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A Las Vegas detente?...

Greetings from my hotel room at the Venetian in Las Vegas. I'm sorry for the tardy update but the internet in my room has been painfully slow all morning and I finally got it to work (you'd think I was staying at the Orleans or something).

Where do I start?

I came to Vegas to enjoy a mini two-day vacation and watch a few prospects - both on the Nuggets and other teams - and I ended up hanging out with the Nuggets top brass and reaching somewhat of a detente with George Karl and his lawyer who threatened to sue me last year.

How's that for a Vegas bender?

First, I have to paint a picture of Summer League for you, because it's really fun. Games are played simultaneously in two gyms; the 19,000 person capacity Thomas & Mack Center and the 2,500 capacity Cox Pavilion which is adjacent to the larger venue. Your $25 all-day ticket gives you access to both venues and, as I'd been told, it's a very relaxed, casual atmosphere chock full of NBA executives, coaches, scouts and players - former, current and aspiring. If you're an NBA junkie like me, everywhere you turn you see a recognizable face.

When I first walked in, the Suns summer league squad was facing off against the Raptors at Cox. So I peaked in and standing right there was Kiki Vandeweghe. I introduced myself as a lifelong season ticket holder and the proprietor of this blog. We made some small talk about Denver and then a few Nets employees came up to him to discuss business, so I left Kiki alone. It's too bad I didn't get a chance to thank him for sandbagging us with Kenyon Martin's contract (I probably wouldn't have had the guts to say that anyway).

Since the Cox gym was pretty filled up, I sauntered over to the Thomas & Mack gym to catch the last few minutes of the Kings summer league team facing off against the D-League "All-Stars". As the game was winding down, the Nuggets brass of Bret Bearup, Mark Warkentien and Rex Chapman arrived (separately), as did the entire Nuggets summer team and the assistant coaches such as John Welch, Chad Iske, Stacey Augmon and Adrian Dantley.

With the game being a snoozer and the arena virtually empty, I had a chance to talk to Bearup, Warkentien and Chapman - all of whom I met briefly during the playoffs - and while I can't confirm that they read this blog every day, they definitely know about it. They were gracious with their time and we talked generally about the Nuggets summer league team's poor shooting from the night before and a bit about the Arron Afflalo trade getting a lot of support among the fans. Warkentien and I also talked about how people routinely mess up the pronunciation of our last names (we're both "teens" in case you're curious).

With the Nuggets game about to tip off, Bearup and Chapman sat right at courtside in reserve seating, and I got to sit in the first row after courtside. There's nothing special about this as anyone can sit in the first row - one of the many things that makes summer league so cool. And at the end of the Nuggets bench on the basket side were Doug Moe and Tim Grgrich.

Before tip off, my friend Chris Tomasson - formerly of the Rocky Mountain News and now writing for ProBasketballNews.com, USA Today and the Rocky Mountain Independent - came over and we caught up on all things Nuggets. As Tomasson and I were talking in comes Karl, who sat many rows above me next to Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy and right near Warkentien.

The game kicked off, and I found myself trying to do two things at once: follow the game and keep an eye on Karl for a good moment to introduce myself. I figured any conversation between Karl and I would be awkward, so I didn't want to do it in front of anyone else and didn't want to bug him while he was watching his son Coby play.

Soon into the game, I observed a few things (many of which I "tweeted" about)...

...Ty Lawson has a ridiculously quick first step and crossover dribble. He was blowing by the Wizards defenders and getting to the rim with ease. The problem was that when he got to the rim, he wasn't able to get a clean shot off over taller, more agile defenders like JaVale McGee. McGee had five blocks in the game and all five may have been on Lawson shot attempts. And Lawson is small, like 5'10" I'm guessing. If/when Lawson figures out how to get his shot off against NBA bigs or dupe them into leaving their men for an easy assist, he'll be fine.

...Sonny Weems is a mess out there. I know he gets a lot of love from the readers of this blog, but I frankly don't understand why. He takes bad shots, doesn't look for the point guard off the defensive rebound, doesn't have a particularly good shooting stroke and never looks to pass. Watching Weems play made me even more relieved that the Nuggets acquired Afflalo.

