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Grading Wark

As the trade deadline approaches and with the possibility of the Nuggets making a move to acquire another big man, I thought I would take the time to look back at how Wark has done in his time in charge. Also, it's just fun to look at how we got to where we are today.  I'll give my grade and thoughts both at the time (AT) (trying to be as honest as I can) and in hindsight (HS) on the significant transactions of the Wark era. I'll leave out any transactions that had zero impact on the Nuggets, such as signing summer league players and such, and no-brainers like picking up rookie options. (Just as a side note, how hard is it for ESPN, the NBA, or anyone for that matter to keep an accurate list of a team's transactions? Apparently impossible. If you know of an accurate site that would be appreciated. If I didn't follow every detail of the Nuggets during every waking moment of my life and instead tried to rely on any one list, I'd be missing all kinds of stuff. The ESPN site inexplicably misses stuff as basic as both the AI and Billups trades. Hoopshype is good, but not perfect.) Joined the Nuggets in the summer of 2005 as Director of Player Personnel May 5, 2006, Nuggets part way with Kiki, the beginning of the Wark era.

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June 29, 2006 Traded the rights to forward Leon Powe to the Boston Celtics for a 2007 second-round pick.
AT: D I love the draft, and we traded out of it entirely. I also thought Powe looked like a decent player.
HS: B+ Although Powe turned out to be an NBA player (with injury concerns, which is what caused him to drop in the first place), this was one of the picks Wark used to get JR.

July 13, 2006 Signed forward Carmelo Anthony to a multi-year contract extension.
AT: A A no-brainer, but getting Melo to commit to that extra year was huge.
HS: A I'm glad we've got Melo on board next year. If he was up this year, he probably would get caught up in all the hype with his buddies Bron and Wade and potentially leave town. But I worry somebody (New York) is going to miss out on all the free agents this year and have a ton of money to throw at Melo next year. Wark has got to get Melo to sign an extension before he hits the market. I think the timing will be good though, as Melo might have to worry about a new CBA in 2011 and so be willing to commit early rather than risk unfavorable new CBA terms.

July 20, 2006 Nuggets re-signed restricted free agent Nene to a multi-year contract
AT: B A no-brainer to re-sign him in my opinion, even with all of the injuries. And I thought he would be worth the money they gave him. But it sure seemed like they had the opportunity to get a better deal than they did.
HS: B Despite early injuries, I think he has been worth every penny. But if they paid him less, we might have had more money for other things.

July 21, 2006 Acquired guard J.R. Smith from the Chicago Bulls for guard Howard Eisley and two second-round picks.
AT: B I loved this trade because I remembered when the Nuggets looked at JR coming out of high school. He supposedly wowed the brass by hitting shots from anywhere out to half court, but he was drafted before we picked (and then we traded our pick, of course). And we gave up nothing of note.
HS: A JR has been better than anyone could have expected. Sure, he is still inconsistent. But he gives this team the chance to be truly elite.

July 27, 2006 Signed forward Yakhouba Diawara.
AT: INC I don't remember having any reaction to this signing.
HS: B Not a remarkable player, but ended up playing quite a bit.

August 11, 2006 Acquired forward Joe Smith from the Milwaukee Bucks for guard-forward Ruben Patterson.
AT: A I loved this trade. Patterson was a marginally talented swingman and a head case;  Smith, a quality, veteran big man. How could the Bucks make this trade?  Am I missing something?
HS: A  Joe Smith became an important component of the AI trade, who in turn became Billups.

Elevated to Vice President of Basketball Operations on Sept. 7, 2006

September 8, 2005 Denver re-signs unrestricted free agent Reggie Evans.
AT: D A high hussle, great rebounding, big bodied big man with absolutely no offensive skills. But that incident in the playoffs? Embarrasing. (Look up Reggie Evans and Manly Touch)
HS: F Turned into Hunter, who turned into us giving Memphis our 1st round pick this year to take him.

October 16, 2006 Signed guard DerMarr Johnson.
See Diawara, above. I would note that DerMarr's best quality was that he was an absolute AI stopper. Which made him almost entirely valueless when the Nuggets subsequently acquired AI.

