Preseason Game Thread: Nuggets vs. Lakers (8pm MDT)
by Nate Timmons on Oct 22, 2009 7:00 PM MDT
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Denver Nuggets at Los Angeles Lakers, Oct 22, 2009 8:00 PM MDT
The Nuggets are in Anaheim tonight to face the Los Angeles Lakers in the first game of a back-to-back with the defending champions. Game two of the "California Tour" will take place Friday October 23rd in San Diego. I'm not quite sure if these last two preseason games are for the players or for the vast number of Californians who want to see the purple and gold live ... either way we'll get to see the Nuggets twice on national TV. Tonight's game is on TNT ... so tune in and take a peek at your Nuggets before the regular season kicks off in just a matter of days.
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weird
this game is on tv, i can actually watch it.
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 7:14 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
graham in the starting lineup?
I was thinking that AA would start?
by ColoradoAggie11 on Oct 22, 2009 8:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Double A should start..
..although Graham is off to a good start 2pts 2 boards and a assist in 6 minutes of play..not bad. maybe Coach Karl is going to start Graham instead of aflallo for the first seven games of the season when J.R is suspended..dought that though. Afflalo needs to start.. he is a beast!
by stan_26 on Oct 22, 2009 8:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I doubt that
I think Karl’s just trying out a different lineup. experimenting to see how this bigger lineup plays.
J.R. is my homeboy
by Greyson on Oct 22, 2009 8:29 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Bird and AA in
Now THIS should be a fun lineup
J.R. is my homeboy
by Greyson on Oct 22, 2009 8:30 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Turnovers
need to stop. A lot of empty offensive sets tonight
by ColoradoAggie11 on Oct 22, 2009 8:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Word
We are averaging 20 per game that’s got to stop
by samdman on Oct 22, 2009 8:33 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
20 a game? Really?
Damn that’s not good…
J.R. is my homeboy
by Greyson on Oct 22, 2009 8:34 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Lamar Odom..
is on fire. 3 for 4 from downtown so far
by stan_26 on Oct 22, 2009 8:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
graham started on tuesday too
he looks much better then aa, graham is the starter.
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 8:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
really??
i don"t know about Graham starting. i would prefer AA for defensive purposes
by stan_26 on Oct 22, 2009 8:35 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Neither look that hot so far.
J.R. is my homeboy
by Greyson on Oct 22, 2009 8:36 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ugly game
The Nuggets have played poorly in half court sets all preseason
by runningdonut on Oct 22, 2009 8:37 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Chauncey
is continuing the Year of the Neckbeard! Love it.
J.R. is my homeboy
by Greyson on Oct 22, 2009 8:37 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Love the beard and neckbeard!
Denver Stiffs.com: Defending the sovereignty of Nuggets Nation.
by Nate Timmons on Oct 23, 2009 9:54 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
graham can play some d, much more physical than aa
as i say that, aa knocks down a nice 3.
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 8:38 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Long range shots going down
4 out of 5 so far.
by stan_26 on Oct 22, 2009 8:39 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
so who won't be on the active roster?
petro?
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 8:43 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
He can I think he will play more in the second half and definitely a lot more when we play the lakers tomorrow.
Just want to see how we are without him on the bench or lineup.
by ColoradoAggie11 on Oct 22, 2009 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think GK said he was only going to play JR one half while he figures out what lineups to use during the suspension
by runningdonut on Oct 22, 2009 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
AC
Even though we have six to, here’s AC at his best
by samdman on Oct 22, 2009 8:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
AC turnover
Allen off the bench before Balkman
by runningdonut on Oct 22, 2009 8:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
this doesn’t make much sense, balkman’s adjusted +/- and efficiency is much better then the playing time he gets
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
jr isn't playing one of the halves
practicing a rotation w/out him
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 8:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
We need a nickname for Ty Lawson
AC with yet another turnover
by runningdonut on Oct 22, 2009 8:51 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Tty Lawsons nickname..
so he has the nickname Teleport?
by stan_26 on Oct 22, 2009 8:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess, never heard it before
that is what the interweb and google told me
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
God damnit AC! Protect the ball!!