...The "big men" on the Nuggets summer league team aren't that big, but they have some plusses. Richard Hendrix - my pick for a training camp invite - is probably closer to 6'7" but he has long arms and great hands. You could tell he knows how to tip rebounds to himself and corral the basketball against much taller defenders. I'd call him a "smart rebounder" based on what I saw. Cedric Simmons has really long arms, but not particularly good hands and he even air balled a free throw. And C.J. Giles has the height, but doesn't seem to have the weight to bang with the McGees and the Andray Blatches of the NBA. And as a side note, Blatche is enormous in person. I had no idea. Big body, long arms. He absolutely dominated the Nuggets (and kudos to new Denver Stiffs reader "Garrett" for suggesting the Nuggets acquire Blatche a while back).

...Kareem Rush was automatic when he was open, but had difficulty creating his own shot and missed all of his three's. His competition at two-guard, Coby Karl and Ronald Dupree, played much better.

But again, I wasn't focusing on the game as much as I probably should have been. After the first quarter, I walked over to Doug Moe - my hero - and introduced myself. We talked for a while and I thanked him for teaching me every bad word when I was a little kid (growing up I'd often sit with Denver Stiffs reader "Mordecai" at the old McNichols Arena and from their seats you could literally hear everything Moe said on the sidelines). Moe laughed and said he couldn't take responsibility for that. And when I showed him my Denver Stiffs business card ("Stiffs" being an homage to him) I could tell he got a kick out of it. Unfortunately - and not surprisingly - Moe has never read a blog, doesn't read blogs and will never read a blog.

But meeting Moe was just the appetizer. Getting a chance to talk to George Karl - the man I tried to get fired a year ago - was the main course.

With about two minutes to go in the half, George Karl was finally alone. I decided that I had to talk to Karl before someone else pestered him. So I walked about twenty rows up to where Karl was sitting and just before I was going to introduce myself, Warkentien (who was sitting one row behind Karl and about five seats over) blurts out: "Hey Andrew, why don't you say hi to George?" The second Warkentien said that, I could tell Karl knew exactly who I was.

So I sat right down next to George Karl - a guy I skewered daily on this blog last Spring but applauded this season - and said: "It's nice to meet you, I'm the guy who launched FireGeorgeKarl.com." George said: "Oh, yeah?" in his Karl-esque tone and shook my hand. We made some awkward small talk and I don't think either of us felt all that comfortable. When I mentioned that I had changed the site name a while back, he said: "To Denver Stiffs, right?" So I guess he knew. We talked for a few minutes about the culture of the Nuggets changing last summer and the successful season we just had. I thanked him for the job he did this past season and he wouldn't take the credit, instead citing how hard his assistant coaches and players worked and acknowledging that a lot of things had to "come together" for them to have the season they had. After a few more minutes, the NBATV guys came over to interview Karl, so I just said "nice to meet you" and he said "likewise" and I excused myself. Considering the circumstances, Karl was a good sport. But I wasn't done talking to Karl for the night.

After my conversation with Karl, I went back down to my front row seat. A few moments later, none other than Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke walked over in my direction. I introduced myself as a lifelong season ticket holder and thanked him (I was doing a lot of thanking, apparently) for his stewardship of our franchise since taking over. I shared with him that my family has had tickets since the ABA days and Kroenke immediately lit up with appreciation and thanked me for supporting the team. Unlike Commissioner Stern, Kroenke was happy to do a stop and chat! Before he moved on to talk to the Wizards Mike Miller (in the stands with Antawn Jamison), I told Kroenke that I'd be sure to say hi at games this season to which he replied that he looked forward to seeing me again.

With the game coming to a close, I watched closely as Tomasson interviewed Moe, Karl and Afflalo, who was sitting next to Karl, now situated behind the basket. Watching Tomasson work up close, I have a whole new appreciation for what he does and have no interest in doing that myself. It's just a shame that Tomasson hasn't landed with a major outfit to cover our Nuggets.