December 19, 2006 Nuggets acquire Allen Iverson and Ivan McFarlin from Philadelphia in exchange for Andre Miller, Joe Smith and two 1st round selections in the 2007 Draft.
AT: A As much as I loved Miller, I have always been a huge AI fan. And I really enjoyed his time here, though the team was fundamentally flawed by not having a quality point guard or wing to complement AI's deficiencies.

January 11, 2007 PG Steve Blake Traded For E Boykins, J Hodge, and cash.
AT: F I loved Boykins. And I had no respect for Blake.
HS: B Opened up more time for JR, and Blake actually played pretty well next to AI, much better than Boykins could have.

July 17, 2007 Signed guard Chucky Atkins.
AT: B I thought he would be a good fit as a shooting point.
HS: D Never gave us anything of note. He and a first round pick eventually turned into Petro and 3 million dollars (plus no luxury tax last year).

August 31, 2007 Signed guard Anthony Carter.
AT: INC I didn't know that I would one day rue the day the Nuggets gave AC a guaranteed contract.
HS: F--- Western Conference Finals. As I am writing this, AC is inexplicably in the Sacramento game, missing a wide open break away layup. And a wide open three.

September 11, 2007 Acquired center Steven Hunter and forward Bobby Jones from the Philadelphia 76ers for forward Reggie Evans and the draft rights to forward Ricky Sanchez.
AT: B I liked this trade because I remembered a healthier Hunter from his time on the Suns. And I didn't like Evans (Manly Touch)
HS: C Hunter gave us nothing and cost us next years first round draft pick to dump on Memphis. But we would probably have had to do the same with Evans.

June 25, 2008 Traded the 20th overall draft pick to Charlotte for a future protected first round pick.
AT: C I love the draft. I wish we would participate more often. Here, I liked DeAndre Jordan and anybody who was not AC playing point (ie Chalmers)
HS: B We got Billups shortly thereafter and the pick turned into Lawson. But what if that had been Chalmers out there instead of AC in the WCF? Still, Lawson is awesome and we are better off in the long run.

June 25, 2008 Traded a 2009 second round pick to the Portland TrailBlazers for Sonny Weems
AT: B I didn't really understand this, but Weems seemed like an increadible athlete with upside.
HS: D Weems didn't amount to anything.

July 15, 2008 Traded Marcus Camby to the Los Angeles Clippers for NOTHING, i.e., the right to switch second round picks
AT: B+ At this point, I believed that Camby was killing us on both offense, and more damningly, on defense. On offense, Camby jacked up those terrible long jump shots, particularly in crunch time. And if he wasn't invovled, his effort level dropped. On defense, he killed the team defense by not not switching, not showing on pick and rolls, and generally just standing under the basket and going for his own stats, ie blocked shots and rebounds. I thought we might be able to get something more for him, but this was definitely addition by subtraction. And it really cleaned up the balance sheet, giving the Nuggets a much more reasonable allocation of payroll.
HS: B The trade exception got recycled through the Billups trade and part of it turned into Afflalo before it expired. I like Afflalo, but wonder if something more wasn't available. If the Billups trade couldn't have gone through without the exception (I'm a little hazy on the details of how it was invovled in that trade), then this turns into an A.

July 24, 2008 Signed forward Chris Anderson.
AT: B I liked Birdman from his first stint with the Nuggets and thought he could replace the shot blocking Camby provided without all of the Camby negatives.
HS: A Exceeded all expectations. I now own a complete set of Birdman glasses from Arby's as my primary drinking glasses.

July 28, 2008 Acquired forward Renaldo Balkman from the New York Knicks for guard Taurean Green, forward Bobby Jones and a 2010 second round draft pick.
AT: INC I didn't really have any feelings about this trade at the time, other than I knew that for as bad as Isaiah was at every other aspect of being a GM, he had a pretty good eye for talent.
HS: C Balkman has been a decent energy man off the bench in very limited minutes.

July 31, 2008 Signed guard-forward Dahntay Jones.
See Diawara, above.

August 23, 2008 Signed guard J.R. Smith to a multi-year contract.
AT: A I love JR, and this was a totally fair contract for his services, factoring in his inconsistency.
HS: A Still a great contract and an important component of this team. Also, as a side note, he is going to get better this year. He always starts out slow and then heats up in the second half of the season.

