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DENVER, Where AMAZING..................

 

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, being the 6th Best team in the league happens.

Or Denver, where beating the Lakers or the Cavs one night, and losing to the BUCKS, CLIPPERS, TIMBERWOLVES, PISTONS, HORNETS, 76ers, KINGS, WIZARDS, Happens!

Let’s face it, these bad losses are really starting to add up. If this "WANNA BE"  Championship team wants to actually have a shot at the title, home court advantage throughout the playoffs is crucial! If it were to come down to a game 7 in the 2nd round against the Mavericks, or a game 7 in the WCF's vs. the Lake Show, we need that game to be at The Can. Currently, Denver is 5.5 games behind LA. If the Nuggets, for instance would have went 6-2 in those 8 disgusting, and unforgiveable games, that would have put us at 42-13 and percentage points ahead of LA for the number 1 seed in the West.

That's all in the past though and there is nothing they can do to change it now, but for a veteran team that should have its eye on the prize and know how important playoff seeding is, it is inexcusable to be losing to these lowly teams. So since the Nugs can't take care of business vs. the JV squads, we will probably be in a dog fight with Dallas and Utah for 2, 3, & 4, for the rest of the season. That pretty much sums up some of the matters on the court, now for what I really came here for and that is to put Silent Stan and the front office on notice.

Earlier, I stated that the Nuggets are the 6th best team in the league. This is based on if we were to play each team in a 7 game series. I feel that there are 5 teams that are better than us in this situation. Obviously they can beat and also lose to anyone on any given night, but here's where we stand. (You HOMERS are going to love this)

1.    Cavs

1A.  Lakers (They are on Champion coast mode until playoffs)

3.    Magic

4.    Celtics (Vets just waiting for the playoffs)

5.    Mavs (This one really hurts, but I love their additions of Butler and Haywood. Dirk now has a legit 5 and another all star caliber player that can also play a little D in Caron. If they can figure out their rotation, roles and get their chemistry right in time for the playoffs, they will be tough.

6.   Nuggets

So this is where my anger sets in! Mark Warkentien, Rex Chapman and Bret Bearup, have been sitting at their desks, with their feet up, patting themselves on the back, all off season which has carried right on over into the 09-10 season, and continues, after once again not doing anything to make this team better at the trade deadline. The first disaster was when they didn't use the 9 Million dollar TPE from the Iverson/Billups deal that expired on Nov. 3rd. This most likely had a lot to do with Silent Stan going cheap skate on us and not wanting to pay the luxury tax. Listen, Stan if this is just a business for you and all you care about is the bottom line, then to me, as a fan you are in the wrong business. Maybe it’s time for you to go back to developing strip malls anchored by Wal-Marts! When I hear you crying about a couple million dollars to sign a player that could potentially make this team better it makes me sick. The NBA is monopoly money, especially for successful winning franchises. If we were a cellar dweller, with no shot at the playoffs, I could understand the fiscal responsibility, but when you are filling the arena on a nightly basis, selling over priced food and beverages, in addition to selling tons of merchandise and you are on the brink of a championship, it is absolute Bull$*&%!!!  Both you and your wife are Billion, yeah with a B, Billionaires!  I don’t think a mil here or there is going to hurt you. You aren’t Sprewell, and you will still be able to feed your kids, and the revenue from the extra playoff games will more than cover the money spent. Give us an owner like Mark Cuban, who may at times be a jerk off, and sometimes makes poor player personnel decisions, but when push comes to shove he is as passionate as they come and all he cares about is WINNING and will SPEND whatever it takes to try and make his team better. Do you ever hear Jerry Buss say, well let’s not bring in that guy, because that will put us over the luxury tax? Aaaaah, let me think about that for a second........ NO! Because he will do whatever it takes to win! We as fans, that pay several hundred dollars each time we go to a game, deserve better and should be offended!

So as all of the other contenders have made moves to get closer to the coveted Larry O’Brien trophy, The Three-Headed Remedial Monster (3HRM) continues to sit and do nothing! The Lakers win the title and go out and get Ron Artest. The Magic made it to the Finals and then went out and signed Matt Barnes, Brandon Bass, they retained Gortat, they traded for VC, they made moves to try and position themselves to better compete for a championship. The Cavs, got Shaq, and  Jamison, The Celtics signed RaSheed, and traded for Nate Robinson. The Mavs, traded for Shawn Marion, Caron Butler, Stevenson and Haywood. These teams all made moves and took chances to do what they felt could make their teams better and not once was money ever an issue. Whether their personnel moves were right or wrong, winning was the key factor, and a championship come this June was the core element.

