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The first ever Denver Stiffs draft recap...

This blog isn't old enough to have had an NBA Draft Recap column. In fact, prior to tonight you'd have to go back to 2006 to even evaluate a Nuggets draft pick. That year, the Nuggets took Leon Powe 49th and promptly traded him to the Celtics for a future second round pick (which in a roundabout way turned into J.R. Smith via Chicago).

As a result of this prolonged absence from participating in the draft, the post-Kiki Vandeweghe Administration of Bret Bearup, Mark Warkentien and Rex Chapman has been accused annually (by yours truly among others) of being lazy with the draft and not properly valuing it. Having no first round pick in 2006 wasn't the present administration's fault as that pick was dealt to the Nets as part of the Kenyon Martin trade, foolishly orchestrated by Kiki. And having no pick in 2007 was understandable in that the pick had been traded to the Sixers in order for the Nuggets to acquire Allen Iverson (a trade most Nuggets fans - including this one - whole heartily agreed with at the time).

But last year, with the Nuggets having just been swept by the Lakers (who have benefited greatly from deft late round drafting) and sitting at 20th in a seemingly deep draft, reached a new level of disappointment when the Nuggets brass dealt the pick to the Bobcats for an overly protected future first round pick. By doing so, the Nuggets passed on Ryan Anderson, Courtney Lee, Nicolas Batum, Darrell Arthur and Mario Chalmers.

I don't want to dwell on the past but rather give Thursday night's welcome acquisition of Ty Lawson some context. First off, by proactively inserting themselves into a draft that they didn't have their own first round pick in, the Nuggets brass dissuaded some of the fears that they're content to sit these drafts out each summer. The bottom line is that grabbing Lawson now for that overly protected Bobcats pick was a good move. As noted in the initial recap of the trade, Lawson at 18th overall might be a steal. He's tough, he's a winner and he's thrived against the absolute best that college basketball has to offer. As a junior at the University of North Carolina, Lawson averaged 16.6 ppg on 53.2% shooting to go along with 6.6 apg and 2.1 spg. In fact, Lawson impressively never shot worse than 50% from the field in college.

Furthermore, he addresses one of the Nuggets most glaring needs - backup point guard (sorry, Anthony Carter, but your ultimate replacement has arrived) - and (even though this shouldn't be the case) by having a North Carolina pedigree Lawson is one of the rare rookies who might see playing time in Nuggets coach George Karl's "rotation." And lest we forget who Lawson's mentor is going to be. None other than Chauncey Billups, one of the top five point guards in the entire NBA.

That being said, there are some negatives associated with Lawson, as well. He's less than six feet tall, has an awkward and somewhat slow released jump shot and allegedly has a poor wingspan (incidentally, "wingspan" was ESPN's Jay Bilas' favorite word of the night during the draft). Therefore, while his upside might be akin to other successful, short but stocky point guards like Mookie Blaylock, Terrell Brandon or Tim Hardaway, his downside could be akin to Mateen Cleaves or Khalid El-Amin.

My prediction is that Lawson falls somewhere in between the names noted above and works himself into a solid backup point guard for years to come.

Based on the comments that came into the Denver Stiffs Virtual Chat and the ongoing post during the draft, Nuggets Nation seems almost universally behind the Lawson trade (although I did appreciate one of the comments in the chat suggesting he'd rather the Nuggets have just taken Chalmers last year in the first place).

What the Nuggets did with their second pick - 34th overall - however, has proved to be more controversial.

With the euphoria over the Lawson acquisition still lingering, Nuggets fans everywhere couldn't help but notice that when the first round concluded, some notable names were still available: Sam Young, DeJuan Blair, Derrick Brown, Jodie Meeks, Chase Budinger, Danny Green and Nick Calathes. But the name that stood out the most on that list was Blair, who led his University of Pittsburgh team to a number one seed in the NCAA tournament, dominated in the always tough Big East conference and had previously been projected to be a lottery pick. And when the Kings took Jeff Pendergraph at 31, the Wizards took Jermaine Taylor at 32 and the Blazers took Dante Cunningham at 33, the going assumption was that DeJuan Blair would be the next Nugget and the real steal of the draft. And then ESPN cut to commercial and came back a couple picks later. What the - ?!!

Scrambling online to find who the Nuggets picked during the unending commercial break, the Tweets and Virtual Chat posts came in fast and furious: the Nuggets had drafted an unknown Spaniard named Sergio Llull (kudos go to HoopsWorld who accurately predicted this earlier in the day). Since drafting Llull for the purposes of him joining the Nuggets - with Blair and so many others still available - made absolutely no sense, I immediately did some calling, texting, emailing and digging and found out that the Nuggets were just drafting Llull for the Rockets, to whom they had sold the pick (and this no joke) for an NBA record $2.25 million for a second round pick. And from what I'm hearing, that $2.25 million will be applied directly to re-signing Chris "Birdman" Andersen.