October 3, 2008 Signed forward Juwan Howard
AT: B I'm a Howard fan. I think he, even now, is a serviceable big man, who plays for the minimum. Not many of those out there.
November 3-4, 2008 Waived forward Juwan Howard.
AT: A Necessary to complete the Billups trade.
HS: F I can't believe they didn't bring Howard back. They could have used him last year and they could use him this year.

November 3, 2008 Traded guard Allen Iverson to the Detroit Pistons for guard Chauncey Billups and forward Antonio McDyess
AT: B Obviously getting Billups for AI was awesome. AI had clearly finally lost a step in preseason and the first few games. But unless waiving McDyess was an under the table part of the deal or McDyess absolutely refused to play in Denver, we should have kept him. He is still really good and might have been the difference this year or last.
HS: A Billups has been better than I ever anticipated. He has been one of the best players in the league this year. Just amazing.

January 7, 2009 Traded guard Chucky Atkins and 2009 first round pick to OKC for center Johan Petro and 2009 second round pick.
AT: B Got them under the tax, and the difference between a late first and an early second is not that much different, with the second perhaps more valuable because the contracts aren't guaranteed. Also Petro is marginally more useful then Atkins.
HS: INC Move is still fine, but the Nuggets really misused this draft pick, in my opinion, see below. Nuggets still have a trade exception from this trade that could affect this grade.

June 25, 2009 Traded conditional first round pick from Charlotte for guard Ty Lawson
AT: A Loved the Lawson pick. Perfect fit for this team.
HS: A He's been everything we could have hoped for. Currently destroying Sacramento as I write this.

June 25, 2009 Sold second round pick from OKC to the Houston Rockets for 3 million dollars.
AT: F Blair was there for the taking. How can you not use a second round pick on the most NBA ready big man in the draft when you need a big man?
HS: F The only way this makes any sense is if the Nuggets had already agreed to this long before they knew that Blair would be available. But if that is the case, they should have reserved the right to back out in case something like this happened.

July 8, 2009 Re-signed forward Chris Anderson
AT: B I'm a little conflicted about this one. Definitely wanted him back, and the per year amount is right, but the contract goes on forever. Birdman probably could have gotten more per year from someone else though, so this is probably the best that could be done to get him back.
HS: INC. Birdman has been very solid this year, and definitely worth it. But he does look like he's already lost some explosiveness. I'm not too worried though, b/c anyone as tall as he is with a pulse is tradeable at the contract numbers he has into the future.

July 13, 2009 Traded a 2011 second round pick and cash to the Detroit Pistons for guard Arron Afflalo and forward Walter Sharpe
AT: B Used part of the Camby trade exception here. Loved this as an upgrade from Jones. Afflalo is also a good defender and a better three point shooter, which fits well on this team. Jones got a rediculous contract.
HS: A Afflalo has been even better than I expected. Looked great guarding Kobe, and his shooting has really picked up of late.

July 31, 2009 Traded guard Sonny Weems, forward Walter Sharpe, and cash to the Milwaukee Bucks for forward Malik Allen.
AT: B Gave up nothing to get a potentially useful player.
HS: B- Still gave up nothing, but didn't end up getting much either.

August 7, 2009 Traded center Steven Hunter, a protected first round pick, and cash to the Memphis Grizzlies for a future conditional second round pick, i.e. nothing.
AT: D- Purely a salary dumping move, but I gotta think they could have accomplished something better with that first round pick. Plus I love the draft. So Wark must hate me, b/c once again we go into the draft with no draft picks, I believe.
HS: INC Possibly an F, if that first round pick would have allowed the Nuggets to get a quality big man. But we did get another trade exception out of this.

August 14, 2009 Re-signed guard Anthony Carter
AT: F--- I feared that Karl would play AC over Lawson b/c of his irrational man crush on AC.
HS: C- Since Karl is barely playing AC, he is now just a below average third point guard.

