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Way To Get Haywood

okay so to compete with the lakers size, we r gna need big body to throw at them for like 20 minutes. Names like JEff Foster, Joel Pryzbilla, and Brendan Haywood all fit. The latter is on an expirer and his team is looking to blow up. The one problem is he makes 6 mil, and denver cant match that with out giving up a rotation player, thats why i propose we involve GSW. 

this is my proposal 

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ykc7uln


its pretty much
DEN gives a bunch of Minimum Salary guys (AC, Petro, Allen **afflalo is in there only cuz it wont let me trade graham yet, but that changes soon) (which we could sign more of) and Balkman (possibly a second or if we can a first) GSW gives CJ watson, claxon, george, randolph WAS gives Haywood and Butler
DEN gets CJ Watson And Brendan Haywood GSW gets Caron Butler, PEtro and Graham (and mayb a pick from Denver) WAS gets A Randolph, AC, Balkman, Allen, Claxton and George
Why do they do it? DEN: Get a big body with a good contract for mostly scrubs.... also throw a young promising PG in watson GSW: get Butler who was mentioned (along w amare adn boozer) as one of the guys they want for randolph and PEtro (just as good as moore) and they could use a high energy guy in graham WAS: Get a future star in Randolph (who is cheap also), Balkman would find some minutes,and the rest of the contracts expire, which help them financially; also with randolph, they could really have a good 3 pt line up with like arenas foye miller jamison randolph
Why dont they do it? DEN: Get a starting capable Center on the bench for next to nothing GSW: get a SF that they really like WAS: dumps butlers longer contract for expierers and young talent in randolph 

 

 

 

EDIT: i just want to say there is another version of this trade that is plausible; it pertains in us getting nick young (not getting watson), the wizards getting MAggette, adn the warriors getting james and blatche

i wont go to much into depth about this version, but rly GSW wants to unload maggette, denver could use a a good back up SF and the wizards get another scorer (but take on a horrible contract)

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however, I don’t think it would go down just because there are like 15 players involved in which Denver loses what 5 for 2? So hey would then have 10 in which none could really fill in for Melo if hewas hurt for a certain period of time which is why wehave Graham. I mean i like the trade from all teams, i would just tryand find a way to get a 4th team involved, use a TPE on a 3 mil salary and throw that in the mix. That way Denver doesn’t lose 5 guys, they’ll lose 3… Balkman, Petro and Allen and possibly pics.

by Garrett Olsen on Dec 19, 2009 11:40 AM MST reply actions  

kiss priciple

keep it simple s………you get the idea. denver is missing 1 piece of the puzzle. a big player that can rebound and defend in the paint. ac has veto power over any deal involving him. right now what denver has works 90% of the time. it is the 5 to 10% that will kill them in the playoffs. the player they need will play 10 to 20 minutes maximum. that deal has too many roster changes to be effective.

pick up a calf every day pretty soon you will be picking up a cow

by nohoops4u on Dec 19, 2009 1:10 PM MST reply actions  

this may leave the Nuggets

without any bench to fill in if theres multiple injuries as the season goes along

by InboundingLobPass on Dec 19, 2009 4:55 PM MST reply actions  

Haywood would be great, he’s thick, he’s physical, strong, and will hold his own in the paint defensively, rebonding wise, and some scoring.

Good news about George Karl’s teams is his role players, especially those who play like 5 – 15 mpg are totally expendable. This is not a triangle offense where players must have a training camp or pre-season to grasp an understanding.

GK’s system is pretty easy going for new players, especially consider when they play so little minutes and many veterans like Billups and Melo who are ready to show them things and this team’s “seriousness” about championship is at an all-time high.

Getting Haywood means he’ll instantly be in our key rotation if not instantly our starting C right away… and if there’s any concern he’d be slow to learn, it’s still December – January, still a lot of games… and again, GK’s system is not hard to play for. It’s simply “move the ball, attack, shoot, pass, but don’t hold the damn ball”… it’s pretty straight forward… and for bigs, most likely Karl will say to him to focus on rebounding and Nene can more than help show him thing or two.

I’d say get him, or that dude Chuck Hayes, who means we don’t have to bench KMart (potential bomb ticking).

by SnakefromHell on Dec 20, 2009 2:36 AM MST reply actions  

I know this is a bit counterproductive, but if we’re going to lose our entire bench over a trade, I’d rather we end up with Anthony Randolph than Haywood.

by NugNugz on Dec 20, 2009 8:21 AM MST reply actions  

ya but who in the trade actually plays?

like graham, AC, petro, allen

they are all replacable, besides it takes AC of our hands…

by hvino on Dec 20, 2009 10:39 AM MST up reply actions  

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