Golden Nuggets: The march to 1,000 wins...

Because I know everyone who has seen this team play since Karl has been here would agree with me about our postseason performance: it’s been atrocious to say the least. I remember vividly anlyisist after analysist doggin’ the Nuggets for the way they played in those SA and LA series. Calling us the “Enver” Nuggets, saying we’re just a glorified streetball team, etc. I remember a couple of times watching Barkley and Kenny make fun of us time and time again (not that it really matters, but just to prove my point). Sure, we barely squeaked into the playoffs a few times, but again, that was only because we had a really talented roster. Once we got there is was clear we didn’t even belong and I remember Legler (I think) saying we should have given our spot to some team that would have actually tried. So yes, we were a laughing stock even though we made the playoffs.

Because K-Mart was injured that entire series and didn’t even play some games if I remember right. So you could point to his absence as being more of a factor that Karls. I wouldn’t neccesarily say that, because I think the simple fact that Dantly had NO CLUE what he was doing played a bigger factor that Karl being gone. If we had a really good coach, say Mike Brown or someone like that, who filled in for Karl, I think things might have been differenlty too.

"Would the Nuggets have done any differently in those playoff series with a coach other than George Karl?"

Are you kidding me? GOD YES! If you read my statements above, I have been just as critical about the WAY we played, as I have been about our overall record in the playoffs. WHY THE F*CK WOULD ANDREW HAVE STARTED HIS ORIGINAL SIGHT IF EVERYTHING WAS SO PEACHY??? People are so quick to foget how Chauncey transormed this franchise.

And what about all the other teams like Phoenix, Dallas, Houston, Utah and Portland even who won playoff series? Why not mention them? They eventually lost to the Lakers or Spurs, but AT LEAST THEY WON SOME SERIES ALONG THE WAY!

The single indisputable fact about George Karl and the playoffs is "he has never lost a series to a team which was ranked lower in the regular season."

Umm, hello? Biggest upset in NBA history?

Look, I think like you stated multiple times, this really just comes down to a matter of opinion. You brought up fair points, but as you mentioned near the end “You can argue that a great coach would lead his team past better teams” and “You can also make an argument a great coach would "find" more wins in the regular season, leading to a higher seed.” If Karl is SUCH a great coach, why hasn’t he done either of those? He hasn’t even come close! Karl does what’s barely asked of him with an extremely talented roster and that’s it! Again, this is really just a matter of opinion, and I am tyring to make some fair points about this issue. I actually don’t mind if Karl is around IF Melo resigns, but I think resigning him without knowing what Melo is going to do is a mistake, especially considering the uncertainty surrounding this franchise. Karl IS NOT the coach to deal with a bunch of rookies if we are to rebuild.

All I’m doing is venting people. I really am not asking for anything else but for some fellow Stiffs/Nugget fans to hear me out. You may disagree with me, and that’s fine – especially about this issue since it’s so objective – but please just understand where I’m coming from. I don’t want this to get heated, because I can easily go there if I’m pushed. I’m just passionate about the direction of this franchise, that’s all.

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He was a big ole jackass, but since he had the phone throwing incident, he’s really changed things around married with kids etc.

As far as playing a nice guy. I totally agree he was terrific in Cinderella Man and played a darn sensitive role. Not sure how many other of his films you’ve seen but I would submit the following :)

Gladiator – nice guy, hero
The Insider – not a “nice” guy but played a do gooder whistleblower (his best role IMHO)
Mystery, Alaska – played a really nice guy hockey player
A Good Year – Very underrated – redemption story
A Beautiful Mind – (2nd best role IHMO)
Robin Hood – Nice guy here too (and terrific with Cate Blanchett)

I’ve seen about 80% of his films..

(full disclosure, Russell Crowe is my favorite actor…..)

the Nuggets aren’t in a position of power with either Melo or Melo’s suitors. If he wants to go, so be it. However given the choice between sending Melo away for some scrubs (NJ deal is off the table, trust me) and taking the cap space…I think they will just take the cap space.

I don’t see how there can be a “bad” trade. If you’re moving him for what everyone guesses we would move him for (ie. draft picks, players on rookie scale contracts, expirings) it’s hard to say that it would be a bad trade in relation to damaging the long-term flexibility of the team. I’m not saying we might not end up bad players in return, but their contractual commitments would be so short and small that it be almost impossible to actually harm the team during a rebuild.

I think there’s a 90% chance there will be a lockout. In which case it won’t matter. There has also been rumblings that Melo is looking in to picking up his player option for the Nuggets next season so he’s not “teamless” if there’s a lockout.

The draft next year will be terrible if there’s a lockout. No underclassman in his right mind will come out under those conditions. So you wait till a “stacked” 2012 draft and go from there.

Honestly, Karl want’s a competitive team. Once they sign him we aren’t looking at a “rebuild” in the truest sense. Maybe “retool” would be a better word?

Which likely won’t happen. We have Al, Bird and Ty under guaranteed contract for next year, and that’s it.