On a side note, I can't wait for about seven to nine years from now when the name "Sergio Llull" will completely escape me when asked: name who the Nuggets drafted in the second round of 2009.

So before we make an early call on passing on Blair or the others, we must ask ourselves: does an NBA record sale of a second round pick in order to give a franchise that loses millions annually some financial relief so they may re-sign the best backup center in the league not named Zydrunas Ilgauskus who also happens to be a fan favorite better than taking a flyer on Blair? (How's that for a run-on sentence?)

Given the Nuggets current roster and financial situation, the answer is probably yes for two simple reasons. One, Blair would get no playing time under Karl. And two, the Nuggets needed the financial boost to sign Lawson, re-sign Andersen and possibly make a run at re-signing Dahntay Jones, too.

That being said, I hated seeing the Nuggets pass on Blair, degenerate bad knees or not. I've just always wanted to see the Nuggets be the team that scores one of these undersized but awesome college power forwards who slip into the late first or second round and prove everyone wrong (hence why I advocated for D.J. White last year who did nothing in his rookie year but it's too early to call him a total bust). Of all the draft picks the Nuggets have made in my lifetime, they've never scored one of these guys. Not one. The closest would be Jerome Lane drafted 23rd overall in 1988, but Lane (coincidentally a Pittsburgh alum like Blair) only played five NBA seasons, three-plus with Denver.

Making matters worse, the Spurs of all teams picked up Blair, which means if he's destined to be another one of those Leon Powe / Paul Millsap / Carlos Boozer / Glen Davis "I can't believe this guy slipped into the second round" type power forwards, it will be the Spurs who reap the reward. And making matters even worse, while I hate all things Spurs I can't in good conscience root against Blair who I hope proves the doubters wrong and becomes a solid pro. I feel dirty already.

But at first blush, the Nuggets draft night can be called a success. They picked up a solid backup guard in Ty Lawson who can be plugged into the "system" right away. And they bought themselves additional financial relief to help re-sign their top free agent, Chris Andersen.

Here are some additional quick observations from a busy draft night/week...

...if the Knicks were so hell bent on drafting Stephen Curry, why didn't they make a deal with the Warriors to move up one pick? The Warriors don't know what they're doing and were just going to take the best available player, regardless of position.

...regardless of how former sports writer (there's hope for me after all!) turned TV executive turned Timberwolves GM David Kahn spins it, drafting Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn - both point guards - makes absolutely no sense. I'll give Kahn this, however: when interviewed he takes "The Most Condescending and Most Defensive NBA Executive Award" away from the Nuggets Mark Warkentien. It's not even close.

...by adding Tyler Hansbrough to a team already featuring Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy Jr., Travis Diener, Jeff Foster and Josh McRoberts, the Pacers have built an NBA Finals-caliber team...for 1951. I know Pacers President of Basketball Operations Larry Bird wants to shed the team's "gangsta" image from recent years, but he's going a bit overboard. Besides, the Jazz would love to have at least half these guys. (Alright, enough with the white guy jokes.)

...The Richard Jefferson trade is great for the Spurs. As magical as the Nuggets 2008-09 run was, lest we forget that an injury-riddled Spurs team tied the Nuggets in regular season wins. If Spurs coach Gregg Popovich hadn't thrown one of his team's games against the Nuggets, the Spurs may have gone to the conference finals in spite of those injuries. Now San Antonio has Jefferson, will likely get Bruce Bowen back and has added Blair in the draft. Unless the Nuggets make a big move, look for the Spurs to reclaim their title as the West's second best team.

...Shaquille O'Neal going to the Cavaliers is great for the Nuggets. Instead of nine Western Conference teams competing for eight playoff slots as we saw last season, only eight will be in the running this year as the sun sets on the Suns. Additionally, a George Karl coached Nuggets team is yet to win in Phoenix and I have a hunch that's going to change next season. Thank you, Steve Kerr, for your two years of outstanding work.

If this week was any indication, we're in for a summer full of deals for the Nuggets and their Western Conference rivals. And fortunately for us, the Nuggets are one of the few franchises that aren't in dire straits financially (thanks to an owner who's willing to spend - up to a point - to keep Denver competitive in spite of incurring those annual losses).

It's an exciting time to be a Nuggets fan.