Also, stop talking about playing time during the preseason. It has nothing to do with minutes during the regular season. Karl is just trying to get everyone some experience.
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 8:52 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
so then why isn’t balkman getting experience?
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 8:54 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is?
He played almost 25 minutes in the Twolves game.
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck man
I don;t know if I can do a whole nother season of AC
by runningdonut on Oct 22, 2009 8:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
:( Me either
As brilliant as he CAN be, he just makes AWFUL decisions with the ball
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
10 turnovers
Halfway to their average midway through the first half. Just awful.
J.R. is my homeboy
by Greyson on Oct 22, 2009 8:54 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I know that Karl likes having AC out there as the general for the bench but he is making really dumb decisions. Someone else needs to carry the ball up the court, like say the guy we drafted to do that? He also needs to realize that although he had a nice three last year that was an abberation and that he is much better driving and passing out of the drive
by ColoradoAggie11 on Oct 22, 2009 8:58 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
ac sucks
lawson will get more playing time then a rookie normally gets on gk’s teams. north carolina guy and he is super efficient, no fing turnovers. we just have to wait for gk to figure this out.
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 9:00 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
Lawson is young but he knows how to control the ball while also pushing the pace, something Carter has not been able to do in the last two years
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Afflallo
is better at 3 then what i thought..he can be reliable from downtown
by stan_26 on Oct 22, 2009 9:04 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
what do you expect when ac is playing so much
can we nick name him the “turnover machine”?
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMTO
Last year he was known as the One Man Turn Overf
by samdman on Oct 22, 2009 9:10 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Very Sloppy
Too many turnovers and stupid fouls
by ColoradoAggie11 on Oct 22, 2009 9:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Afflalo
Gotta stop stepping out of bounds
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 9:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Same old, same old.
I’m not too happy with some of the “non-moves” this team made in the offseason. I don’t know if I can take another GK/AC orchestrated operation for a full 82 games.
Melo will have a MAJOR year- but GK & AC are this team’s liabilities!
by Verbal Kint on Oct 22, 2009 9:42 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
gk
i know this sites history, but at this point who would you rather bring in then gk?
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't hate that idea
gk isn’t gone unless we really struggle, he bought himself some time after last year’s performance. kroenke loves putting these coaches in lame duck situation
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here we go
You have a Hall of famer on the bench in AC
by samdman on Oct 22, 2009 9:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
ad has no head coaching expereince
remember the michael cooper experiment, and he had head coaching experience
by jgisland on Oct 22, 2009 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
GK had no Coaching experience when he started either Yeah I remember Cooper
And that BS that got rid of Bzedlic
by samdman on Oct 22, 2009 9:53 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kenyon is SO GOOD at that pull-chair move.
He uses it soooooooo well.
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 9:53 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Geez, Kobe.....-sigh-
This SOB will haunt us for the next 5 years. What a move!
by Verbal Kint on Oct 22, 2009 9:54 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah
Kobe can be beaten. It’s the rest of the Lakers I’m worried about.
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Precisely!
If they get good, not great, contributions from their supporting cast, they’ll likely repeat.
We, on the other hand, have to have all our cylinders at full throttle- just to get back to the WCFinals.
by Verbal Kint on Oct 22, 2009 10:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Why're you beign so defeatist?
Chauncey has had a full training camp, Nene, Kenyon and Birdman are all healthy, Melo is looking better than ever, JR is still JR, Afflalo is definitely an improvement over Dahntay, and Balkman is a more than adequate replacement for Kleiza.
Give it some time.
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 10:05 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
STATEMENT game- even if its preseason.
