How our deadline plays out...
by hvino on Feb 17, 2010 4:46 PM MST
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PrintSo basically we have been mentioned with almost every back up big in the league... well i want to point some things out... basically if you go to hoopshype it says that the Nuggets struck out with Thomas because the Bulls GM doesnt want our scrubs.... bummer
Then there's another article saying we have asked about kurt thomas and hakim warrick both from the bucks....
While yest. i commented Drew Gooden will most likely be bought out, which was also from hoopshype, They listed us Charlotte, Dallas (after 30 days) and i think Milwauke
Now today on hoops hype it has two interesting things,
1. It appears as we could get Mccdyess if we want him, but idk hes old and i dont think we wna pay him twice
2. Apparently the Cavs are on the verge of aquiring Jamison in a 3 team trade that sends Gooden west, instead of him being bought out heres the source:
Twitter of Michael Lee, Wiz writer
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Source told me that the Wizards are closing in on a 3-team trade that will send Antawn Jamison to CLE and Drew Gooden to a Western Conf team |
So idk what other team it would be in the west that got Gooden but it could possibly be us...
UPDATE: THE THIRD TEAM IS THE CLIPPERS ACCORDING TO THIS TWEET
http://twitter.com/wojyahooNBA
Personally i hope we some how manage to get thomas, but idk.... if we cant get anything i say we trade for MccDyess at the last minutes or if not hope which ever team Gooden gets traded to gets bought out
2nd EDIT: WELL THE CLIPPERS ARE PLANNING TO BUYOUT GOODENS CONTRACT ACCORDING TO A TWEET POSTED ON HOOPSHYPE, i cant copy it, its not letting me... so if you dont believe me check hoopshype.com
Later it lists Charlotte, Milwauke and Denver as suitors.... as well as a return to Dallas
3rd Edit: I know this isnt directly linked to denver, but by ways it can be... according to David Aldrige, Salmons is prob heading to Milwauke for Kurt Thomas and Elson... I think this is actually good for denver in two ways... It means that Chicago wont get McGrady meaning there is a chance (prob small now) that we get Tyrus Thomas **fingers crossed... The other thing i could see is, Chicago buying out Kurts contract b/c he wont play much there... they already have miller and noah.... so mayb we could get Kurt if all else fails
Source about Salmons:
TNT's David Aldridge has more on the John Salmons saga. Sources say the Bulls' swingman could be headed to the Bucks in a deal that's close to being completed.
HANG TIME HEADQUARTERS -- A league source tells TNT's David Aldridge that the Chicago Bulls are close to a deal to send swingman John Salmons to the Milwaukee Bucks for forward Kurt Thomas and center Francisco Elson.
The move would bring back two expiring contracts to the Bulls in exchange for Salmons, who has one year (a player option) remaining, at more than $5 million. This would allow the Bulls to pursue a max-level free agent this summer, the team's goal throughout this season.
The Bucks would get a starter in Salmons at small forward for the rest of this season and next, without sacrificing cap room for the summer of 2011, when the Bucks plan to be active in free agency.
Trading Salmons alone also signals Chicago is likely out of the running for Houston's Tracy McGrady, as Salmons was supposed to be part of that deal.
Source from NBA.com
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For the record, David Aldridge, whom I trust the most is saying the Clips won’t buy out Gooden, they will keep him. So yeah, maybe this could open the door for us to get Jordan.
"Jive turkey is a little over the line my man!"
by GoldenNugget on Feb 17, 2010 6:34 PM MST up reply actions
No on McDyess
Trading for McDyess allows S.A. to get Thomas. No.
insidehoops.com
reports that the Cavs landed Jamison. The deal includes Gooden to the Clippers.
This just in:
The Denver Nuggets decided that they don’t need to make any kind of trade because they’re good enough.
That’s not a real highlight, but it is what it is. >:/
and/or
…they have no viable pieces to trade.
Yea it's b/c
They have nothing that any teams want. A total of 3 mil in expirings, a nice contract in Balkman and TPE worh 3.7 mil that can’t be combined for anything. That’s not gonna get you a player that’s a difference maker unless that is someones last possible option.