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Just wanted to know, since we are finishng with the topic of the 'suns, Are the uns really going to trade Amare to GS or is tha ant ESPN cooked up scheme, because if Amare is gone too, the Suns are instant bottom feeders. It seems like the trade would make sense too because the Warriors were so desperate to get a big man in the draft and Jordan Hill was sitting there at 7 but they passed on him. Plus Stephen Curry is very similar to Monta Ellis, it seems like they would have to play the same position. But then again the Warriors just opened up backcourt room by dealing Crawford. I am just still very confused about the whole Amare situation

by Zachm219 on Jun 26, 2009 2:55 AM MDT reply actions  

You said we lose millions annually but then at the end you said we aren't in dire straits financially.... did I miss something there?

Anyway, Lawson is a good pick up, (I loved the guy in college, and think he fits extremely well with our needs... of all the picks, he's got the best situation to be groomed in of any of them w/ Karl and Chauncey) but does anyone else have a faint recollection that he might have been busted for puffin herbs while at UNC? I could be wrong there too, but for some reason I thought he carried a wrap with him of some sort. But hey if so, look at Chalmers, who arguably was as stupid as it gets smoking pot at his first NBA function ever.

by Eric K on Jun 26, 2009 8:22 AM MDT reply actions  

And the Wolves drafted 5 guards did they not? Granted 2 were traded but... damn!

by Eric K on Jun 26, 2009 8:22 AM MDT reply actions  

Lawson is a nice pick-up.

They should have drafted Blair. I agree with Andrew, I love it when teams draft the undervalued PF in the second round. I wish that could have been the Nugs. Blair would have helped on the boards and added toughness to an already tough team. Chauncey teaches Ty and K-Mart could have taught Blair. It would have been a beautiful thing.

FYI - the Spurs front office is very good.

by Pusherman on Jun 26, 2009 8:44 AM MDT reply actions  

Hey Eric K -

I just re-read what I wrote and you're right, it's a bit confusing. From what I hear, the Nuggets allegedly lose up to $10 million per year and that's IF they stay under the tax threshold. (So in 2007-08 when they were $13 million over the threshold, they theoretically lost $36 million - $13 mil for being over the cap plus $13 mil paid to the NBA plus the $10 mil they already lose. How's that for a team that got swept?)

However, because their owner Stan Kroenke is SO rich and loves basketball, he's willing to cover those losses to a point and thus, they're not in dire straights financially. He just wants to keep those losses in check.

I've cleaned up the writing a bit so that it makes more sense. Good catch as always...

All best,

Andrew

by Andrew on Jun 26, 2009 8:45 AM MDT reply actions  

Zach - IMO, the Warriors could have been drafting Curry for the Suns.

Erik K - The best athlete in the history of the Olympics smokes pot and the fastest man in history smoked pot. And in NBA terms, the best rookie PG last year, whom yes we should have drafted last year and that way wouldn't have had to trade up this year, got caught smoking pot. Pot obviously does not hinder your success as an athelete.

As for the post...

I am very satisfied with our pick. Losing the Charlotte pick doesn't really bug me that much becuase I think with Larry Brown there they are only going to get better. The same goes for the 2nd rounder. I am sad we couldn't use it on one of the many good player available but if we broke a record and are going to use it on Birdman I don't have a problem with it. The only thing that scares the living crap out of me is the thought of us resigning AC even with Lawson on our roster. It's definatly not out of the question with Karl here.

I heard the T-Wolves are going to trade Rubio this morning, but I am not sure if it's true. I would think it would be since they also drafted yet another PG in Calathes.

by Goldennugget on Jun 26, 2009 9:43 AM MDT reply actions  

Great draft day manuvering by the Nugs. Lawson is a stud and is probably a steal at 18. Great rookie for a backup.

Llull for 2+ million? Great call. Now all the Nugs need to do is trade Nene for a stud center and they will have a chance at the NBA Championship next year.

by Gasus on Jun 26, 2009 10:19 AM MDT reply actions  

Nene IS a stud center.

Lawson = short fat point guard that will fail big time in the NBA.

by Brian on Jun 26, 2009 10:25 AM MDT reply actions  

@GN, I think if the whole world would wake up and smoke a blunt in the morning it would be a better and peaceful place.
If the Nuggets resign Anthony Carter that would be a waste of money that could be put to use in resigning the Birdman or Dahntey Jones. Why would anyone in their right mind resign Carter when we just acquired a pg?TL can't do any worse in his rookie year than what Carter did with ten years of experience. BTW what was the TO stat on TL?
Another thing! Since we have to pay McDyse why don't the FO reach out to him and ask him to play for us?Is Detroit or anyone else going to offer him a contract? The Nuggets might be the only team that he can be part of to get a ring.

by SamIam on Jun 26, 2009 10:29 AM MDT reply actions  

Now I'm starting to understand all of these comments I've been reading on here for the past couple of years.