I welcomed Afflalo to Denver, told him I represent a Pepsi Center-sized collection of Nuggets fans worldwide (which is true) and informed him that the fans are universally happy to have him in Denver. He smiled from ear-to-ear and thanked me. Then Karl turned to Afflalo and said something like: "Watch out. That's the guy who launched FireGeorgeKarl.com" in a joking manner. I could tell Karl was much more relaxed and comfortable now. Karl then said to me: "You didn't even notice but I signed your Bring Back Birdman petition."

Now here's the best part. When the game concluded, Karl got up, put both of his hands on the back of my shoulders and marched me in the direction of a guy sitting in the stands wearing shorts and an orange polo shirt. "Hey Bret," Karl called out. "This is the guy who launched FireGeorgeKarl.com!" It was none other than Bret Adams, Karl's attorney and business partner who had threatened to sue me a year ago and made this blog famous. Adams and I shook hands, I asked if I could have a seat next to him and we proceeded to talk about the whole ordeal for about a half hour. And just like Warkentien, Bearup, Chapman, Kroenke and Karl himself, Adams couldn't have been any nicer. Adams admitted he didn't quite grasp the potency of the blogosphere but had to do what he felt was right to defend his client and friend. He said what really bothered him about the old site was that some readers were taking shots at Coby. I told him that I screen every comment and immediately take anything down that crosses the line, especially family related. And when I told Adams that the number one profession among bloggers are lawyers like him (also true), he laughed and replied: "But I hate lawyers."

At the end of the night, I told Karl and Adams that I'd like to take Karl to lunch and do an official, on-the-record interview here at Denver Stiffs and they both agreed to it. So there will be more to come!

Before I get accused of sucking up to the organization, you have to understand how surreal and yet fascinating this night was for me. Here I am - not just a blogger but the biggest Nuggets fan on the planet - talking to the very people that I've fiercely criticized and later applauded when they deserved it. And yet every one of them - Bearup, Warkentien, Karl, Chapman, Kroenke and Adams - were nothing short of gracious, honest and forthcoming. It probably helps when I can say that I pay for tickets and write the most read Nuggets blog, but they could have easily given me the cold shoulder. My only regret is that I didn't bring my camera to take pictures of all this.

Now that I've met all these guys, what's next for Denver Stiffs? Seeing Tomasson work and knowing my own job/work situation, I'm never going to be - nor do I want to be - a guy who breaks the news. Given that this isn't my full-time job, I prefer my role of commenting on the news from the fan's perspective. But moving forward, I have no doubt that I can do this job better and with a new level of education and access that very few bloggers have (although that is rapidly changing as more and more bloggers are getting credentialed at games).

When the new Denver Stiffs launches in a few weeks, I believe that getting to know the guys who run and coach the team we love will only benefit the new version of this site. I just hope that what happened in Vegas continues so that I can bring the great readers of this blog the best Nuggets coverage possible from the (not so) cheap seats!

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Good Stuff Andrew. Thanks!

by Kaley on Jul 16, 2009 2:42 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

loved this article. nice work.

by Kyle on Jul 16, 2009 3:02 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

That is awesome Feinowitzbergerstein. Wish I could have joined you.

by Blazer Maniac on Jul 16, 2009 3:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy shit, awesome story.

I'm actually headed to Vegas tomorrow, and I wasn't sure if I was going to hit any of the summer league stuff. This may have swayed me. Great story. If I go I'll try and snap some pictures on my phone.

by Chris C. on Jul 16, 2009 3:07 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great story. It is really great that those guys took time to talk with you and treat you with respect. Karl especially could have refused to speak with you or been terse and short. Big ups to Karl!

This story could make me reconsider Vegas. I have previously sworn off any trips there. The whole town reminds me of some bad futuristic movie about America in which everything has become fake and plastic on the outside and dirty and poorly run on the inside. Plus, you can't move five feet without being accosted by either a timeshare salesperson or those guys handing out cards for hookers. Yuck...

by KarlSucks on Jul 16, 2009 3:12 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

You the man!!!