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
by Garrett Olsen on Feb 17, 2010 5:35 PM MST up reply actions
Yea TT would be awesome
But i see him landing in SA…especially if SA finds a way to dish Mason off somehwere which Memphis is interested.
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
by Garrett Olsen on Feb 17, 2010 5:45 PM MST up reply actions
i think the clips buy out gooden
They are playing for next year at this point. They think they can get Camby back during the summer but also want Jordan to get experience now. They buy out Gooden for the same reason they traded Z-Bo: they expect Griffin to be healthy next year and don’t have room for more pf’s. The only way we get a back up big is by signing one after a buyout. Gooden is our best bet. He’s undersized, but he rebounds well and is a proven scorer off the bench. Unfortunately, you never really know what the Clippers will do.
by adub on Feb 17, 2010 6:25 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Gooden's on an expiring...
No need to buy him out to make room for Griffin…just don’t re-sign him next year.
by 12-piece Nuggets on Feb 18, 2010 12:13 PM MST up reply actions
A buy out
could save them 1-2 mil if he agrees to take a buy out 1-2 mil less of his contract to go ply for another team ie they save money this year.
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
by Garrett Olsen on Feb 18, 2010 12:25 PM MST up reply actions
Gooden already said he won't take a buy out
I read it over on yahoo.
by Joelsopinion on Feb 18, 2010 12:32 PM MST up reply actions
This is so frustrating
For the second time this year while all the good teams are getting even better by making moves, the Nuggets are standing pat. Who knows, maybe we are fine as is, but insurance is always nice.
"Jive turkey is a little over the line my man!"
^^like i said...
THE clips are buying out gooden… they only traded for him to dump thorton and telfair…
According to David Aldridge
The Clips AREN’T going to buy out his contract.
"Jive turkey is a little over the line my man!"
by GoldenNugget on Feb 17, 2010 7:53 PM MST up reply actions
I feel like standing pat isnt the best decision...
especially considering that we’ve had some injuries this year…
Hoopshype is saying
that the Clippers will not buy out Gooden they plan to keep him…great
There are 3 posts on hoopshype regarding Gooden's buyout...
2/3 say he will be bought out…
1/3 says he will be a clip
even if he is bought out he wants to go back to dallas because he's tired of moving
and his best friend DeShawn Stevenson now plays on that team.
However, with the rockets-bulls deal falling through,nuggies still have a shot at Thomas.
Why not
try to get involved in the Amare to Miami deal. We could land Haslem in that. I’m not sure what all we’d have to give up but it would be worth a shot.
So I'm trying to make note of our current options
1.) Make another play for TT (this seems like the top priority, both to improve our team and to keep him away from SA) yet this seems unlikely at this point since the bulls have no need for balkman, allen, ect.
2.) Get mcdyess (spelled right?) And risk the spurs landing tyrus thomas. I don’t especially like this one since he is older and doesn’t exactly want to play here.
3.) Pick up either kurt thomas(likely going elsewhere) or hakim warrick from the bucks. I would love thomas, but I’m not too familiar with the other guy
4.)Try to get ben wallace( a solid vet who has experience playing with chauncey). I think he would be a solid 9th man but have heard that we couldn’t acquire him.
5.) Hope that drew gooden becomes a free agent(who will most likely stay with the clips)
Any others? I like the haslem idea from above, what do you guys think? I am hoping we get someone soon
by Cargo5 on Feb 17, 2010 7:35 PM MST via mobile reply actions
1-4 arn't happening
Those have all been shot down. The only ones I see as a possibiliy are landing Big Ben or someone else.
"Jive turkey is a little over the line my man!"
by GoldenNugget on Feb 17, 2010 7:59 PM MST up reply actions
if thomas is out of the picture
then i say we target Warrick. Skiles likes Malik Allen so let’s return him to wear he belongs – taco-less Milwaukee. Warrick is relatively young and effective. He’s built in the mold of K-Mart, just needs his toughness.
I wonder
If Denver is going to wait till the last second before they do/say anything. I’d be shocked if they got a big time trade right at the end.