What did our Nugs do??? Okay in fairness, we made some decent offseason transactions. We traded for Afflalo, who I really like. He is a much better overall basketball player than Dahntey Ones (No J). We signed Joey Graham who is a very nice role player, that deserves more playing time, resigned Bird(5 years was about 2 or 3 years too many for him), and made a great draft day trade to get Ty Lawson, but we also completely missed on DaJuan Blair, the big body and quality rebounder that we so desperately need. All in all, we made some excellent moves when it comes to filling the roster at some key positions and added some solid role players, but completely dropped the ball when it came to giving us that one extra player that puts us over the edge and allows us to dethrone the Lakers!

This is something that has to be done soon, and by soon I mean last week, because at age 33, Chauncey has the rest of this season, next season and maybe one more to play at an extremely high All Star level. He is in his 13th season, and at some point, age, wear and tear, and possibly injuries are going to slow down our beloved King of Park Hill. We have realistically a 2, maybe 3 year window to try and accomplish this, because let’s face it, once Smooth is gone from this team or no longer playing at a high level, all bets are off with this cast of characters. Not to mention, Kenyon entering the last year of his contract. So when management lets all of these TPE’s expire without using them, and the trade deadline comes and goes with nothing, you have to ask yourself if the front office is asleep at the wheel, if Stan has tied their hands with his frugalness, or if they really believe that they have what it takes to win a title? I would say it’s a mix of all three, which as a fan is causing pre-mature graying.

I swear the front office guys act like we are going for a 3-peat or something and don’t want to break up a dynasty. Warkentien, you’re not  "Crumbs" that’s Jerry Krause for you younger fellas. When guys like Chris Bosh and Amar’e are available, you have to do whatever it takes and ask yourself, can we send Nene and some guys from the end of the bench to make the contracts match to Toronto for CB4, or the same thing for Amar’e(though he’s a lot more riskier for locker room cancer and team chemistry reasons) . At what point do you guys realize that Nene is "who we thought he was! Now if you want to crown him, then crown him, but he is who we thought he was!" If you can bring in an All Star, you have to do whatever it take to make it happen! Like I said before, it’s not like you are breaking up a dynasty Wark! We got extremely lucky last year with the matchups and all the basketball God’s were aligned for the Nuggets because Dallas and New Orleans were HORRIBLE! We breezed through to the WCF. Who knows what would have happened if we faced, SA, Houston, or the Blazers in the early rounds? Maybe the 3HRM wouldn’t be sitting on their high horse and you would have done something to improve this team! Back in the summer when David Lee was being dangled all over the league, it seems like somehow that 9 mil TPE could have put him in Nuggets blue. We have to at least take a chance, take a risk, do whatever you have to do to make this a championship team, because as currently assembled, it’s just not going to happen and with our leader getting older, time is of the essence!!!

So I guess in the end, its just going to be more Mile High Heartbreak. I'm sure we can all look forward to another quality run in the playoffs, but is that what it's all about? Winning a round or two and then getting thumped, or do you want to win a title? Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I’m a realist, I know my hoops and I know lots of pain from being a fan of this team for so long.

So Mr. Kroenke, if you’re not in it to win it, take a hike! I’m sure there’s some small town in Montana that needs a Wal-Mart. I for one am not spending any more money at the Pepsi Center this year. I don't condone your actions. I will still go when pops invites me with the season tix though. :-) But I will consume pregame bevies at Brooklyn's and not support your over priced suds until you man up and give us what we want and deserve.

BTW………

I know some of you are going to be all up in arms about this, and say that we should be happy that we are as good as we are after all of these futile years, but that is just a loser mentality that most of us have come to accept around here. Well yeah, I agree, we should be happy that these aren’t the Paul Westhead Nuggets, but at the same time after being the laughing stock of the NBA  and sticking by the Nugs for all these years and knowing how close we are, I think that we all deserve a lot more than what Stan and the Management are giving us. My true, passionate Nuggets fans that actually know a thing or two about basketball, I’m sure will feel my pain.