Everyone really is high!!!!!

by Anonymous on Jun 26, 2009 10:31 AM MDT reply actions  

It would have been cool to get a guy that was a projected lottery pick in the second round. However, I don't think you can really be mad at what the Nuggets did, considering the fact that guy is undersized and has medical issues.

The main thing is that I don't think Blair would put the Nuggets over the top against the Lakers. I could be wrong but I don't think he would match up well with a guy like Gasol (His wingspan is nice but he's only around 6'6 while Gasol is a 7 footer). And while Blair remained healthy in college, NBA seasons are longer and much more grueling.

He IS a health risk and I don't think he would change the outcome of a Nuggets Lakers rematch. So getting a couple million dollars to resign a guy and remain more flexible during free agency is really the best thing. Especially, if it enables them to get a true center or another big.

by Bryan on Jun 26, 2009 10:45 AM MDT reply actions  

You heard it here first the Suns will finish in the playoffs ahead of the Spurs. Unloading Shaq is the best thing the Suns could have ever done. If the Cavs think this will improve their chances in the east they have another thing coming. Look to see Howard scoring 30+ over Shaq just like Duncan has.

by Anonymous on Jun 26, 2009 11:03 AM MDT reply actions  

Why does everyone think Nene's a center? He hates playing there and think the Nuggs should get a real big body so he can move to PF. Everytime he's physically overmatched down low, he loses his head, whines to the officials and loses all effectiveness.

The Nuggs have a decision to make: are they content to win 45-50 games every year with no championship hopes or do you optimized your roster for a champion. Sure Nene's can play out of position and we can be 85% effective and this will get us to the playoffs but when we have to face elite teams 85% will not get us to the finals. This the AI things all over again using roster pieces at sub-optimum positions. You can have AI dominate the ball and win 41-45 games per year but you have no chance in the playoffs

by Anonymous on Jun 26, 2009 12:19 PM MDT reply actions  

Hey GN, it would literally be "the POT calling the kettle black" if I were to have said anything negative about Lawson for having chief'd on some devils lettuce in his past. Wait, disregard that, I'm running for office one of these days... but wait again, presidents have also been known to pass the dutchie. And c'mon, we ARE called the Nuggets! And there's definitely a lot more green nuggets in the state of Colorado nowadays than golden ones. LOL

I was just wondering if I was right...

PS, no worries Andy, but I had no idea that the team actually ran in the red overall and the salary cap and overall revenue P/L statements are two different things.

by Eric K on Jun 26, 2009 12:50 PM MDT reply actions  

Brian,

So Nene is a stud center? 6'10" of flop whine and no defense is a stud center? Granted, he is a stud low post power forward but low post power forwards hardly ever win championships. Look at Barkley, Malone, etc. Defense wins championships and that is what Kmart brings to the Nuggets front line. If the Nugs replace Nene with a good defensive center that has a good mid range jump shot it will open the lane for Billups, Melon, and JR. Now you could probably add Lawson to that mix as he is a stud at getting to the bucket as well. Nene doesn't fit on this team and the FO must realize this if the Nugs are to make a serious run at a championship next year.

by Gasus on Jun 26, 2009 1:48 PM MDT reply actions  

Lawson is terrible. He is the new Chucky Atkins. Three year deal and he will never play and we'll be trying to trade him by the middle of his second season. The Nuggets should have held on to that draft pick in 2010.

Nene is one of the top five centers in the NBA right now. Period.

Show me this center that you refer to that is a good defensive center that has a good mid range jump shot that the Nuggets can acquire. Dwight Howard? Yao Ming?

I guess top five in the NBA in field goal percentage isn't good enough.

Trade Nene and the Nuggets win 45 games and get knocked out in the first round again.

by Brian on Jun 26, 2009 2:31 PM MDT reply actions  

I just heard from an inside source that the nuggs are talking to the suns about a possible Nene/HUNTER trade. Amar'e s not a great defender but he is a true 7footer. Thatd work for me.

by 1NUGS1 on Jun 26, 2009 2:56 PM MDT reply actions  

just heard from an inside source that the nuggs are talking to the suns about a possible Nene/HUNTER trade. Amar'e s not a great defender but he is a true 7footer. Thatd work for me.

