Amundson calls Nene a "dirty player" and a "fake, tough guy"...

by Andrew Feinstein on Mar 24, 2009 6:15 PM MDT

It's fitting that on the same day I suggested Nuggets fans to pay $4.99 a month to subscribe to the InDenverTimes, the publication's Chris Tomasson tracked down Phoenix Suns' forward Louis Amundson (who's from the Denver area) and got him to go on the record about the incident involving Nene last night. Among other things, Amundson is quoted as calling Nene "kind of a dirty player," a "fake, tough guy" and even threw in a soccer reference.

There's no question that Nene was out of line last night and deserved to be immediately ejected, but a dirty player he's not. And I certainly wouldn't question his toughness a year removed from battling cancer and having the best season of his career.

I can't wait for Amundson to show up at Pepsi Center next season...he might get booed more than Kobe Bryant does. Congratulations, Mr. Amundson, you've just earned the #1 spot on the Stiff List!

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Klieza got fined for abusing the refs- back to the top of the stiff list

by Anonymous on Mar 24, 2009 6:34 PM MDT reply actions

Um, except he WAS dirty in that game. There was no reason for him to HEAD BUTT Amundson. I don't care who you are, fan of the Nuggets or not, that is a thug move.

Can't wait for him to go to Pepsi Center next year? That's a thug thing to say as well. Want to win the game? Play like a good sport and not an wannabe thug. And I actually like Nene.

by Anonymous on Mar 24, 2009 7:14 PM MDT reply actions

Hey Anonymous you should see how many times you can say the word thug in one post. And that was not a dirty play, what Sac Randolph did to Amundson was a dirty play. But there is nothing wrong with a little head butt, key word "little". It's not like Nene grabbed him with both hands and thrust his head into Amundson. The bottom line is if there have already been 2 players in the same month that Amundson has been guarding that have tried to get physical with him then he is obviously the one starting stuff here. And how is saying "Can't wait for him to go to Pepsi Center next year" thug in any way? And you say you want Nene to play fair, yet Amundson is the one not even concentrating on playing basketball when he gets in, his only goal is to get other players thrown out of the game. Oh yeah, so that is good sportsmanship though huh? Andrew, don't listen to this moron (like you would anyways) put that SOB girly man on the Stiff List ASAP!

by Goldennugget on Mar 24, 2009 8:04 PM MDT reply actions

amundsen is a b!tch

i was gonna try to specify and talk about the randolph incident but unfortunately i dont have time

by Bektur on Mar 24, 2009 8:27 PM MDT reply actions

Anonymous, don't be such a fool. Watching the play again, Nene was practically walking and Amundson dropped like a sack of potatoes! This someone who probably is up on Shaq in training. What a bitch.

by andrew fisher on Mar 25, 2009 6:12 AM MDT reply actions

I'm just pissed we couldn't beat the Suns.

by Eric K on Mar 25, 2009 9:27 AM MDT reply actions

George Karl used to talk about the "Silent Warrior" mentality, where you don't let anything get under your skin (refs, dirty opponents) but you unleash absolute fury within the confines of sportsmanlike play. We've seen a lot more of this since the AI/Billups swap, but guys like Melo and Nene still have a ways to go. Hopefully Nene will learn from this incident and be better for it.

I agree that Amundsen now belongs on the Stiffs list, but at least credit him for admitting the flop.

MJKeenan

by Anonymous on Mar 25, 2009 9:41 AM MDT reply actions

Flopping is a THUG move too anonymous. Why don't you post a name to refer to, why does everyone put their damn names as anonymous? I hope Amundson gets tons of boos the next time he comes to Denver. I am sure he learned is flopping skills from Nash, one of the biggest floppers. I hope they start fining players who flop on purpose, as it is unsportsmanlike and actually is quite pussy like. Yep I said it, Amundson is a fucking pussy.

by CO_Nugs420 on Mar 25, 2009 10:37 AM MDT reply actions

I think All Anonymous Posters should stay at #3 on the Stiff List. They always come over to this blog and post trash with a self righteous tone about themselves, and don't have the balls to leave a proper handle. F you Anon, you thugged out thug of a thug thug.

Nene leaves his defenders feeling dirty. "I can't believe he did that to me...I...I'm so ashamed." Then they all go cry in the locker room.