WTF Chicago?
So they wouldn’t trade us Thomas for expirings but they would Salmons? What the hell is the difference? Both arn’t playing well but at least Salmons actually played. This makes no sense. Maybe we still could get Thomas for expirings because the Bulls would then be 25 mil under the cap next season.
"Jive turkey is a little over the line my man!"
Yea but
Thomas’ contract is up anyways… they don’t have to trad him.. I think since TT wont be on the roster ex year regardless, they are trying to trade and get something sig. in return apposed to letting him walk for nothing ie why Chicago wants a pick along with expirings. The only way Denver lands TT is if they cough up a pick and give up all expiring contracts and no other team wants him by the last minute of the deadline. I don’t think Denver is gonna do anything.
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
by Garrett Olsen on Feb 17, 2010 8:11 PM MST up reply actions
Well
Salmons was dealt to the Bucks for expirings so now Chicago dosn’ have to put Salmons with TT in a deal putting Denver back into the mix. The only team they have to beat out is SA in which they can’t unless SA decides no on TT or trades for another big elsewhere.
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
Free Agent Options
Kurt Thomas will be bought out from Chicago.
Big Z is expected to be bought out from Washington
Drew Gooden may or may not be bought out.
Dallas will either try to resign Gooden or go after Big Z. If they resign Gooden, Big Z could be a def. possibility or Kurt Thomas. Things are going to be very interesting even past the Deadline. With Jamison in Clev now along wih Shaq, Hickson and big V, I don’t see big Z going back to Clev. I see him wanting to sign with a contender looking for a big Ie. Dallas and Denver.
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
Do you think it's possible?
Good evening, this is my first post on Denver Stiffs. I’m from Rio de Janeiro – Brazil and became a Nuggets fan since we sign Nenê a few years ago…
I really think that he’s a much better PF than C, but speaking only about the games i saw on tv… Nenê is doing a great job at C position. Do you guy’s don’t think it’s “unfair” this endless chase for a Center??
I used for the first time (too) the Espn Trade Machine. What do you think about this 3 teams trade?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yhaq5fr
Miami acquire – Stoudemire
Phoenix acquire – Q. Richardson; Malik Allen; C. Andersen and Renaldo Balkman
Nuggets – C. Frye and U. Haslem
Possible or not?
Greetings from Rio,
Raphael
Welcome to the site
But I’m sorry this city loves chris “the birdman” andersen, he isn’t going anywhere
by Cargo5 on Feb 17, 2010 8:36 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Not to mention
No one wants to take his back loaded contract. He’s due 5 mil this year, and like 7 mil for the 2 years following. He’s 32 now, no one wants to be paying a 35 year old bench player 7 mil a year. Not happening unless he’s packaged with Ty, JR, or Melo and that aint happening either.
by Joelsopinion on Feb 18, 2010 9:35 AM MST up reply actions
Nice Idea
But I don’t think PHX wants to trade Frye either.
"Don't chase the money, chase the dream"
by Garrett Olsen on Feb 17, 2010 8:40 PM MST up reply actions
Nice trade and post
I think all the teams in that deal would be satisfied except maybe for Phoenix. I don’t think they want to give up Frye right now with the way he is playing. Also, Birdman is too important to the chemistry and heart of this team so I don’t see him being shopped either. Personally, I would do that though, in a heartbeat too.
"Jive turkey is a little over the line my man!"
by GoldenNugget on Feb 17, 2010 8:42 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks
I don’t have this view about Birdman, maybe (problably) because i only watch nuggets games from tv or internet, here far from Brazil i think he’s a good team player, nothing more.
I believe that Nenê can give us a NBA Championship if he had a better bench at C position.
Anyway… Let’s wait and see what FO will do next hours…
People just love Birdman because of the story
You know he was out of the league from drugs, got reinstated and had an incredible season last year with the rejections. But as of right now, your right, he really isn’t anything too special. I like him, and don’t want to trade him but if it made us better I wouldn’t complain.
"Jive turkey is a little over the line my man!"
by GoldenNugget on Feb 17, 2010 9:10 PM MST up reply actions
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