August 27, 2009 Re-signed center Johan Petro
AT: C Couldn't they have spent some of this money on keeping their pick and taking Blair?
HS: INC

September 26, 2009 Signed forward Joey Graham
AT: C Never been that big of a fan.
HS: B Has proven somewhat useful so far.

November 1, 2009 Signed forward Renaldo Balkman to a contract extension
AT: B A high energy guy who seemed to make good things happen off the bench.
HS: INC/C He has looked worse this season than last in very limited minutes.

Overall, Wark has done so much better than Kiki that it is not even funny. My suggestion for his next move: Use a trade exception to acquire Fabricio Oberto from the Wizards. A low cost veteran big man who is great in the locker room and has championship experience. I'd feel better turning to Oberto rather than Petro if we need another big man against the Lakers.

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A+

Nuff said. Took the Nuggets from perennial one-and-done to contenders in just 3 years. Virtually unheard of.

Swats.

by BeefySwats on Feb 1, 2010 10:43 PM MST reply actions  

timeline

Its hard as shit to follow ur timeline when u go backwards the foward then backward etc… good read from what i could gather

by RPN on Feb 1, 2010 11:47 PM MST reply actions  

nm

Nevermind me. Just forgot to put 2006 instead you put 2005 next to a sept date. I’m tired and slow :(

by RPN on Feb 1, 2010 11:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Great Read

Do consider Wark works with Rex and the other dude, his name starts with a B (sorry I can’t think of it at the moment). But the Nuggets FO has by far been the best in the last 3 years along with LA (the whole Gasol deal was unreal). But I give them an A+ as well and I hope the FO lands us a Wilcox, Oberto etc for the playoffs.

by Garrett Olsen on Feb 2, 2010 12:20 AM MST reply actions  

bearup

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Feb 2, 2010 4:12 PM MST up reply actions  

Good read

its impossible to see the future, and I think thats why Wark chooses to stay away from the Draft. The fact is nobody knows if Dejuan Blairs knees will be an issue in the future or not. I think given the playing field, Wark has done a fine job.

by InboundingLobPass on Feb 2, 2010 3:51 AM MST reply actions  

Nice Work

I think what a lot of people forget about our 2nd rounder that we traded for cash this year is that we used that cash to re-sign birdman, yes we could have drafted dejuan blair but by not getting the cash and signing blair it would have made it very hard to sign Bird. I would argue Wark has been the best gm ever for the Nuggets. I mean look at the decision to not resign Dahntay and trade for a virtually unknown Afflalo, basically we got a player who brings the same defensive intensity and a better offensive game for a fraction of the cost.

by Zachm219 on Feb 2, 2010 4:30 AM MST reply actions  

Blair Would Have Been Worth It

As a second round pick, they could pay Blair very little and only have to guarantee a year. So knee issues shouldn’t have been an issue; they wouldn’t be investing much in his future, it’s all about what he could be doing for them right now. And with him, they wouldn’t have had to pick up Petro, or more appropriately, Allen, and so his salary would be offset by the amount they would save there. So it is basically was a choice between 3 million dollars or Blair. I’m not saying don’t resign Birdman, I’m saying that part of Wark’s job is to convince Kroenke that Blair is worth paying 3 million more for. Kroenke is a basketball fan and he has shown he is willing to dish out the money if it makes basketball sense.

by asdqqq on Feb 3, 2010 9:24 PM MST up reply actions  

D+

we knew last season we needed another big and during the offseason nothing and with the all the big money tpeS and the feb 18 deadline looming we may still get nothing and we have a few guys on the bench who never play i believe theres maybe some deals with detroit we could work out ie:wilcox or maxille, not going to give anyone in the FO a good grade tell that gold ball is ours.

by tknuckle on Feb 2, 2010 5:03 AM MST reply actions  

the bright side

denver did not screw themselves in the future. the amount of money dallas and san antonio put out will have a major negitive impact down the road. the new york knicks screwed up big time. pornland paid miller 21 million for 3 years. look at the big picture now and in the future. put denver in the context of what other teams have done. sometimes it is like reffing a basketball game. great no call. every now and then the best move is no move at all. denver is in position to make a major move anytime.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Feb 2, 2010 4:21 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

