Playoff Update April 14th
by Nate Timmons on Apr 14, 2009 10:08 AM MDT
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Playoff seeding will be settled in the next two days. Right now there is still a great possibility that multiple teams will be switching seeding spots. My head hurts from trying to figure this stuff out.
Current Standings with all teams having one game remaining:
1.) L.A. Lakers 64-17 (vs. Jazz tonight)
2.) Denver 54-27 (at Portland, Wed. April 15th)*
3.) Houston 53-28 (at Dallas, Wed. April 15th)#
4.) Portland 53-28 (vs. Denver, Wed. April 15th)^
5.) San Antonio 53-28 (vs. New Orleans, Wed. April 15th)**
6.) New Orleans 49-32 (at San Antonio, Wed. April 15th)##
7.) Dallas 49-32 (vs. Rockets, Wed. April 15th)^^
8.) Utah 48-33 (at Lakers, tonight)>
* The Nuggets can claim the 2nd Seed with a win in Portland or a Houston loss at Dallas. The Nuggets can finish no lower than the 3rd Seed.
# Houston can claim the 2nd Seed with a win and a Nuggets loss. Houston can claim the 3rd Seed with a win and a Nuggets win as they hold tiebreakers over Portland (2-1) and San Antonio (better win % vs. Playoff teams).
^ Portland needs a win vs. Denver to hang on to the 4 Seed or a San Antonio loss. The Blazers hold the tiebreaker with the Spurs (3-1).
** San Antonio needs a win and a Houston loss to claim the 3rd Seed or a win and a Portland loss to claim the 4 Seed. If they remain tied with Portland, the Spurs will be the 5th Seed.
## New Orleans needs a win to claim the 6th Seed or a Dallas loss and a Utah loss. New Orleans holds the tiebreaker over the Mavs with a 3-1 advantage in head-to-head games. Utah holds the tiebreaker over New Orleans going 3-0 in head-to-head games.
^^ Dallas needs a win and a New Orleans loss to claim the 6th Seed. They need a win to ensure at least the 7th Seed.
> Utah can claim the 6th Seed with a win and losses by both Dallas and New Orleans. Utah can claim the 7th Seed with a win and a either a Dallas or New Orleans loss.
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Well, ESPN is terrible
Good god, go here:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=SixthMan-0809
and tell me with a straight face that that is not a travesty.
Jason Terry as sixth man of the year, when JR Smith has been playing inspired basketball all season with better numbers and a better overall team record?
Awful. ESPN doesn’t know shit. Especially with phrases like "Nobody expected Denver to win the division with DEFENSIVE STOPPERS MARCUS CAMBY (lol) and EDUARDO NAJERA (lol x2) gone."
Anyway, who cares what awards mean at this point. The only award I care about now is the one awaiting us at the end of a 7 game NBA Finals series.
Most Improved
Nene and Chris Andersen getting a little bit of love here from ESPN.
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My friend, here's an important point.
Besides the situations you said for the Nuggets to clinch #2, we can also clinch it if San Antonio wins Wednesday, because they own the tie-breaker over Houston, and we would own the tiebreaker over Houston, because we are division champs and they would not be.
Understand everybody!!!???
by Lucas Navarrete on Apr 14, 2009 12:55 PM MDT reply actions
so...
If San Antonio wins wednesday, no matter what anybody else does. We win #2 seed, even if we lose.
They own the 4th tiebreaker over the Rockets, hahaha, thats tied!!!
GO SPURS WEDNESDAY!!
by Lucas Navarrete on Apr 14, 2009 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions
Sepioes, the 4th tiebreaker is what team has the better record against playoff teams in the West
Do you know for a fact that SAN ANTONIO’S record against current playoff teams in the West is better than Houston’s? Because I can’t seem to find info on that anywhere.
by Colin Neilson on Apr 14, 2009 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions
I am pretty positive that San Antonio owns the tiebreaker over Houston
I really think they own it, so we need a Spurs win…
by Lucas Navarrete on Apr 14, 2009 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Again this is San Antonio's record vs. west PLAYOFF teams against Houston's record vs. west playoff teams
Do you have solid numbers on the number of wins San Antonio has vs. West playoff teams versus Houston’s record vs. West playoff teams?