 

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i hear ya

i’m frustrated with stan/FO also. denver should have took the risk and drafted blair and we would’nt be talking about this problem now. the blair situation is what really makes me made we could of had him. rookies sign for cheap so we whould not worrie about money there plus we would of got another big and after seeing what he did at the rookie allstar game makes me want to cry to see what denver passed up on. that was our 4th big gone to the spurs of all places.and i just don’t see them picking one up tell this summer. so ya stan/FO dropped the ball this year as far as getting us some help in the big dept.

by tknuckle on Feb 20, 2010 5:37 AM MST reply actions  

Yeah,

It was real tough watching Blair BEAST, during that Rook/Soph game!!! That would have been some draft had we picked up him and Lawson! But Sergi Llull, a 6’3" 176 pound PG from Real Madrid was much more of what we needed with the 34th pick and he has been a great contributor off the bench this season for us. lol. Plus he is more of what we needed anyways for going up against the Lakers, Cavs, Celts and Magic. We were already set with BIGS.

Maybe we will luck out with somebody being bought out in the next couple days, but it’s not looking very good.

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 6:05 AM MST up reply actions  

sorry to rain on your parade

stan owns brooklynn’s AND braun’s.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Feb 20, 2010 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

haha

You motor boatin SOB nohoops4u, I guess we will have to just go sans brew or flask it. :-)

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 6:00 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

hmmmmm

What’s the over/under, on whether the 1 “Absolutely NOT” vote so far is from Bret Bearup?

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 6:11 AM MST reply actions  

Wow long ass rant...

but i agree with a lot what you said, and im frustrated too… but it only happens after these kind of loses… and to the FO’s credit, we had nothing to offer teams… no1 was just gna give us another players… the only player i am mad at them about is stephen jackson…. if they didnt use the big TPE on Afflalo and use the smaller one (which they should have) we would have been able to get SJAX but no, we didnt…. also why would they just throw away a first to dump hunter so early… I guarantee u, that if we kept both the pick and hunter by the deadline Chicago would have accepted Hunter, the first and Graham for Tyrus Thomas…. these are the kind of things that piss me off

by hvino on Feb 20, 2010 10:17 AM MST reply actions  

And only part of the MLE was used on Afflalo

The MLE portion was only a portion of the deal to make salaries match; otherwise Afflalo was acquired via trade.

And you’re right Hunter serves no value as a player; but his expiring contract would have been extremely valuable to teams. Plus the 1st round pick they burned as part of the Hunter salary dump could’ve been the difference in a trade.

Maxi Miner Rules!!!
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"

by the word on Feb 20, 2010 1:35 PM MST up reply actions  

also Brandon, about your Sergio Llull comment,

he was traded to Houston if you didnt know…. for 3 mill cash witch was used to keep the Bird

by hvino on Feb 20, 2010 10:18 AM MST reply actions  

yeah it was sarcasm

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 3:22 PM MST up reply actions  

no kidding

But have you read some of their posts when they are serious as well? I think that answers our question as to why they don’t get it. ha

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 3:38 PM MST up reply actions  

stan kroenke is the leader in sport entertainment

stan and phil anschutz of AIG have joined forces in order to operate the broomfield events center. they have already signed 2 teams for womens’ roller derby. during the worst financial climate since the great depression stan is pulling out all the stops to make denver, colorado the center of the womens’ roller derby universe. i bet mark cuban can never say that.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Feb 20, 2010 8:39 PM MST up reply actions  

WHAT?!?!

You are losing major cred…..this is a NUGGETS fan blog. Not women’s roller derby and how great you think Stan is because of all of his ventures. What is going on here???

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 10:24 PM MST up reply actions  

It's all Stan

He has the FO’s hands tied. He may be right to expect the guys currently on the roster to step up and earn their money, but it’s hard to do that if you’re injured and on the bench. We need some additional quality players even if we can stay healthy if we are to get over the hump! I also agree that it the luxury tax hit could easily be offset by more playoff revenue. Brandon, you are right about the window of opportunity too. I think Stan is as stubborn as they come and I wouldn’t expect that to change anytime soon.

by BroncosRock! on Feb 20, 2010 11:25 AM MST reply actions  

Short Arm Stan

I remember when the press was playing him out as this champion owner. The reality is:

  • He was a minority owner of the St. Louis Rams. He had no influence with their Super Bowl win.
  • He bought an already cup-ready contender in the Avs. Would the Kroenke owned Avs really have won a cup if Pierre Lacroix wasn’t here?

