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Tyrus Thomas, David Lee soon to be available?

i was reading on hoopshype today that David “Double-Double” Lee and Tyrus “Double T” Thomas could be on the block before the trade deadline. Neither is a legit 7 footer but I’m intrigued by both. Lee is a rebounding machine something we desperately need. Tyrus Thomas, while I don’t think he’ll ever live up to his high draft pick, could be an adequate replacement for K-Mart for the future if he could turn into that intimidating force. Thomas reminds me a lot of K-Mart actually. As you might have noticed, I am proposing we try to get both and build for the future. A frontline of Lee, Thomas and Nene along with Melo at the SF and perhaps an aging KMart could be devastating. It might be unrealistic on a lot of levels – tis a lot of mouths to feed, but I wonder if it’s possible.

The Knicks just want expiring contracts and because Lee is a base year player they can only take back half of his salary, which would be 3.5 million. Malik Allen and AC or a trade exception would more or less fill that need.

Thomas would be harder. The bulls aren’t going to give him a way for nothing but if we could bring in a third team who has someone they want to get rid of in exchange for a trade exception, that could work too. The bulls, I believe, are looking for some outside shooting a la ben gordon. Perhaps a three team trade where the bulls get DuQuan Cook and a pick for the Nuggets, the heat get a trade exception or expiring contracts to be free agent players and the Nuggets pick up Thomas. I’m not sitting here with the salaries so I don’t know how it plays out. I also no Cook doesn’t = Thomas so probably somebody slightly better than Cook, perhaps Randy Foye! oh that is a lovely idea. bulls get foye, wiz get much needed cap relief and nuggies get Thomas. Thoughts?




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Lee over Tyrus

I like both players but I would take Lee first. Tyrus is flashy. If you could combine JR Smith and Manu Ginobli, Smith is flashy, Ginobli is consistent. I see the same comparison with Lee and Thomas. Lee is consistent and Thomas is flashy.

by Garrett Olsen on Nov 25, 2009 11:27 AM MST reply actions  

interesting

I like both players and either would fit well with this team, but getting both would leave us with too many pf’s. Lee is a rebounding machine who can score well without needing plays called for him. TT is K-Mart with a better jump shot. Between the two, Lee is the safer bet. If your salary figures are correct, we could get him without giving up much. None of this addresses the fact that we need size and bulk however. I’d love to see Lee in powder blue, but I’d love it more if he came with an affordable, veteran 5 (Nazr Mohammad anyone?)

by adub on Nov 25, 2009 11:41 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

WIZARDS

How bout we see if the Wizards want to save some money on bigs and offer Kenyon and a 2 rounder for Antwan Jamison and Andray Blatche. Would that work?

by NUGGS85 on Nov 25, 2009 1:22 PM MST reply actions  

I always get a little

funny feeling when we start talking about trading someone like Kenyon….You know. I mean i get that he has a huge contract and he is getting up there in age and all that, but he is such a part of the indentity of this team…i’m torn I guess. I know we have to be willing to sacrafice but KMart is a huge impact emotionally for this team.
how about Balkman/AC/Petro/Graham for Tim Duncan? kidding.

by SternfluffsKobe on Nov 25, 2009 1:31 PM MST up reply actions  

Remember when...

The Nuggets were talking with the Knicks about a Lee for Kleiza trade? Guess who shot that one down? That’s right, none other than George freakin’ Karl. Now Lee is one of the best rebounders in the game, is on the verge of making the All-Star team and still is getting underpaid, while Kleiza isn’t even in the NBA any more. Man do I love the decisions my head coach makes.

by GoldenNugget on Nov 25, 2009 2:39 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah

I’ve thought about that a lot too earlier, and can’t help but think though, what kind of contract would we have signed him to this past offseason if we had gotten him? I mean, the only reason Lee’s contract is ‘underpaid’ is because he took a 1-year deal as to not ruin the Knicks 2010 plans. Otherwise we might be paying him the 10mil+ a year or whatever he wanted.

by Agaliarept on Nov 25, 2009 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Or we could have gotten Artest for Kleiza 2 years ago

and probably would have been relevant in the playoffs with a defense anchored with artest and camby and an offense powered by melo and AI. oh well.

by Missing Lynx on Nov 26, 2009 3:26 AM MST reply actions  

Karl isn't all to blame

Nugz offered Kleiza for Lee straight up and the knicks shot it down. As for Artest, a team with an immature Melo/JR and AI and Artest…no thanks.

by Zachm219 on Nov 26, 2009 4:01 AM MST reply actions  

Lee

I think I am over David Lee. That had to be the most uninvolved 20 and 10 I have ever seen. Seems like he just never had an impact on the game. I dont know maybe its just me. Atleast for the contract he is looking for.

by NUGGS85 on Nov 28, 2009 9:35 AM MST reply actions  

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