Amundson is a douche. If you take his side, you're a douche bag.

The NBA needs to adopt a reviewable play in the last 2 minutes of a game clause. All those charges were phoney. I still agree with hastings that flops should be called as a foul. If you have to sell it with arms flailing falling backward, it should be an infraction at least.

After watching the first 2 rounds of the NCAA tourny, I wish the refs would just let the guys play ball without stopping the game everytime two guys brush against each other. These guys are huge and the court is only so big, there is bound to be contact. The league is filled with cry babies, and it's Stern's fault. He has groomed these athletes into thinking they can have what they want as long as they cry loud enough.

by joelsopinion on Mar 25, 2009 10:37 AM MDT reply actions

Admitting Nene was wrong to let Amundsen get under his skin and get ejected in an important and close game is not equal to taking Amundsen's side.

Furthermore, getting your panties in a bunch over an anonymous post from a 12 year old who can't put together complete sentences makes you look bad, not him/her.

Can we all settle down now and discuss this intelligently?

MJKeenan

by Anonymous on Mar 25, 2009 11:41 AM MDT reply actions

Funny, because I think that Amundson is a tough, fake guy. Especially with her ponytail.

Anyway, he wasn't playing basketball. He was antagonizing Nene for a bunch of trips up and down the floor. As I mentioned before, this is poor sportsmanship, and I'm looking at Gentry here, especially seeing as how Nene is a key player for us and Amundson is a scrub.

Anybody remember what Jeff Van Gundy's idea was about flopping? He used to talk about some rule he wanted to see implemented. I can't remember exactly what it was...

But I can't stand the flop. What about towards the end when Melo put a hand in someone's face (can't remember who), didn't touch him at all, and yet he acted like he got poked in the eye. Puh-leeze. It led to a foul call, because he caught the official's attention.

They should hand out Oscars at the end of the season. Ginobli and Nash would fight it out every year.

by Do We Have Any Plays? on Mar 25, 2009 12:04 PM MDT reply actions

Do We Have Any Plays & Joelsopinion - I agree with both of you that something needs to be done about this. I am pretty sure Van Gundy said something along the lines of the flopper getting a foul called on them instead of on the person who they faked the contact with. I personally agree with this because I grew up playing sports and I hated guys like this (Amundson) who weren't even in there to play but just to antagonize me, yet when we finally retaliate we are the ones who get called for it. That is the epitome of bad sportsmanship in my opinion. In soccer, for example I know that you can actually get a yellow card for flopping but it is rarely called, still at least it is there. In my opinion I would prefer a tech instead of just a normal foul, because that would insure people would think twice. But the best thing would just be for Stern to have a meeting with all the refs before the playoffs and just acknowledge this and tell them to make no calls. That is what the refs in college do and it seems to be working fine. At least this would work right now and then Stern could search for a long term decision over the summer.

by Goldennugget on Mar 25, 2009 12:30 PM MDT reply actions

Incidents like these just highlight the problems with officiating. The officials let the situation between Nene and Amundson get out of hand. Nene clearly felt that the officials weren't protecting him and figured they wouldn't protect Amundson either. Players consider it the job of officials to protect them. Players don't mind getting hit if they are going to the free throw line.
The problem is that if officials do a good job of protecting the players, people start complaining about too many calls and "let 'em play". Officials are reluctant to put star players on the bench with foul trouble or fouled out.
Good players adapt to the officiating. They can play without fouling, but they can't stop the opponent from fouling. Only the official can do that.
There should be a rule that states that any attempt by a player's action to influence an official's call is a technical foul. So if the official belives that a player flops, he gets a technical. If a player points a direction on an out of bounds play it is a technical foul. If a player raises his hand on a foul call in an attempt to get the foul called on him instead of a teammate (in foul trouble) it's a technical foul. If a player rolls his arms (travel signal) it is a technical foul. A rule like that would quickly add a level of maturity and professionalism to the NBA. Notice I don't include what a player says to an official. We generally can't hear what players say to officials so we can't tell when a player is trying to upstaqe or show up an official verbally. That technical should remain up to the officials discretion.

Thursty
(at least putting a tag to my anonymous post. I just have way too many logins to make another)

by Anonymous on Mar 25, 2009 1:06 PM MDT reply actions

I am pretty sure Van Gundy said something along the lines of the flopper getting a foul called on them instead of on the person who they faked the contact with.
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This sounds right. Thanks for posting it. I totally agree.