Apparently your inside source doesn't know how the NBA works, that trade leaves the nuggets taking on an extra 2+ mil. Furthermore, swapping Nene for Amare doesn't solve the problem that we don't have a legit center. Both Nene and Amare are natural PFs. Furthermore I find it highly unlikely the Suns would be willing to trade an injury plagued PF playing out of position with a huge expiring contract for an injury plagued PF playing out of position with still 3 more years left on his deal. Plus why would the Nuggets want Amare in return? There's no guarantees that he is healthy from serious knee and eye surgeries nor is there any guarantee that he doesn't bolt at the end of next season. This would be a dumb trade on both sides

by Zachm219 on Jun 26, 2009 5:18 PM MDT reply actions  

Amare is not a 7 footer. I'm with Zach, we wouldn't gain anything from that move.

by Artimus Mangilord on Jun 26, 2009 6:47 PM MDT reply actions  

Brian,

How in the world is drafting a backup PG to replace Carter and to be groomed by Billups and reduce his minutes so he doesn't get worn down a bad idea? Last season, whenever Billups went to the bench and A.C. came in, you could almost count on a big run by the opponent. You just had to hope that the nuggets had built up a big enough lead to not lose it while Billups was resting. Most of the websites had Lawson rated as a top 10 player and he led a team to a national championship. Let's see him play before we declare him a bust. And he has a high assist to TO ratio, whereas Carter has a high TO to assist ratio. Without AC in the game, the fans under the basket won't have to worry about getting beaned in the head by 3/4 court passes.

by KarlSucks on Jun 27, 2009 9:26 AM MDT reply actions  

I was not a Lawson fan a year ago, but now I am. He's stronger, smarter, a better leader, a better defender, and can run a team better.

I am ecstatic Nuggets got him. Billups will tutor him and teach him how to shoot and what it takes to be a PG in this L. If Lawson comes out struggling, it's something Billups can relate to, going through it himself. Can't find a better teacher.

In return, Lawson gives a lot of years to Billups' career. Heck if Lawson is a student of the game, which I'm quite certain he is, I'm almost 90% sure he will be a success in this L. He's a good character and teammate already. As long as we don't sign AI to a vet minimum (if he happens to be interested) we won't have any problem (no late night parties/ bad influence).

But problem is far from solved if Nuggets think their off season work is done by getting a desperately needed backup PG. Apart from our own free agents, we need to fix rebounding badly. We won't ever win a title with Nene as our team's leading rebounder (7.8 rpg). We need to get out and get that double digit rebounder or at least someone who's a legit 7 foot or at least who consistently boxes out.

If we improve rebounding, I really like our chances for next season.


- Snake -

by Anonymous on Jun 27, 2009 5:35 PM MDT reply actions  

Didn't Lawson come in here for a workout last year and blow it off or something like that? I vaguely remember something like that.

by Eric K on Jun 27, 2009 6:33 PM MDT reply actions  

OK, this is bs. Now Karl is pushing for management to resign the one man turnover and have Lawson be a 3rd string guy who has to "prove himself". What more does he have to prove??? He was leading a team to a national championship while AC was turning the ball over in crucial times in our first WCFs run in over 20 years! I don't get what there is to prove!!! Especially when we are extremely tight on money!!!

by Goldennugget on Jun 27, 2009 6:49 PM MDT reply actions  

i'm so exited about this pick, a solid back up that can be groomed for the future.
all we need now is another big and i have faith in this front office.

GO NUGGS

by nuggs0611 on Jun 27, 2009 10:19 PM MDT reply actions  

Brian,

You don't know your baskeball. Howard has a good midrange jumpshot? LOL. Memet Okur from Utah and Rasheed Wallace as a free agent just to name two.

by Gasus on Jun 29, 2009 9:26 AM MDT reply actions  

Need a big body?
What about DeAndre Jordan. I know I harped on about him before the trade deadline & cried out for him to be drafted, but c'mon.
6'11", big body with plenty of room to fill out (similar to Dwight), really good shot blocker and rebounder, athletic.
Yes he is raw and does not have a mid-range but he is only 20.
Yeah, we want to win now, but what has anyone over 6'10" besides Nene and Bird contributed to the team this year?
I am sure that DeAndre would do much better than Petro and Hunter is done.
He only makes 800k as well!!!
WTF are we waiting for?
Again, young, big body, athletic, shotblocker/rebounder with a ton of potential...

Sign AC and trade him and Petro to LAC for Jordan and Mardy Collins (then waive Collins - keep him away from Melo)


Oh yeah, and Amare is a 7 footer?
Hahaha! He is "listed" at 6'10", but is much more like 6'8" (much like Nene is more like 6'9" instead of the 6'11" he is listed at).

Amare would add some scoring and rebounding over Nene, but would no doubt become disgruntled as he wouldn't be the star on our team.
Keep Nene.

by iamhe77 on Jun 30, 2009 10:22 PM MDT reply actions  

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