West plus we see a lot more of the West as Nugs fans. That Varajao from Cleveland should be on the biggest flopper list too. You should redo this post and take out Tony Battie and put in Varajao (I am spelling it wrong), Ginobili, Scola, and Vujachic. I will rec it as I am sure many others will if you fix it. We could have it on recommended posts till the season is over.

by Gasus on Mar 16, 2010 3:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

I just updated it =)

Haha I think it’s pretty accurate!

"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"

by Garrett Olsen on Mar 16, 2010 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yess. He is the biggest freaking flopper ever.

He is a magic fans nightmare. He is sooo annoying, but apparently Cavs fans love him. I’m guessing because he gets the cavs whistles? He is the biggest flopper in the East that comes to mind.

by GoMagicGo on Mar 16, 2010 11:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

LMAO

I love Manu’s late reaction to getting hit. He takes the hit in the stomach, doesn’t even flinch and then turns and touches the ground as if thats the natural reaction.

by Marty Mart on Mar 16, 2010 4:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

If I got a free taco for every time Manu Ginobili flops...

I’d be dead.

"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
""He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"We're just tough, man" - Chauncey Billups

by LACK on Mar 20, 2010 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

Call it a Ginobili

Same as a T. Two Ginobilis and you’re out of a game. Ginobili’s career would be over. As would Sasha Vaginabitch’s.

Jibbles is an older man so you can trust what he says.

by Bob in Boulder on Mar 16, 2010 5:42 PM MDT reply actions  

Anderson

Varegina.

"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
""He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"We're just tough, man" - Chauncey Billups

by LACK on Mar 20, 2010 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions  

yes
I think it should be a team foul and an automatic turn over. Each team should get one warning, like the delay of game rule. And after that, if a flop is called it should be a team foul and an automatic possession for the other team.

either that or the refs just dont give them the call.
I dont like watching the NBA go the route of European soccer like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2FG1WAry08&feature=related

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Mar 16, 2010 7:53 PM MDT reply actions  

Too serious.

Others on here even went as far as suggesting getting rid of offensive fouls. Fact of the matter is, flops are exaggerations which everyone does. You’re not gonna get rid of it no matter what penalties you use, so you just have to trust it. They don’t always get the call for flops, just like everyone doesn’t always get calls for legitimate fouls. Its not something that can just be fixed with a rule or law.

by Marty Mart on Mar 17, 2010 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thats easy for a Laker fan to say

Since Kobe gets the call even if you look at him wrong, and half your team uses to the flop method ie. Gasol, Vflapachich, Walton, Kobe etc. It’s retarded and LA is one of the teams that does it the most. You could easily make a flop rule. Flops are as easy to spot as a foul is. If you wanna worry about the refs gettin whistle happy with an already whistle happy game then make a flop a tech.. I bet 10-15 players would have to move to Europe to play ball… Sasha being one of them.

"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"

by Garrett Olsen on Mar 17, 2010 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ok

whatever you say. I find it funny that L.A. does it the most considering their about average when it comes to drawing fouls anyway. And of the 4 players you mentioned, Vujacic plays horrid defense for less than ten min a game, Pau rarely gets other players in foul trouble, and Walton hasn’t even played 20 games worth of min and has been injured most of this season. I guess Ron Artest is a flopper to you as well. Like I said, every player exaggerates things including Kobe, Melo, Wade, Bron, and company at the elite levels of the game. Flops don’t need to be a tech, we have enough things that get a tech already. Besides when a ref realizes they got done over by a flop they usually don’t get the benefit of the whistle during that game overall and they give a makeup call to the player. You’re fussing for something that is at most less than 5 fouls during the course of a game, nowhere near enough to actually effect the outcome unless its a flop at the end, which is rare but maybe Denver gets bested by them more often than I see.

by Marty Mart on Mar 18, 2010 10:50 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Recommended
  • Lakers. They get every call they want but still bitch to the refs.

by Blag on Mar 24, 2010 6:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

oh btw

sasha isnt really a flopper. hes just a terrible shooter/ heavily overrated defender who makes idiotic fouls then goes and whines to the refs. He will probably be gone from the league once his contract expires in 2011.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Mar 16, 2010 8:01 PM MDT reply actions  

I’ve seen him flop. Definitely.

