You stay classy, Cuban.
by herewereyouwish on May 11, 2009 8:24 AM MDT
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From ESPN.com
The NBA is reviewing a postgame confrontation between Mark Cuban and the mother ofDenver Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin during which the Dallas Mavericks owner referred to Martin as a "thug" or a "punk," according to a report in The Denver Post.
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Cuban
Cuban told the Denver newspaper by e-mail that as he walked off the court after the Mavericks' Saturday night loss in Dallas, he saw Martin's mother, Lydia Moore, as a fan was yelling that the Nuggets were "thugs."
"That includes your son," Cuban said to Moore, according to his e-mail to The Post.
Martin's agent, Brian Dyke, had a different take on the incident, The Post reported. According to Dyke, an unprovoked Cuban told Moore, "Your son is a punk."
Either way, NBA spokesman Tim Frank told the paper the "situation on the floor postgame is being reviewed."
According to The Associated Press, Frank said Sunday the league was still reviewing the wider postgame scene on the court, when Dallas' Josh Howard and Cuban were among those visibly upset after Carmelo Anthony hit a game-winning 3-pointer with one second to play.
The shot, which came after Antoine Wright's obvious attempt to draw a foul on Anthony, took the Nuggets from two points down to one point ahead, giving them a 106-105 victory and a commanding 3-0 lead in the second-round series.
Martin, a Dallas native known for his physical play, was fined $25,000 by the NBA on Monday, a day after knocking Dallas forward Dirk Nowitzki to the court in Denver's series-opening win.
After the game, Nowitzki downplayed the contact as "just a hard playoff foul." The Mavericks All-Star has no beef with Martin, either.
"We both played hard, had some great battles and left it at that," Nowitzki said Tuesday. "We were laughing at one move that I made on the block where I had like 10 or 11 fakes and he was just standing there. He asked me what the hell I was doing?"
On the play in question, Nowitzki was off-balance when Martin put a shoulder to him, causing him to stumble and then slide across the lane. Nowitzki disputed that he made the foul look worse that it was.
"I don't think I really acted on that play," he said. "It was pretty obvious."
Nowitzki doesn't think Martin will change his style because of the fine.
"K-Mart is K-Mart. He's an aggressive player, an aggressive defender," Nowitzki said. "He goes to the basket hard. I don't think that's going to be in the back of his mind."
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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Well
aren’t we just the wounded duck?
Cuban was pissed, he popped off to the mother of a player he has a well-known beef with and gave an over-dramatized shove to a cameraman. The NBA shouldn’t fine him for anything, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they did because it IS Mark Cuban.
It’s really not a big deal and I hope we win Game 4 just so we can move away from this series. With all the baawwwwing going on after Game 1 about FT disparity and of course Game 3, I hate that the most exciting time in my life as a Nuggets fan is being DROWNED in officiating and off-court nonsense.
I just hope this Cuban thing goes away with no punishment. He doesn’t deserve punishment, even if he was acting a bit like a spoiled brat.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on May 11, 2009 9:13 AM MDT reply actions
He wasn’t acting.
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by Bob in Boulder on May 11, 2009 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions
I get that.
It was over the top, but the NBA should be looking into why they are consistently fucking up playoff games and not what the primadonna of owners is doing after the game.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on May 11, 2009 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cuban is definitely a spoiled brat. As to the ref F up, sure, he could have and probably should have called a foul. But Melo still hit the shot. And who is to say he wouldn’t have hit one following the subsequent in-bounds play anyway? Plus, I’d say that 90% of the questionable calls on Saturday went the Mavs’ way, so they really don’t have anything to complain about (but they seem to be really good at complaining anyway). One key play in particular I remember was a loose ball where Melo tied up the guy on the floor and was inexplicably whisted for a foul.
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by Bob in Boulder on May 11, 2009 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions
yep…this behavior from Mavs management is certainly nothing new. It seems like they’ve complained about something after pretty much every game they’ve played against the Nugs this year. NBA needs to hit this guy with a huge fine (for the push AND the incident with KMart’s mom. C’mon dude…moms are off limits. That should go without saying.).