I can’t believe we didn’t look to get BIGGER in the offseason. We can’t compete against this Lakers team- thats obvious.
by Verbal Kint on Oct 22, 2009 10:04 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
I missed the first 3 minutes of the 3rd quarter but
J.R. hasn’t played yet has he? That’s infuriating to me.
J.R. is my homeboy
by Greyson on Oct 22, 2009 10:07 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
just trying to see how we will be for the first 7 games. So far just sloppy. If weren’t so sloppy we would be winning right now.
Karl said the starters wouldn’t play the final pre-season game if they played well but i think we need at least another half to keep working on protecting the ball and playing better team, or half court, offense.
by ColoradoAggie11 on Oct 22, 2009 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah its time to get ready for the regular season a bit.
We all know about JR’s suspension so…eh
by GottaLoveMelo on Oct 23, 2009 6:40 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a Debbie Downer-
…just being realistic. We stood still, while they got better.
by Verbal Kint on Oct 22, 2009 10:09 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeez...
Another Mbenga swat…I mean, c’mon, DJ MBENGA?!
by Agaliarept on Oct 22, 2009 10:12 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly-
That bench warmer is bigger than anyone we have. It was glaringly obvious last year that SIZE was a factor vs the LakeShow. So why didn’t we address it?
by Verbal Kint on Oct 22, 2009 10:14 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every one got big except the Nuggets.
GK talking that BS that the leauge was catching up with the Nuggets. BS They surpassed us
by samdman on Oct 22, 2009 10:17 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
LAWSON!
What an awesome floater.
Melo is just STROKIN’ it right now.
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 10:19 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Just tuned in
Are we really losing with both Pau and Bynum out?
by GoldenNugget on Oct 22, 2009 10:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
You are Right
The Lakers are in the Nuggets head. They are the Nuggets worst nightmare
by samdman on Oct 22, 2009 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
AC, AC, AC, AC, AC!!!!!
WTF???? the guy’s a turnover waiting to happen.
by Verbal Kint on Oct 22, 2009 10:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
He also took a 18 footer on the fastbreak!
1 on like 3 or 4. I dont want you shooting that shot if you’re WIDE open much less off the dribble on a lopsided fastbreak!
by GottaLoveMelo on Oct 23, 2009 6:48 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't comment much
And I don’t ever panic about preseason games. But Anthony Carter looks awful. I mean terrible. If he sees more time than Lawson this year I will be pissed.
by Business Socks on Oct 22, 2009 10:20 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Get ready to be pissed.
We won’t see much of Lawson or Balkman- book it!
by Verbal Kint on Oct 22, 2009 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll pass on that one
I don’t even want to think of that possibility right now.
by GoldenNugget on Oct 22, 2009 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly
I don’t disagree. Karl is and always will be stubborn in his ways.
by Business Socks on Oct 22, 2009 10:23 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot
to say he needs to be FIRED
by samdman on Oct 22, 2009 10:24 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh...
I’m not liking the look of our defensive rotations. How many times are we leaving a man wide open? We’re getting killed out there.
by Agaliarept on Oct 22, 2009 10:21 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Carter really does look terrible.
That steal attempt on Vujacic left Brown wide open for that corner three
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 10:21 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
My hate for GK
is at mid-season level.
by Verbal Kint on Oct 22, 2009 10:23 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
We have JOSH POWELL shooting fadeaway jumpers in the post over our best shot blocker. _
by Agaliarept on Oct 22, 2009 10:24 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Lawson is going to be great and Balkman is getting PT this season.
You guys are a bunch of chicken littles. Give me a break.