I've met many Denver athletes over the years but nothing probably compares to having 1v1 talks with the people you just did...

by danjustin on Jul 16, 2009 3:15 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Andrew, no way you got anywhere near that much face time if you were up in the gym with a camera hanging around your neck. You strategically worked your way into good conversations unknowingly there.

Good stuff though. I still want to ride Karl for some of his ways, but just as any other coach, he has a style, and it works for him to a large degree (although we need to see it actually attain a championship one of these days.) So we can't be too harsh on a man who actually can be admired for NOT changing in the face of harsh criticism he's received over the years (back to Seattle I'm sure).

An interview with GK will go a loooong way for your site Andy, don't screw it up!!! LOL.

I hope Karl holds true to his honor and follows thru on it, and maybe that leads to even more doors opening (aka PLAYER interviews) and some better exposure leading to who knows what else...

Finally I have to show some admiration for your even being able to write a blog from Vegas. I can't imagine I'd have made the time to do so, or would have been in my room without a hangover or a hooker... Yummmmm hookers!

(Just kidding, that was a play on the KarlSucks post. Hookers are nasty.) And sorry KarlSucks, but the world is already as you describe. Just buck up and enjoy the ride bro!

by Eric K on Jul 16, 2009 3:23 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Definitely one of the top 5 all-time best DenverStiffs posts.

by MJKeenan on Jul 16, 2009 3:46 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow! great read Andy, I probably wouldn't have recognized anyone but Karl, Kiki, and Moe, and I don't think I would have talked to Karl. Also I would have avoided Kiki. My little bro was kinda messed up on All-Star weekend here in Denver a couple of years back, and tried to pick a fight with him, although I'm sure Kiki couldn't make out one drunken slur from him. And probably felt bad for him too.

I'm looking forward to the Karl interview if it goes down. Who knows you might end up with a locker room pass or something in the future. After the twitter post I thought for sure that Karl and his lawyer were still looking to take your site down or something.

I think we can all agree that this is the best Nuggets blog around. And that hookers are gross.

by Joelsopinion on Jul 16, 2009 4:05 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice work.

by Pusherman on Jul 16, 2009 4:08 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's the big question... Did George Karl really sign the Birdman petition?

I'm not that hardcore of a basketball fan, but that definitely sounds like an awesome time. I wonder why more people don't do it when they can meet people like that.

by Anonymous on Jul 16, 2009 4:46 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Careful Andrew, these guys are trained professionals! They'll twist you and turn you so that you think their words are actually your own.

Have fun with the GK lunch. That should be a trip. And do take some credit for representing the very people who he truly serves, the fans. I am really looking forward to reading how that goes.

And rest assured, if you go too soft on us, we'll be here to keep you honest.

by My3Cents on Jul 16, 2009 4:49 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice work Andrew! That sounds like a blast. I hope this leads to bigger and better things. Seriously, you are dedicated man, I don't think I could do anything productive if I was in Vegas.

On another note, I still hope the Nuggets are going to make a big move this offseason. With all the other teams loading up on players, we need to do something to stay competitive. We really need a big guy to battle down low. Maybe you can give some suggestions to the Nuggets brass if and when you get the chance. Not that you would have any pull, but its worth a shot.

by CO_Nugs420 on Jul 16, 2009 4:56 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great article. Thanks for all that you do. What a reward! George Karl cracks me up. Now work the refs a little more in the playoffs and we're holding a championship parade. Go Nuggets.

by Winston on Jul 16, 2009 5:12 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Andrew I'm so jealous!! LOL J/k, I've read this blog since it was called firegeorgekarl.com and you have improved the material and the blog tremendously since that time. I am proud to be a Denverstiffs reader, and very loyal to this blog for the mere fact that as a true Nuggets fan, you can understand the plight of the rest of us. I would honestly much rather read insight from a real fan, then some guy who came to colorado simply for a job (hochman). That being said, the more you can get integrated and familiar with the inside workings of the Nuggs, the better for Denverstiff readers. Keep up the good work!

by Brandon on Jul 16, 2009 5:49 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great read, great story. Make your presence felt in the Nuggets club, hopefully they hire you as a consultant. Or upgrade your seats at the Pepsi Center, either one.

by The Lark on Jul 16, 2009 6:02 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

I also enjoyed this story...This was quite a diplomatic stance to take to confront the people you talk about and give credit where it is due... and to have a gracious exchange...I applaud both sides.