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 11, 2009 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions
I wasn't talking just about Game 3.
I was talking about the playoffs in general. Every year there are several games that come down to officiating and this year is no different.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on May 11, 2009 11:16 AM MDT up reply actions
True
And that, more than anything, is what scares me about the Lakers. Even if the Nugs play toe-to-toe with them, you know damn well that Kobe and Gasol are going to get way more calls than Melo. Chauncy seems to get some respect from the refs. But Melo doesn’t.
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by Bob in Boulder on May 11, 2009 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions
Pretty much how the NBA does it.
It markets the stars and Melo isn’t in that hierarchy anymore. After the DUI, the NY brawl that somehow cast the Nuggets as the team of thugs (Nate Robinson got out of that with almost zero bad press despite escalating that thing by trying to show how tough he is), and the general attitude he’s had in his career, he’s just seen as the ring leader of the “Thuggets”.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on May 11, 2009 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
And isn't it funny
How Kobe’s little, at the very least infidelity, at worst, rape, just gets swept under the carpet?
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by Bob in Boulder on May 11, 2009 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions
Well
I don’t think it’ll be forgotten for long if the Lakers roll into town. Colorado sports fans aren’t the nicest in the league.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on May 11, 2009 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions
And I resemble that remark. I’d be giving him the business, that is for sure. Not necessarily bringing up the R word, but I’d ask him if he’s had to buy any more $4M apology rings.
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by Bob in Boulder on May 11, 2009 12:47 PM MDT up reply actions
Hypocrite
Isn’t Cuban harassing Kmart’s Mom an indication he is exactly what he claimed the Nugs to be?
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
ding ding ding
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 11, 2009 11:02 AM MDT up reply actions
Man...
of all the games to miss… I was in freaking New Mexico and only caught the 3rd quarter…
It's pronounced Moreno, not Marino.
I was at a hockey game
and missed the entire thing. I watched it later that night though on a replay and it was tough to watch.
If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on May 11, 2009 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Cuban reminds me of a little league dad
He’s pissed his kids are getting beat so he wants to pick a fight with whoever he thinks he can beat, the umpire, other parents. 
Minus the mustache, pretty much the same idiot
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by Broncoman on May 11, 2009 4:39 PM MDT reply actions 7 recs
Hey Batdad...
I didn’t here no bell…
BY FAR my favorite SP ever.
by herewereyouwish on May 12, 2009 1:02 PM MDT up reply actions
ooops…meant to be a reply to Broncoman.
"C" is for Championship...that's good enough for meeeee!!!
by PosterNutbag on May 11, 2009 11:40 PM MDT up reply actions
or class....
It's pronounced Moreno, not Marino.
by Jezru on May 12, 2009 1:34 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
or style...
see Paul Allen as well….
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
Kenyon is no different....
Kenyon leaving the Arena flipping fans off and f bombing Dallas fans that had nothing to do with anything. I guess that is classy and acceptable? To me that is just as thuggy as Cuban mouthing stupid comments. I know you will all see it different unless you actaully look at all wrongs and not just other peoples excluding your teams. Just a thought, bash me if you like but this is getting old with the double standard. Atleast I am fair , Cuban embarrased our team in a big way and its not acceptable regardless of who he is in the Mavs.
The problem is
Kenyon is out there playing. Cuban is nothing, do not have any business on the court.
"Do not rest in defense. You can spend 24 seconds in offense on resting. If you do good enough on defense, you will be able to rest on offense."
Kenyon
did this today going to the docks at the AAC…..where did this have anything to do with the court?
While I don't agree with how Kenyon handled himself ...
I can see how he was upset with his treatment and lashed out. It doesn’t make it right and I agree that perhaps this whole thing is completely overblown and I probably helped make it that way here by posting about Cuban.
I guess those of us who hold ourselves to a higher standard can stand on our soapboxes all we want, but it wont make a difference for the few who choose to act less than desirable.