Jibbles is an older man so you can trust what he says.

by Bob in Boulder on Mar 16, 2010 11:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

did you really just say

sasha is not a flopper, this is the best case of delusional lakers fan ever

Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?

by Zachm219 on Mar 17, 2010 12:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

and tell your signature to Ty Lawson, he’ll get a chuckle out of it

Why live life on the edge, when you can jump off?

by Zachm219 on Mar 17, 2010 12:59 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

shaqfor3

I mean this in the most respectable way possible… but are you fucking retarded? Sasha doesn’t flop? What?

"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"

by Garrett Olsen on Mar 17, 2010 1:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

look I never say he doesnt ever flop. But in comparison to Ginobli, Varejao, etc. (the big time floppers in this league) he flops a lot less frequently. Plus also take into consideration the huge cut back in his minutes this year. Other aspects of his game such as his idiotic fouls or poor shooting stand out a lot more.

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Mar 17, 2010 5:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

said*

"Just by the aura of D.J. Mbenga being there, the shot missed."

by shaqfor3 on Mar 17, 2010 5:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

with the huge cut in minutes...

he has got to have the highest flop per 48 mins in the league!

by GottaLoveMelo on Mar 18, 2010 9:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yea he's definately a flopper.

And so is Pau. I personally like Pau, but he is one of those European players that flops. I don’t see how you can deny it.

by GoMagicGo on Mar 17, 2010 2:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ginobili is the worst ever. And as much other garbage as their is out there, nobody really even comes close.

Jibbles is an older man so you can trust what he says.

by Bob in Boulder on Mar 17, 2010 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions  

+1

Scola and Varajeao (however the fuck you spell it) are making a run at him this year though.

by Gasus on Mar 17, 2010 2:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Just call him vaginia-wow

Sounds the same and has a spelling no one will ever forget

by Joelsopinion on Mar 17, 2010 2:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

I spell it S-i-d-e-s-h-o-w B-o-b.

"Woohoo Denver, Yeah... All right Denver justify my love!" ...Homer Simpson

by Thursty on Mar 18, 2010 6:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

floptastic 4

danny ainge, bill laimbeer, reggie miller and dennis rodman. you could get any one of these guys today, put a uniform on them and they could teach a carp how to flop on dry land.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Mar 17, 2010 3:00 AM MDT reply actions  

different flops for different folks

1. floppaholic. 2. floptusi. 3. floppizzle. 4. flopmaster. 5. floppapalooza. 6. flopnick. 7. floppinski. 8. flopster 9. flop’n’roll. 10. floppalot.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Mar 17, 2010 3:42 AM MDT reply actions   2 recs

sir flopsalot

"I know the game of basketball is one-on-one (oriented), but the pain of beating a defense by the pass — it confuses and frustrates the defense more than just going by a guy one-on-one." George Karl

by NuggetsLife on Mar 17, 2010 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

noflops4u

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Mar 18, 2010 4:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Huge +1

Flops should be fouls. They call it in Soccer and it works.

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by c_style on Mar 17, 2010 5:02 PM MDT reply actions  

Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds. - Albert Einstein

Once we accept our limits, we go beyond them. - Albert Einstein

by c_style on Mar 17, 2010 9:13 PM MDT reply actions  

There is a rule!!!

But the refs choose to ignore it. If it’s an intentional flop then the foul is on you. But the badly trained refs continue to go by “what they think happened” rather than what really happend.

Stern needs to swallow his pride and admit going to the 3rd ref system was a bad idea and go back to 2 refs in the game. The games truly were called better with 2 experienced refs.

The 3rd ref is usually poorly trained, very inexperienced and doesn’t know when you should and when you shouldn’t blow the whistle.

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