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2008 NBA Playoffs: Nuggets/Lakers Game 1 Game Thread

Denver Nuggets at Los Angeles Lakers, Apr 20, 2008 1:00 PM MDT


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Now that you are back with us it is time to take one last look at this series and I will point out a few things that I have yet to mention anywhere else so far.

 

 - I have barely mentioned Kenyon Martin and he can play a huge role in this series.  As Brian from LA Sports Hub pointed out in his analysis of how to beat the Lakers, Lamar Odom has been great since the Gasol trade.  Kenyon is one of the few players in the league that can handle Odom defensively.  Brian also pointed out that the Lakers do not like being played physically.  Playing physical in the playoffs is something the Nuggets, especially Kenyon, do very well.  I thought another reason the Lakers would be a bad matchup for Denver was because there was no Tim Duncan for Kenyon to beat on.  If Kenyon gets a hold of Odom or Gasol in the paint, he may get a chance to play the physical post defense he enjoys so much.

 

 - Before the All-Star break Marcus Camby was averaging 14.3 boards and 3.9 blocks.  After the All-Star break those numbers have dropped to 11.1 and 3.2.  He did play a minute and a half less a game, but I do not think we can accredit the drop off to that.  I have mentioned several times that Camby has looked worn down.  Well, there is a good reason for that.  Marcus has played 390 more minutes this season than his previous career high which interestingly enough was set just last season.  Those 390 minutes average out to an extra 11 or 12 games of wear and tear.  He also set a new career high of 79 games played in 07-08.  At the age of 34 and with the build of a corn stalk there is no wonder he has looked sluggish.  Hopefully the abundance of off days in this series can help Marcus get his 14 and 4 mojo back.  Or find a 20 and 5 mojo.  That would be even better.

 

 - I have not written much about Carmelo Anthony.  Melo has performed better and better with each postseason appearance he has made.  (Well, he may not have been better against the Clippers in 2006 than he was against the Spurs in 2005, but the he was not any worse.)   Last year against the Spurs, he was tremendous as he shot 47.5% and averaged 25 points and over eight rebounds.  He even shot 9-13 on threes.  I expect Melo to have a very good series, but the Nuggets will need more than just a big series from Melo to win four before they lose four.

 

 - The same goes for Allen Iverson.  I expect him to play well, but the Nuggets will need at least two players out of the group of Kenyon Martin, Marcus Camby, J.R. Smith and Linas Kleiza to have big games every night for them to have a chance.

 

 - The Nuggets always seem to have a difficult time guarding some secondary player in the playoffs.  Everyone from Trenton Hassel to Michael Finley has burned them in big moments over the previous four postseasons.  The Lakers have several players who could fill that role this season.  Sasha Vujacic, Jordan Farmar, Ronny Turiaf and Derek Fisher are all good candidates to be that guy this season.

 

 - The Lakers have announced that the Nuggets will not have to worry about seeing Andrew Bynum as he will miss at least the first round of the playoffs.  From the Nuggets side I do not expect to see Nene play in this series either.  To my knowledge the Nuggets have not come out and said that and I believe the official word from George Karl is he hopes that Nene will be able to play.  I find it unlikely.

 

 - I do not see the benefit of making any changes to the starting lineup now.  Anthony Carter will be seriously overmatched by Kobe Bryant, but no other player on the roster aside from J.R. has a chance to even slow Kobe down (Kuba Diawara is too slow). 

 

 - Everyone likes to talk about how the Nuggets have two all world players in AI and Melo and that is true, but the Lakers top three players are better than they are given credit for.  Obviously Kobe may be the best player on the planet.  Gasol is a very skilled big man and his versatility is the key to his ability to fit in with the Lakers seamlessly after he arrived from Memphis.  Odom may be one of the most underrated players in the league.  He can score, rebound and pass as well as any small forward not named LeBron in the league.  Both he and Gasol are in the perfect situation with Kobe playing the role of Frank Drebin to their Detective Nordberg. 

 

 - Another thing I have yet to mention is the Lakers have a pretty big advantage between the men that will be wearing a suit and tie.  Phil Jackson may not be the best X and O coach around, but he can help talented players focus and play to their potential.  I do not believe we can say the same thing about George Karl.  With the matchup issues the Nuggets will face, I am not sure what Karl can do.  He will have to develop a good strategy of when to go zone, when to double Kobe and when to play straight up.  He is certainly capable of making the correct decision in those situations.  The question if he does will be will it make a difference in the outcome?

 

Finally, I want to apologize to the optimistic Nugget fans out there.  I try to be realistic and calculating about the Nuggets.  My purpose here is to study the situation and report what I see.  It seems most places I post something or talk about the upcoming series it comes across like I am preparing for a week long colonoscopy.  The Nuggets may very well be the best eighth seed in the history of the NBA playoffs.  They certainly can play with any team in the league.  Yes, I fully expect them to lose this series, but they certainly can pull off the upset.  My point is, I could be a cheerleader and say go Nuggets we can do it, but what good does that do us?  I certainly hope I am wrong and over the next two weeks, or however long this series may last, I am writing post after post about how the Nuggets are doing what I was unable to comprehend.  I just have seen far too much of this team to buy into their chances to win this series. 