If San Antonio’s is better, then your scenario is right. I would manually add them up but I am at work.
by Colin Neilson on Apr 14, 2009 1:06 PM MDT up reply actions
Tyson Chandler is back
And we have owned Utah at home this season. I would be more afraid of Paul-Chandler-West than Deron-Boozer-Korver
by Colin Neilson on Apr 14, 2009 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm not gonna lie.
I’m not 100% sure.
I THINK is this way… 1st of all, I need all the tiebreakers possible.
Then, I will, or someone can do it, do my best to try to figure it out, Im not really sure, I think it is a pretty big possibility tho,,,
by Lucas Navarrete on Apr 14, 2009 1:17 PM MDT reply actions
maybe I'm wrong.
Someone could visit some Spurs blog to try to find this out??? I’m sure they have searched this scenario in some way…
by Lucas Navarrete on Apr 14, 2009 1:21 PM MDT reply actions
Sepioes, sorry, you're wrong
I just added it up and Houston has 3 more wins vs West playoff teams than San Antonio does, which is the 4th tiebreaker. Even if San Antonio wins they will still have a worse record vs Houston against West playoff teams.
Denver must win at Portland OR Houston must lose vs Dallas in order for Denver to get the 2 seed.
my bad then.
nothing to be sorry about my friend, thanks for explanation.
did you take a look at the other 3 tie breakers before that one tho?
because when I said 4th, I really was talking from mind… Maybe Spurs own the 2nd or 2rd tie breaker, which come before.
Could you make sure???
Thanks
by Lucas Navarrete on Apr 14, 2009 1:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes
These are the tiebreaker explanations:
TWO-WAY TIES
1. Results of games against each other. (Tied)
2. Better winning percentage within own division (only if tied teams are in same division). (Tied, assuming both win)
3. Better winning percentage against teams in own conference. (Tied, assuming both win)
4. Better winning percentage against playoff opponents in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position). (Houston wins no matter what San Antonio does)
5. Better winning percentage against playoff opponents in opposite conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
6. Better point differential between offense and defense.
So yeah…it comes down to the 4th tiebreaker. Of course, that is all moot if Houston loses to Dallas, so the team we should really be cheering for is the Mavs.
by Colin Neilson on Apr 14, 2009 1:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Tiebreakers
If San Antonio holds the tiebreakers with Houston, and right now their records are tied, wouldn’t San Antonio be the current division leader?
I see Houston listed as the division leader and the Spurs listed as #2, so doesn’t that mean that Houston holds the tiebreaker?
Or does NBA.com have their current positions listed incorrectly?
Correct that Houston owns the tiebreaker over the Spurs ...
As Beefyswats explains … the Rockets have more wins over playoff teams.
Roundball has it as 16-13 for the Rockets vs. 14-14 for the Spurs.
Denver must win in Portland or have Houston lose in Dallas.
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I don't think it matters
If Utah loses to the Lakers tonight, they will lock up the 8th spot in the west and get the Lakers in round 1. Leaving Dallas and New Orleans as the 2 possible opponents for the Nuggets. If we win we get New Orleans, if we lose we get Dallas.
Personally I think we maytch up very well against both these teams(swept Dallas plit series with Hornets but that included a loss with Melo not playing)
The only team I feared is Utah cause they are so tough at home, but I don’t see them winning tonight.
The Lakers have nothing to play for … yet they can almost choose their playoff opponent.
If they beat the Jazz … they play the Jazz.
If the Lakers lose to the Jazz and Dallas loses then the Lakers would face Dallas.
Any NBA conspiracy theorists think the Lakers will lose to try to play the Mavs instead of the Jazz?
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by Nate Timmons on Apr 14, 2009 4:02 PM MDT up reply actions
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