Dahntay Jones slapped with a Flagrant Foul I on Kobe Trip
by CombatChuk on May 26, 2009 4:06 PM MDT
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PrintThe foul -- deemed a Flagrant 1 by the league office -- is Jones' third flagrant of the postseason and his second in the past two games in the Western Conference finals. That gives Jones three flagrant-foul points in the playoffs, with players who exceed three flagrant-foul points receiving an automatic one-game ban.
Well I did kinda see this one coming, when I saw it live I thought the feet were just tangled up. But as a Nuggets fan I can confidently say that this was the right call. But I'll also admit that I'm not too upset about it. Dahntay is now starting to get in the head of Kobe and he is now starting to wear down, which I am thrilled with since the Lakers are impotent without Kobe. As long as Dahntay can keep the physicality up I'll be a happy camper.
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Really?
You’re happy that someone playing dirty is “getting in kobe’s head”
really?
I thought the flagrant foul was the right call on tripping.
But frustrating Kobe by being physical is how you beat Kobe. Getting Kobe fired up (emotionally) is what the Nuggets are trying to do. The Celts did it with zest last year, and have another ring in their collection
Though I don't disagree that it was a flagrant foul
I have to question Phil being that ticked off, he has had plenty of “dirty” players playing for him, he is just trying to defuse the whole ass whipping and blame it on Jones. I really think the Nuggets will blow out the Lakers in the next two games, I don’t think that they are neccessarily in Kobe’s head, but I think they are in the rest of the Lakers heads.
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You're right that they're not in Kobe's head
But the Nuggets are close. They’re wearing him down, the Nuggs already wiped the rest of the Lakers.
I agree. No one "gets in Kobe's head" but they are definitely in everyone elses head. (not so hard)
I do find it funny that the League says “Phil you are being fined for disagreeing with a call……………but we agree it’s a bad call so we are going to change it”…….LOL
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That is pretty ironic ...
But are they fining him for talking about Jones or about Phil saying the refs are not giving the Lakers a fair shake?
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by Nate Timmons on May 26, 2009 11:07 PM MDT up reply actions
This may be the one and only point that I’ve even partially agreed with you on. How tyrannical is it that the league fines people for publicly disagreeing with it or the ref’s? Especially in a league that has come under scrutiny for questionable officiating and whose refs have relatively recently been caught gambling on games that they officiated. That’s just plain messed up. If they were confident that they were on the straight and narrow then they’d let those guys say what they like and then defend their position publicly. The current policy reeks of corruption.
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by PosterNutbag on May 27, 2009 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions
keep hitting them
they’ll bounce back once in a while and Kobe will have Kobe type games, but keep being physical with them and they’ll crumble (again)
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To me this is a game 7.
It just feels like the team that wins this game will definitely win the series. Hopefully both teams will play their asses off, the officiating will be not only fair but “invisible”, and we can see who the better team really is.
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I hope the refs will be "invisible" as well and I know both teams will bring it.
Though I also think Denver was the better team in Game 4 …
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by Nate Timmons on May 26, 2009 11:09 PM MDT up reply actions
I just don't want them to be invisible when there's an obvious hack.
No matter which color jersey the guy is wearing. If it’s a foul, call the foul, if it’s not, swallow your whistle. Please. And be consistent for 4 quarters on both sides of the floor.
Nuggets need to get after the ball and fly out on open shooters. Inside they need to hold their ground and they need to box out. Let your offense run from defensive stops. You can hold this team to under 100.
Flagrant 1 ruling's fair
Glad he didn’t get the suspension (which I believe would have been unprecedented for a simple, if admittedly dirty, trip – am I wrong?). Something tells me we’re gonna need all the warm bodies we can get to throw at Kobe in Game 5.
I’d also love an “invisibly” ref’d game, but not sure that’s really possible this deep into the postseason – tough for a hardcore fan not feel every single call. “Fair” is probably the best one can hope for…
Don't think anyone is in Kobe's head
except maybe Shaq back in the day.
Flagrant is fine with me. I think it was just a reaction to realizing “i’m beat, oh shit”. A flagrant is fine with me, but all of this “donte jones is a dirty player!!!!111one” is just silly. Come on now.
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Agreed on Dahntay. He's not dirty.
I think he has tried to be a little something that he’s not in these playoffs … a very physical guy who will go toe-to-toe with whoever.
I think Jones is tough, a good defender, and very athletic (see his dunk in Game 4) and he’s trying to remake himself and doing a pretty good job of it. A “poor man’s Bruce Bowen” as coach Karl called him on TNT.
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by Nate Timmons on May 26, 2009 11:12 PM MDT up reply actions
Intentionally tripping a running player is not dirty?
Watching the replay and seeing him sticking his leg out to trip Kobe is a disturbing scene. Did Jones have to be that low to “win at all cost?”
meh...
It’s not not dirty. It’s not that big of a deal though. I think you’re making much too big of a fuss.
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by PosterNutbag on May 27, 2009 2:03 PM MDT up reply actions
That play was dirty, but overall Jones is not a dirty player.
I’ve watched him all season and I’m not going to label him because of a few questionable (on his part) fouls in the playoffs.
That play was just as bad as a play later in the game where Andrew Bynum came from under the hoop to go set a screen at the three point line and while on his way he threw an elbow in Melo’s back … causing an already sick and hurting (ankle) Melo to the hardwood.
I guess since ESPN didn’t replay that one 5,000 times … nobody saw it. I had it on DVR and watched it about 4 times … Bynum went well out of his way to viciously hit Melo in the back.
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by Nate Timmons on May 27, 2009 2:23 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't think that was intentional
But it is what it is all the same, and you can’t argue with the refs.
But all these calls being changed after the game has to stop.
It was definitely intentional
but not premeditated.
And I agree that changing calls after the fact is a dangerous game. It just goes to show that the league doesn’t have confidence in their officials. And if the league doesn’t, why should we?
How could it not be intentional?
when someone stops his motion, turns backward, sticks out his LEG to trip his opponent?
Not intentional? I don’t think so.
Watch the replay.
Yes, the replay should air roughly 67,000 times in the pre-game show tonight.
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by Nate Timmons on May 27, 2009 2:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Reread the post you are responding to. Or were you responding to the prior post?
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by Bob in Boulder on May 27, 2009 3:04 PM MDT up reply actions
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