Every step the Nugs do make is followed at least 2 cost cutting steps backwards. Example:

  • Trade for Iverson. 1)Dump Boykins salary for Blake. 2)Sign cheaper Atkins rather than Blake. 3)Make no significant player acquisition during Iverson’s time here. 4)Trade Camby for nothing in return
    *Trade for Billups. 1)Buyout McDyess. 2)Don’t use Camby TE, 3)Dump Hunter’s expiring contract & a 1st round pick for nothing. 4)Make no significant player acquisition during Billups time here.

Maxi Miner Rules!!!
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"

by the word on Feb 20, 2010 1:16 PM MST up reply actions  

you are one of these "make a move just to make it" guys

of all those teams you listed that made moves, is even one of them better this year than last? I don’t think I can make a case for any of them (okay maybe Cleveland)-we’ll see about the post-deadline mavs, but I’m still not scared of them.

And how many championships has Cuban’s spendthrift ways bought him?

I am deeply frustrated, but not at the FO-they have done a stellar job, and we still may pick up Z/Gooden. I am mad that we have possibly the most talented team in the league that is on the verge of blowing the division and possibly their playoff chances because they are too immature to show up against bad teams.

by Rainbow skyline on Feb 20, 2010 1:05 PM MST reply actions  

Cleveland lost last nite to a bad team too

Every NBA team, good bad or great, lose the 2nd half of back to backs. It’s not the Nuggets… it’s everybody… even the Lakers Cavs & Celtics.

There is a direct relation to not improving your team and losing your division lead.

The answer to your question about Cuban is the Mavericks have not won a title.

However!!! the Mavs did go to the championship series before losing. The Mavericks also consistently go deeper in the playoffs than just losing in the 1st round.

So now the questions are:
1) How many times have the Nuggets made it to the NBA title series?
2) Besides last year, how many times have these Nuggets made it past the 1st round of the playoffs?

Maxi Miner Rules!!!
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"

by the word on Feb 20, 2010 1:22 PM MST up reply actions  

charlotte is a semi-talented .500 team

washington probably just passed NJ as the least talented team in the league. and PLENTY of teams are able to win their back-to-backs. only the nugs make it seem like a near-impossible feat. nugs are 6-7 in 2nd legs of b2bs this year. I don’t have the inclination to look, but I bet other elite teams are well above .500 in those games. It’s just an excuse.

by Rainbow skyline on Feb 20, 2010 1:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Only because the Nugs are the local team

does it look like they suffer more than other teams in the back to back.

The Cavs were on a home/away back to back. The back end of the east is horrible. Why is one team given a pass while the sky is falling for the other.

Cleveland lost to Charlotte: no excuse, stupid loss
Denver lost to Washington: no excuse, stupid loss

Denver destroyed the Mavs before the break: for the Mavs stupid loss.

Great teams lose stupid games. The 1972 Lakers are long retired (33 straight wins)

Maxi Miner Rules!!!
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"

by the word on Feb 20, 2010 2:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Cleveland is still a lock to finsh first in the east

nugs are in a dogfight for the division and either being in good playoff position or crappy position. moreover, I wouldn’t be as angry if this weren’t a consistent pattern. We can’t chalk up this loss to being gassed or having a random off-night because we’ve seen this all year. It’s simply a lack of focus and maturity.

Nugs still have a chance to do great things because I’m not worried about their ability to get up for the playoffs. But they seem intent on making things hard on themselves.

by Rainbow skyline on Feb 20, 2010 2:19 PM MST up reply actions  

also

theyd be more fresh for the playoffs if they werent logging so many damn minutes every game.

1. gk’s tight rotation
2. the player’s inability to shut a crappy team down early like they should.

by 808inDenver on Feb 20, 2010 2:37 PM MST up reply actions  

well,

I’m actually a make a move because we still aren’t good enough to beat the Lakers in a seven game series. Be delusional if you want, but it’s the truth.