Not for Dallas

Cuban will pay $140 million – $150 million a year if that can build a superteam of Kidd at the point (7 mil), Wade at SG (24 mil), LeBron at SF (24 mil), Dirk at PF (20 mil I think), and a defensive guy like Noah (15 mil if he becomes free agent) at center. That’s “only” around $90 million by itself. Then he could round the bench out with overpaid but young, decent players.

by Blag on Feb 5, 2010 3:44 PM MST up reply actions  

Give me a break

D+? Yeah those glory days when we were really pushing for the #1 pick in the draft were pure euphoria. I hate having the 3rd best record in the NBA.

by GoldenNugget on Feb 2, 2010 9:56 PM MST up reply actions  

We would have #1 pick a good deal of times if the lottery didn't screw us over every time

Remember that one draft in which we had a 11-71 record but still drafted 3rd and got Raef LaFrentz…ugh. We passed on Jamison, Vinsanity, Pierce, Nowitzki, Harrington, Rashard Lewis, Cuttino Mobley, and, heck, might as well include Larry Hughes (who had several good seasons with Washington before becoming a brickchucker) and Jason Williams

by Blag on Feb 5, 2010 3:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Ouch, that one hurts

Still, seems like every team has those. How about Atl taking Marvin Williams over CP3 and D-Will or the infamous taking of Darko over Melo, Wade and Bosh. Jesus, that is just horrible.

by GoldenNugget on Feb 5, 2010 11:47 PM MST up reply actions  

wow you put a lot of work into this. for that i offer you my congrats. for the record Carmelo wanted to sign an extension this past summer and Wark didn’t want to do it, and I believe Carmelo would still like to sign an extension this coming summer. Melo’s a loyal guy. People can hate on him for some stuff, but not for his loyalty

by NugNugz on Feb 2, 2010 7:27 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

Melo is very loyal to Denver

And considering what Dwade and Lebron are doing to their towns, I very glad Melo is on our team. I think he wants to retire a Nugget.

by CombatChuk on Feb 2, 2010 7:39 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

+1 for both of you

He doesn’t pull a crybaby like Lebron, and he doesn’t pull the “my team sucks” card like Wade. By the way, Wade won a title. Melo hasn’t, and he may never will. However, he isn’t going to try to go through the FA like them.

However, if we do let him into the FA, he’s going to get some crazy offers. There are teams in 2011 that will line up to give him 17 million a year for 5 years.

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by LACK on Feb 5, 2010 7:31 PM MST up reply actions  

OK, for a player of Melo's calibre, it's not THAT much

But 17 million is way more than you or I will probably ever make. And a 5 year, 17 mil per season deal gives $85 million.

"Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
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by LACK on Feb 5, 2010 7:32 PM MST up reply actions  

melo wants to sign before the new collective bargaining agreement.

the difference will be tens of millions of dollars.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Feb 5, 2010 8:34 PM MST up reply actions  

p.s. earl boykins sucks

a 5’5 sg? I’d take Blake any day of the week.

by NugNugz on Feb 2, 2010 11:52 AM MST reply actions  

well actually

he doesn’t suck,
for a SHORT (sorry I had to) time he was like the second or third highest paid player in the euro league. He can also bench like 300 lb. dude has some skills otherwise he wouldn’t be in the league with his SHORTcomings …

by InboundingLobPass on Feb 4, 2010 6:04 PM MST up reply actions  

being the third highest paid player in the euro league and being able to bench 300 lbs does not equate to you being good in the NBA.

by NugNugz on Feb 7, 2010 4:14 PM MST up reply actions  

good in the NBA

maybe not good in the NBA but it does mean he doesn’t “suck”

by InboundingLobPass on Feb 8, 2010 7:28 PM MST up reply actions  

Oberto is a great locker room guy...

…But I’m not sure he’s a great locker-next-to-Nene type of guy. I just see them butting heads. ;)

by NuggBuckets on Feb 2, 2010 4:10 PM MST reply actions  

Oberto's Argentine....

I only remember that because a ton of Argentines (students?) mobbed him before and after the Spurs game in Denver last season. He was really cool about it, too, as was Manu. Besides them and Finley, none of the other Spurs showed face.