I have been a little out of the loop so I knew the the source to get caught up.

Anyways I am very pleased about Affalo and Hendrix...it would be nice if Koby earns his spot...I was impressed with his passing when I did see him play in the NBA, he is definitely a team player.

If we could just get a big man without forcing the issue I am fairly comfortable with what the Nuggets have to work with next season, just use the talent we have including Balkman...and if we can't capitalize on the big man then keep your eye on it....forcing an issue or a decision can be dangerous though.

CB

by Anonymous on Jul 16, 2009 6:05 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh man, you really pulled one off Andy. By far the best post I have yet to read on Denver Stiffs and I can already tell the interview with Karl is going to be epic. I am kind of self-conscious now writing this knowing that all the Nuggets FO and coaches know about this blog. I wonder if they read it from time to time? It just seems weird that trades you proposed came true. But man, I have to tell you I am bummed out about Kamla. I have always thought Kamla was a real guy and I loved what he has to say about the NBA, in fact I was just posting on the ESPN NBA board about how cool Kamla is. Idk, I might have to re-think this one. And one more thing, what type of blog are you changing this to Andy? Is it an SB Nation blog? Those are real cool.

Oh, and ONE more thing. MAKE SURE YOU CONFRONT HIM ABOUT COBY KARL IF HE MAKES THE TEAM!!! I know you aren't a reporter but you will be for that interview and it is key to ask these types of things that he may not want to discuss.

by Goldennugget on Jul 16, 2009 6:36 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff Andrew. You really did give Karl his credit throughout the playoffs, I'm sure it would've been much more awkward had you continued to call for his ousting. One of my favorite posts, especially for its weirdness. Also, good to hear you're the most-read Nuggets blogger. Take that, Roundball Mining Company!

by Robin Z on Jul 16, 2009 6:36 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff, Andrew... I'm planning to do the Summer League myself next year. Fun living vicariously through your experience in the meantime.

by Brian on Jul 16, 2009 8:28 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great read! Thanks...

btw, you wouldn't have happen to mention DeAndre Jordan to Wark???

Great to see the lighter side of the Nugs Brass. Looking forward to the GK interview. Wouldn't mind seeing Coby here either, hard worker, good handle, intelligent, good shooter (big PG?).

by iamhe77 on Jul 16, 2009 9:04 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Andrew,
I just have to ask.
How do you feel about nepotism?

by samiam on Jul 16, 2009 11:09 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Andrew I believe I speak for almost all the Denver stiff readers, when I say "that was one sweet article!"

I'm very excited about how you have become one of the major faces in nuggets nation.

I really hope when you have your interview with Karl it goes well.

I know its only July. But I can still hear in my ears. "CAN YOU FEEL IT?" I think we all can. (heck you have almost as many readers during the off season as you do during the season)


IT might be just me, but I think our nuggets will do something really special next season.

Keep up the good work Andrew.
AND GO NUGGETS!!!!!

by Agent Fisher on Jul 17, 2009 12:08 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Ask them when we're getting a big defensive center to take pressure off of Nene?

by Denverson on Jul 17, 2009 12:34 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's coach's signature:

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/bringbackbirdman/signatures/400

he's #446. Hilarious.

by Nick C. on Jul 17, 2009 12:49 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

My only issue with the article was one quote "The biggest Denver nuggets fan ever" Some of us might take that poorly, especially Vicky and her husband

by Zachm219 on Jul 17, 2009 1:34 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Amazing stuff Andrew! I can't wait to see what the new Denver Stiffs look like. The only suggestion I have is maybe you can suggest a kind of collaboration with Jeremy or Nate from Roundballminingco and Pickaxeandroll. I know that all of you guys have great opinions on everything Nuggets and I think that it probably wouldn't be too hard to create a kind of Nuggets hub of info/opinions/etc.. Maybe one day some of the players will give shout outs to DenverStiffs like they do to Need4Sheed.