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 10:25 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Ty Lawson, clearly, CLEARLY, looks like the better backup PG option
If Karl latches onto Carter, like he is apt to do with sh!tty players, I will call for his head.
by Business Socks on Oct 22, 2009 10:26 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Unless we’re winning of course. AC can play 48 minutes a game for all I care if we’re successful. Although I’m just nitpicking. :/
by Agaliarept on Oct 22, 2009 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah if we're winning
I worry there won’t be too much of that winning stuff if Carter gets extensive minutes this year.
by Business Socks on Oct 22, 2009 10:28 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
BSwats-
We’ve seen this movie before. Until proven otherwise, this is GK’s philosophy. AC has to screw up ROYALLY & REPEATEDLY, before getting benched for a rookie. And Balkman won’t see time because of offensive liabilities, Guaranteed- just watch.
by Verbal Kint on Oct 22, 2009 10:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
You're wrong
Lawson is going to develop a lot like Rose did this season because it is clear that he’s the more gifted backup talent.
Carter is going to have his bad games. You have to accept this.
Balkman WILL see time because we have more than enough offensive firepower to make up for his “offensive liabilities”, and he provides a stellar boarding and defensive effort.
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 10:31 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Believe me-
I hope i’m wrong!
We watched & waited for balkman to get PT last year, & nothing happened. AC lost big games w/ bonehead plays, yet he still got extensive PT.
Lawson looks like a keeper, but GK doesn’t like rookies- check his history.
As for Balkman, he would be perfect as our own Artest, but he sits on the bench until garbage time.
Its the way the guy coaches, & you’ll be a witness all year long.
by Verbal Kint on Oct 22, 2009 10:38 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
AC has never had to earn minutes
He is the default choice for GK regardless of how he plays. George Karl explained to a reporter that he doesn;t look at turnovers or statistics and trusts AC’s experience which is why he likes to play him a lot.
by runningdonut on Oct 23, 2009 1:31 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats because..
GK is a dumbfuck.
by GottaLoveMelo on Oct 23, 2009 6:50 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flash
GK just got a 5year contract extension
by samdman on Oct 22, 2009 10:30 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
everytime I look at the TV
anthony carter has another turnover or lawson is looking nice…whatchu lookin at George Karl?
by GottaLoveMelo on Oct 22, 2009 10:31 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Pick and Roll
And least we defended it well that time. Haven’t been really paying attention to it lately.
by Agaliarept on Oct 22, 2009 10:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
$$$$$$$$$
How much would it cost to buy a “bench AC” billboard? Would anyone want to pitch in?
by adub on Oct 22, 2009 10:33 PM MDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
While you're at it
How about a Fire George Karl bench
by samdman on Oct 22, 2009 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
GK got to do some teaching!
The announcer is saying that the Nuggets are in dire straights.
by samdman on Oct 22, 2009 10:37 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
Night guys
good effort by Melo tonight. Kinda disappointing to see Balkman and JR get no PT, but I understand.
Quick stats:
Melo had 5 turnovers, Afflalo had SIX, Carter had 5, Chauncey had 4.
Melo had 28/6/3, Chauncey had 19/6/5.
Swats.
by BeefySwats on Oct 22, 2009 10:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs
PT for your TOs: Melo 32 min, AA 28 min, AC 11 min, CB 34 min.
While all those turnover numbers are terrible, you can’t compare AC’s production with the others. That’s leaving out the fact that AC contributed nothing else except one asst, while the others had contributions in other areas.
by cessair on Oct 22, 2009 10:48 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think he was defending AC, just pointing it out.
by Agaliarept on Oct 22, 2009 10:51 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t trying to attack beefy, though reading it myself, it seems a little that way. Just wanted to point out the difference.
by cessair on Oct 22, 2009 10:55 PM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 turnovers in 11 minutes is ridiculous
Afflalo and Billups also played unacceptably bad. The Nuggets were missing JR and Balkman but they just got mopped up by the Lakers JV squad. Seriously they lost in the fourth quarter against LA’s scrubs. Hopefully they will play better tomorrow but man that was a truly embarrassing team effort.
by runningdonut on Oct 23, 2009 12:57 AM MDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nene didnt look good
i kinda nervous that this summer w the broken arm he just relaxed and didnt train, it kinda looks like it
by hvino on Oct 23, 2009 7:30 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs
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