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by Nate Timmons on May 13, 2009 9:07 AM MDT up reply actions
exactly
but hey you have every right to your opinion as I do. That’s what makes a good conversation cause we all don’t agre everytime but we can be mature about it. Thanks for the post.
While
I dont condone what K-Mart did, but it was in response to what was going on in the stands. Cuban started all of this. He could have defused it before game 4. But when the fans see how the owner is acting they are gonna follow suit. It takes away from how good of a game Melo and Dirk had. (Only the 3rd time in NBA playoff history 2 players had 40+ points and 10+ boards)
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by broncfanstuckinsd on May 13, 2009 2:19 PM MDT reply actions
the problem ...
with the whole stands thing is your getting what is only being said from Denver fans , media, and family members. The truth is in a video to see what really happened and NBC has it on their website. They were focused on that part of the arena the whole game and it shows cleary LALA throwing red soda on Dallas fans, second not anytime is there beer thrown at Mrs. Moore yet thats what was said and its a big lie as I like proof not someone exxagerating their opinions. The weird thing about the whole deal is Mrs moore and the family had so much security around them the whole game just for them and if a fan would have crossed the line they would be in jail probably that night. Seeing LALA push a security gaurd when she is being told to leave the arena for her bad actions was amazing as she acted as if she did nothing wrong but hey most don’t think of the camera on them when they do stupid things and then blame others with lie’s. Like I said go to the website and check it for yourself as its really amazing cause it is nothing as they are portraying it to be.
All in all, fans pay to be there and to heckle anyone they choose from the opposing team without crossing certain lines. They go to the arena in hostile arenas and expect no one to heckle them when they are in an opposing jersey and surely trash talking themselves? I have been to opposing team arena’s wearing a road jersey and guess what they abused me the whole game but who cares they had every right and I would do the same in a clean manner ofcourse. Good luck tonight btw it should be interesting to say the least.
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If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! HOW can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!
by SlamDunkTheFunk on May 14, 2009 12:40 AM MDT up reply actions
+1
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on May 14, 2009 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions
Wall of text aside...
fans need to be more respectful of eachother. I take a certain pride that there are rarely riots at American sporting events. In other countries the disdain for one another is so severe that many times games are played in empty stadiums (over soccer of all silly sports). Hassling in good fun is fine, but throwing piss on an opposing fan is not (Raider fan I am disdainfully looking in your direction)…
That said I will take every opportunity to let Laker fan know how much I hate them…. It will, however, take ounce in my being not to shout from my car at the fans as I pass Staples center every night on my 1.5 hour commute home, much less floor it and take out as many of their obnoxious asses as possible…. Kidding… Kidding… Geez…
J
It's pronounced Moreno, not Marino.
Watch
how all the laker car flags will disappear once they fall down to the Nuggets in the series. That I cant wait for. Especially all the wagon riders here in SD
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on May 14, 2009 5:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Ugh...
The car flags… I can feel the bile in the back of my throat… It was funny last year when they got whooped by the Celtics in that last game… Up until then they were everywhere…. The next day, you couldn’t find one if you put it on a milk carton.
Seriously, that was epic…. I saw that colossal beat down at Barney’s Beanery in Pasadena… It almost rivaled what I experienced in Lincoln, NE after the 74 (or so) point beat down that Texas Tech laid on the Huskers back in 2004. Pure joy is a tough thing to keep queit….
J
It's not the Lakers I hate with every bone in my body, it's just the players and their fans.
I am hoping
for Houston to win tonight so the faker fans will be on suicide watch. Now that is something to revel in. I love nothing more than watching the Kobes get beat down
somethings wrong, Trying to conquer these fears i thought were gone. And it's been so long, I'm dying to live in a world i don't belong
by broncfanstuckinsd on May 14, 2009 6:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Cuban is a complete Classless Moron
But he did blow a lot of money making the Mavs an actual NBA team. Its just like a “what if any crybaby fan got there own team”, and it happend.
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