On another note, the other night there was a double technical called, and Hastings was saying that they should change this rule to have them each shoot a free throw. It would indeed make more sense this way, rather than assuming they would cancel each other out. I agree with this, too.

Good discussion.

by Do We Have Any Plays? on Mar 25, 2009 1:27 PM MDT reply actions

Put your name in the Name box of the Name/URL, then you don't have to post as anon.

by CO_Nugs420 on Mar 25, 2009 1:29 PM MDT reply actions

The idea that the more "star" the player is, the more often he gets to the foul line and the less the "star" gets called for fouls. As well as that Ref's hate to send starters to the bench has got to be the most stupid idea. What happened to the "it is what it is" instead of the who did it mentality which I have heard forever. A foul is a foul what, part of this does the league not understand? I would really hate to think the NBA finals are as rigged as you hear about. This is why basketball gets the shaft from sport's fans. To much control by the Refs

by Getting tired of it all on Mar 25, 2009 2:56 PM MDT reply actions

you people crack my ass up! Did you even watch the same game I did? I doubt it since I was there! Nene (who I happen to think is a good player) was all over Lou the entire game. Here in Phx we love Lou because he is aggressive defensive player, something that is a rarity here, and he love him because he makes things happen. He isn't a scrub and he is really creating a name for himself in the league. Nene was wrong, he was surprised, and he got served all night long, which led to the fustration we all saw. Simple as that. He was aggressive a few other trips down the court and he finally got caught. If you could hear the loud chants in the arena for him, I am sure they will be far more deafening than the boos he might recieve in Denver. LLLOOOOOUUUUU

az

by Anonymous on Mar 26, 2009 2:13 AM MDT reply actions

Thats great az that you care that much about your suns. It will be really relaxing for you during the playoffs to sit and watch all the other teams compete while your team is at home playing golf. You can have Lou, I will take Nene over him any day. And I will take the nuggets making the playoffs any day too over having a shitty team that barely misses the playoffs.

by Anonymous on Mar 26, 2009 10:47 AM MDT reply actions

Awww. Isn't that cute. We have great golf here this is true, just look out for us because we'll be playing through after your early exit from the playoffs. Fact is Suns fans love this team and have since '68. Lou plays team ball and plays to give the suns an advantage. You love a guy like that on your team and hate him when he's not because he gets in to the opponents head. Nene (baby in spanish) showed he was weak-minded and folded like a lawn chair when the pressure was on. How do you think he'll do when it matters in the post season? Keep your baby, we'll keep Lou. I'm off to play some golf, last I checked it was blizzard like conditions in Denver.

by Anonymous on Mar 26, 2009 2:47 PM MDT reply actions

take your golf and shove it up your ass while I ski the powder baby. While your playing golf in june sweating your ass off in 120 degrees I will be relaxing here in the nice 80's watching the nuggets in the playoffs.

by AZ_SUCKS_ASS_FUCK_LOU on Mar 27, 2009 9:24 AM MDT reply actions

I will take my colorado weather over AZ anyday, stay the fuck in AZ and tell all your friends to to do the same. Your not welcome here in CO.

by Anonymous on Mar 27, 2009 9:26 AM MDT reply actions

fuckhead from AZ ain't chattin no more. Maybe he took a good dose of STFU.

by Anonymous on Mar 28, 2009 7:17 PM MDT reply actions

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1. METTA WORLD PEACE

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2. CHARLOTTE BOBCATS

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3. OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER
The team that was supposedly built to overcome the lockout-shortened season managed to lose 7 of its last 14 games, ceding the Western Conference's 1-seed to the Spurs in the process. Their reward might be a first round matchup with defending champion Dallas.

4. BILLY HUNTER AND DEREK FISHER

With report after report coming out about NBPA union head Hunter's shady, nepotistic dealings and questions arising about Fisher's own role in dealing with NBA owners behind Hunter's back during the lockout, this off-the-court scandal could prove to be more exciting than the playoffs themselves!

5. STEVE NASH AND THE PHOENIX SUNS
The Suns are on this list for squandering the last few great seasons from Nash. Nash is on this list for his stupidly stubborn loyalty to a franchise as awful as the Suns.