Anyways, just a suggestion. Keep up the great stuff.

by GONUGS on Jul 17, 2009 4:32 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great article Andrew! The interview is going to be very interesting...

by ilias on Jul 17, 2009 7:29 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

That is awesome, thanks for sharing your experience there! Enjoy the rest of the week, I can't wait to hear how rest of it goes!

by Alex on Jul 17, 2009 7:47 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great article Andrew, probably the best yet from you. Would love to hear more going ons from Vegas :)

- Snake -

by Anonymous on Jul 17, 2009 7:53 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

That is awesome that he did sign it. If he caught you off guard, I think you should be sure to revisit it in a future interview and you can always mention the fact that like Twitter, there are very little validation efforts to ensure that wasn't somebody else signing as Karl so he should forgive the skepticism.

Interview #2: Gotta be the Birdman.

by Eric K on Jul 17, 2009 8:30 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Straight from ESPN.com...

"If the Jazz can't complete a three-team deal involving one of the few teams possessing cap space when they ultimately move Boozer, they'll either be trying to work with a team that has a good-sized trade exception (Miami, New Jersey and Denver all qualify)"

I don't think they would like to move Boozer to another team in the NW, but hey, it's a possibility.

by Goldennugget on Jul 17, 2009 10:40 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Nuggets fans everywhere require a Denverstiffs-exclusive interview with the Birdman. Call his agent and make it happen.

by Nick C. on Jul 17, 2009 11:39 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Andrew,

The benefits of all of your time, efforts and money have paid off! For me, this site has been a great place to rally around our Nuggets and cheer them on with other fans... along with getting scoops and staying involved in the organization throughout the summer.

I agree about Tomasson. Post writers are writing subaverage work compared to what Chris has done for us in the past with the Rocky. Hopefully, he can still cover our team in the future years.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. My stop and chats with Warkentien and Kiki near my seats don't compare to the Las Vegas time you had... I'm glad Karl has chosen to forgive and move past it. I was frustrated at that point as well. I made a sign for the '08 First Round, Game 4 vs. the Lakers that said "KarlMelo Must Go!"... (as in, either Karl or Melo must go)... but never showed it since they played a decent farewell game. They almost didn't let me into the Pepsi Center with that one. I was still quite pissed at the effort on the court.

Keep up the good work... looking forward to the new site and new T-Shirts when you get around to it. And remember, 35% of next season's ticket order is due today. Though I'm happy to pay it this year, since the progress we made in '08-09. My hope is that the relative inactivity on the free agent market compared to the other elite West teams will not come back to bite us. Will stability return us to the Western Conference Finals?

--Tim

by Tim on Jul 17, 2009 12:54 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

"I support this petition, and will not be fired"

-Coach Karl

by Anonymous on Jul 17, 2009 12:55 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Sweet post Andrew! Great to see you getting some props from the FO and Karl. You've been doing good work since firegeorgekarl.com and have been getting better and better. I can't wait to see what the future holds for both the Nugs and your blog.

Bummer to hear about Kamla though. As GN mentioned he seems super cool on NBATV, too bad he acted like a douche to you.

by AlexRidesBikes on Jul 17, 2009 1:57 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

@ GN and AlexRidesBikes -

I want to clarify the Rick Kamla thing. Yes, he did blow me off on Wednesday night but we ended up at the same dinner together on Thursday night, and he reached out to me to apologize and explain why. It's a long story that I can't/won't get into, but he's a good guy and we're totally cool now. So no hating on Kamla please!

All best,

Andrew

by Andrew on Jul 17, 2009 3:03 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

i was at the game and witnessed george introduce you to his lawyer as i was leaving...that's how i heard about this blog. it was cool to read about your experience. it was also neat to see all the coaches and players kicking back and enjoying themselves. keep up the good work.
-Alberto

by Anonymous on Jul 19, 2009 3:29 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice work! Great coverage this summer. This has been and continues to be the first place I go to read about Nuggets basketball.

You deserve the attention you received in Vegas.

by JTR on Jul 19, 2009 1:10 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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