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 3:25 PM MST up reply actions  

I just never heard a deadline trade suggestion that was a) realistic and b) improved the team

it’s easy to complain we didn’t make a move, but realize we had almost no bargaining chips-not even a first rounder. we went for tyrus, but he would have cost us JR-that doesn’t make us better. nene for amare is not the way to address our front line depth/rebounding issues. I’ll admit nene for bosh is intriguing (not sure if toronto would go for it), but a huge risk-we would likely be renting bosh for the playoffs, so it’s either championship or bust.

by Rainbow skyline on Feb 20, 2010 3:55 PM MST up reply actions  

The point I

was trying to make is that at the end of the day, we are still playing for 2nd place. The FO has refused to do anything to address the elephant in the room. It’s the TPE’s that really frustrate me. Whether it was arrogance, thinking that they already had enough or Stan being cheap, that 9 million dollar exception, needed to be used to address matching up with Bynum, Gasol, and Odom!

Basically Melo, Chauncey, and Maybe Kenyon are untouchable. Whoever else you have to move to put yourself in front of the Lakers, can be traded. It’s not like were breaking up a “dynasty!” Take a chance, because our only other option is Kobe tearing his ACL, and that is just to get out of the west. Then you have to deal with Boston, Cleveland and Orlando’s size.

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 4:10 PM MST up reply actions  

fair enough, I guess we just disagree that we are playing for 2nd place

if we can stay healthy and learn to focus for every game (although I’m getting sick of waiting for that to happen), we have a decent shot at LA. two blowouts in two games has to count for something.

by Rainbow skyline on Feb 20, 2010 4:25 PM MST up reply actions  

The Lakers

are coming off of winning a Championship. They are in coast mode, more less a championship hangover. I wouldn’t put too much weight in a couple of regular season wins at this point. I love to see them win those games and it can only help Denver’s confidence going forward, but a veteren team like the Lakers, knows what they are doing. When playoff time comes they will flip the switch and it will be a different story. Their PG situation is greatly exposed versus the Nuggets though. Lawson can be the difference if he has a huge series vs them with his speed, he runs circles around Fisher, and Farmar.

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 4:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Sad part is they

are coasting and are still 42-14 and 5.5 games ahead of us with only 27 games left in the season.

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 4:46 PM MST up reply actions  

the elephant in the room is the economy

these are not normal finacial times we live in. the st.louis rams- have a new majority owner. he lives in champainge, illinois and was born in pakistan. the english premiere soccer legue is now a financial black hole. the avalanche had a losing season and is rebuilding with young players. in spite of the hockey team’s success the pepsi center struggles to fill seats. stan has the soccer complex in commerce city and the prairie center in brighton. AIG and kroenke sports enterprise have combined forces to take over the management of the broomfield events center. it is very desingenous to mention mark cuban where the subject is spending money. cuban is a one trick poney. he does not own the arena his team plays in. for all the money cuban spends he went to the finals one time and lost. what happens to the mavs when dirk is gone? i see denver being good after kmart and cb1 are gone.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Feb 20, 2010 6:42 PM MST up reply actions  

We

As Nuggets fans we shouldn’t have to suffer for all of those other business’ that I care nothing about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Soccer, Hockey, the Broomfield events center, etc……. So because Stan owns a bunch of other things, we can’t go over the luxury tax and get one more marque player? WOW!!!! What an F’ing JOKE!!!!!!!!!

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 10:21 PM MST up reply actions  

i forgot to mention

roller derby

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Feb 21, 2010 12:43 AM MST up reply actions  

"Cointelpro" for KSE????

Did someone hack your account or do you now receive a paycheck from KSE? I normally agree with a lot of what you say, but all this propaganda and praising of Kroenke because he is some entertainment empire has me shaking my head. Who gives a $hi+! I want an owner that is committed to this team and wants to win! So basically, since Stan is involved in so many projects, he is spread too thin, and with the down economy, his potentially successful franchise (Nuggets) can’t spend money because the Avalanche can’t fill the arena or some soccer club is struggling or because he has to support an events center or a woman’s roller derby team?

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 21, 2010 1:41 AM MST up reply actions  

that puts it into a nutshell

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Feb 21, 2010 2:18 AM MST up reply actions  

Quick Clarification... but otherwise you're preaching to the choir

The $9mm trade exception was from the Camby trade, not from the Iverson/Billups deal. That doesn’t make things any better because that means the Nuggets traded Camby…. FOR NOTHING… arrrrgh.