In retrospect, I should have tried to startle Manu to see if he would have flopped.

by Artimus Mangilord on Feb 2, 2010 4:49 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL

He would have flopped, it is just a nervous reaction for that pervert!

by Gasus on Feb 2, 2010 4:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Funny you say that

All the girls from Argentina looked about highschool/college age, and they were all over him trying to get pics with him. Them throwing themselves at him made me sick.

by Artimus Mangilord on Feb 2, 2010 5:29 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow

Great read, probably one of the best fan posts ever. Loved what you said about AC and the Birdman glasses, funny stuff. Overall, I would HAVE to give Wark an A+. Sure, he has done some things that were questionable but the bottom line is the Chauncey trade was pure brilliance and his moves alone got us to the WCFs last year. Drafting Lawson this year was another move of a career as I think he’s gonna turn into an All-Star. The only thing I question is his philosophy on giving away all of our draft picks. Makes me think he has some kind of master plan in the works though.

by GoldenNugget on Feb 2, 2010 10:05 PM MST reply actions  

Awesome work!

I haven’t read through it yet, but it’s obvious you put tons of time into it. Much appreciated.

Rec this mans post people! What’s wrong with you!?!????

by aLuffabo on Feb 3, 2010 12:03 AM MST reply actions  

I still can't believe the Kleiza-Lee deal didn't work

David Lee is playing out of his mind. 19.5 ppg, 11.4 rpg, 3 apg on good shooting percentages. On the other hand, Kleiza is doing 0 ppg, 0 rpg, and 0 apg this season. OK, I’m kinda biasing these stats in my favor….

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by LACK on Feb 7, 2010 8:25 PM MST reply actions  

Bad Judgement on Lee/Kleiza

Except for his rookie year when I didn’t see it, I’ve been a huge Lee guy and thought he’d be a great addition. I was also never much of a Kleiza guy (really do we need to draft the college room mate of the owner’s son?).
To be fair to Kleiza, I always felt he was a NBA starter but was/is never going to be an effective bench player. With Melo on the team I never saw where keeping LK made sense. He can’t play SG or PF nor be good off the bench; LK is a SF Which to me made him tradeable.
Larry Brown is one of the all time greatest coaches but also one of the all time worst judges of talent (Dan Issell for Rich Kelly?). I think the same can be said for George Karl.

by the word on Feb 10, 2010 7:16 AM MST reply actions  

I'd give a strong B for the work

I’d give Wark a solid B overall for his work. Last year they scored with good timing and good selection. But it was just the year before that the Nugs Front Office was the laughingstock of the league. Teams wanted to talk trade but had to deal with the 4headed monster (Wark, Chapman, Bearup, Karl); didn’t know who to talk to and none of that group could pull the trigger (bad Wash. Wizards pun, sorry).

They’ve cleaned up quite well. Plus Wark can also take a little satisfaction; he kept wanting to trade for Zach Randolph when he was toxic. Zach has finally grown up (for now at least) and makes Wark look prophetic.

I do have the following concerns:
1)The practice of using their 1st round picks in order to cut salary today. The risk is the cupboard is going to be extremely bare in a few years.
2) When they traded for Billups they had a 2-3yr window to win the title, I would have liked for them to do whatever it took to win the title and then trim salary after KMart’s contract expires (luxury tax costs would be offset by box office & other sales). I don’t believe they’ve done nearly enough to make a rush for the title. Though to some extent I believe the Front Office tried (offers to Frye & Grant Hill).

In the spirit of full disclosure, I also graded Kiki’s time here as a C. He did some things well, he did other things not so well. And, I don’t give Kiki that much credit for drafting Melo because 1) he was the obvious pick at 3 and 2) if the Nugs had the 2nd pick he absolutely would’ve drafted Darko.

by the word on Feb 10, 2010 8:11 AM MST reply actions  

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2008 INDUCTION CLASS

F - Nikoloz Tskitishvili
F - Joe Wolf
F - Tony Battie
C - Scott Hastings
G - Tariq Abdul-Wahad
G - Mark Macon


Proprietors

304196_2551840719324_1353064703_32974236_1387484886_n_small Nate Timmons

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Writer

Me_oh_my_oh_small Jeffrey Morton