The ugliness from the Iverson/Billup trade was that it was actually Iverson for Billups & McDyess. And the team chose to buyout McDyess rather than have him on the team to help win a title.

My problem with the limited moves the Nugs made was all they did was swap parts (re-sign Bird, Afflalo over Dahntay, drafting a rookie…finally!!!) that’s not improving the team. Improving the team is getting the missing piece or pieces.

Instead they chose to cut costs… Yes I’m sure it’s at the direction of the owner

Maxi Miner Rules!!!
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"

by the word on Feb 20, 2010 1:06 PM MST reply actions  

Nope,

It was from the Billups/ Iverson deal.

Here’s the Camby one. The Camby trade was in July of 2008 and the exceptions last for 1 year. And that exception was for 10 mil.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3491156

The Nuggets traded Iverson, for Billups on November 3rd 2008, hence why the 9 Mil exception that I am talking about expired on November 3rd 2009.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=denverend-090530

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 3:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Remember this Pearl of Wisdom from Penny Wise and Pound Foolish

With the Nuggets in reach of a their 1st Title in their 33year NBA history…

The Nuggets will have traded:

  • Marcus Camby
  • Chucky Atkins
  • Stephen Hunter
  • 1st Round Pick
  • 1st Round Pick

For:

  • Johan Petro

Maxi Miner Rules!!!
"Remember the Alamo", "Remember the Maine", "Remember the Hunter Trade"
"Contenders commit to building a champion; pretenders end up getting bit right on their pick axe"

by the word on Feb 20, 2010 1:29 PM MST reply actions  

Now that’s funny!!!!!!

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 3:36 PM MST up reply actions  

It's also not true

Shedding Camby’s salary allowed us to acquire Billups. Trading Atkins got us below the luxury tax, netting the team an additional $4+ million dollars in tax payment (not to mention the 3 they saved for not having to pay the dollar-for-dollar tax), allowing the Nuggets to comfortably resign Bird and trade for Lawson.

It’s easy to shout ignorant from a fanpost about what the team should have done without knowing the goals set forth by Stan Kroenke.

The team is losing money. It’s not your place to suggest they lose more money so they can acquire a player who won’t crack a firmly-set rotation.

by rosenthal on Feb 21, 2010 3:38 PM MST up reply actions  

????

What are you talking about? Shedding Iverson’s 20 million, allowed us to get Billups. Detroit had to throw in Mcdyess just to make the numbers work. Shouting ingnorance?? Get some facts first.

The team is losing money?? Can you prove this statement?
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/32/basketball-values-09_NBA-Team-Valuations_Revenue.html

Oh and Chris Bosh or David Lee, guys mentioned in the post wouldn’t have cracked the rotation? Get a clue!

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 21, 2010 5:55 PM MST up reply actions  

front office has only 2 issues with me

the 1st is karl’s contract extension. it should have been settled before the season-one way or the other. the 2nd was the BIG BERTHA statement. i would not have had a problem with the front office saying at the start of the year this is out team. do not expect any changes. i may not have liked it or agreed but at least the fans knew where the front office stood on the issue. if stan did not want to win or not spend money he had his chance with earl smith. he could have suspended him, traded for draft picks, saved 6 million for salary cap purposes and gotten 4 million from the nba for being under the cap. the statement i agree with wark and give him credit when he explained away the camby trade-CHESS MOVES.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Feb 20, 2010 6:43 PM MST reply actions  

It’s funny that you mention the “big bertha” comment, because I was just thinking about that earlier.

They positioned themselves very well to bring in that final piece with the Camby TPE or the Billups/Iverson one, but did nothing. It’s disheartening!

Brandon Kite

by Brandon Kite on Feb 20, 2010 7:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Not a lot of players were available that early in the season

I think teams were kinda waiting to see how their season was going to play out. Had Tyrus Thomas been available before “big bertha” expired I think the front office may mave had more leverage to pull something off. But really the only player that got moved early in the season was Stephen Jackson. I know quite a few people on here wanted the FO to pull out a deal for Jackson, but we’d still be looking for one more big.

by NuggetsLife on Feb 23, 2010 4:33 PM MST up reply actions  

Stan is a businessman

And I really don’t blame him for it.

"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
""He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
"We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
"I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
"We're just tough, man" - Chauncey Billups

by LACK on Feb 26, 2010 10:36 AM MST reply actions  

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