 

I am picking the Lakers in six.  I believe five of those six games will be close in the fourth quarter and anything can happen in close playoff games.  I just cannot foresee a scenario where the Nuggets win four out of seven from this Laker squad.

 

As always, let’s have a good chat during the game.  My son is playing in an AAU tournament tomorrow so I may be in and out, but I will do my best to take part.

Poll
What will be the final outcome of the Nuggets/Lakers series?
Nuggets in 4
2 votes
Nuggets in 5 or 6
5 votes
Nuggets in 7
15 votes
Lakers in 7
3 votes
Lakers in 5 or 6
67 votes
Lakers in 4
27 votes

119 votes | Poll has closed

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Jeremy on the radio!

Well played sir! It must drive you crazy, trying to explain to people who are supposed to know something about the sport, that the Nuggets are actually a good defensive team, not a bad defensive team.

The Clippers! The (second) Best NBA Team in LA!

by Steve Perrin on Apr 20, 2008 10:48 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Here we go!

It’s do or die time for our Nuggets. No matter the opponent or circumstances a first round exit is not acceptable for this talented roster. If we don’t win this series, and yes I said win, changes must be made starting with the head coaching position. I don’t want to hear any more excuses from the Nuggets. It’s time to actually accomplish something, something no one thinks you can do. Should be a fun series but I have picked the Lakers in 5. Please prove me wrong Nuggets, please.

by RyanBuff on Apr 20, 2008 11:45 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Lakers in 5

But hopefully Nuggs in 6 or 7
I like the new look, even though it took me about 10 20 minutes to get it working.

by Kay on Apr 20, 2008 11:49 AM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm, I get

the pope’s mass at Yankee Stadium over the Nuggets game.

"Don't give up the ship!" - Capt. James Lawrence

by Russ on Apr 20, 2008 12:41 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait what?

What is happenning? They’re not showing the Nugs on the East Coast?

by RyanBuff on Apr 20, 2008 12:59 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just in the New York area, I believe.

All the local stations are doing it.

"Don't give up the ship!" - Capt. James Lawrence

by Russ on Apr 20, 2008 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Ok

Well that is too bad.

by RyanBuff on Apr 20, 2008 1:04 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bought a lot of alcohol for this series

I really hope I don’t have to drink any of it and save it for after finals and summertime.

by RyanBuff on Apr 20, 2008 12:59 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

So

I would appreciate a detailed chat about the game, since NYC has to give the Pope’s mass on every channel.

His Wolves, My Nuggs

by Kay on Apr 20, 2008 1:09 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Not looking good early....

The Lakers are displaying their incredibly effecient offense and brilliant passing, while the Nuggets are trying to go 1 on 1 every time down. Also, I think Camby has taken 3 or 4 jump shots already. K-mart has started out on Kobe and so far hasn’t done a bad job but it looks like Gasol and Odom will be thorns in our side all series long.

by RyanBuff on Apr 20, 2008 1:23 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good news is...

Melo has his jumper working early

by RyanBuff on Apr 20, 2008 1:25 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Bad news...

Jump shots are all we are getting.

by RyanBuff on Apr 20, 2008 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our D is absolutely awful

Seems like the Lakers are getting a layup or dunk every single time down.

by RyanBuff on Apr 20, 2008 1:33 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

What's with Iverson and missed FT's?

Geez. Those can come in handy late in the game.

by RyanBuff on Apr 20, 2008 1:36 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

OMG

Can AI please please make his free thows, like my man I dont uderstand whats wrong

His Wolves, My Nuggs

by Kay on Apr 20, 2008 1:40 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Van Gundy is really annoying me

We get it, we’re not the greatest defensive team in the NBA.

by RyanBuff on Apr 20, 2008 1:45 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Beat LA!

We got a game going here. I would like to see The Nugs garb a lead here.

Den 27, LAL 30

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 1:46 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Kleiza

Comes off the bench and knocks down a couple 3’s. The energy has picked up. Good signs.

by RyanBuff on Apr 20, 2008 1:50 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats what I'm talkin' 'bout

Nugs up by six!

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 1:54 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

JR dekes to the rim

and scores!!

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 1:58 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Great first half of ball

58 – 56, LAL

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 2:15 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

The start of the 2nd half

is more brutal then the start of the game for The Nuggs.

Lost Pau on the pick ‘n roll, for his easy score at the rim.

I want to see some Nugg scorin’, just like about this time in the first half.

Beat LA !!!

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 2:50 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Four fouls on K*be !!!!

Wooo Hooo!

Get another, go at ‘im Hard.

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 2:53 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Phil Jackson is STANDING!

LAL is a foulin’ machine right now.

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 2:57 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Another foul!

Four on Fisher!

AI, Gotta Hit Your Free Throws

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 2:58 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

13 pt. third quarter for the Nuggs so far

4:20 to go. Come On, Crank Up That Scorin’ Machine.

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:01 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

POW at the rim agin'

He is killin’ the Nuggs. How ya gonna stop ‘im?

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:03 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

22 pt 3rd for The Nuggs

37 for the L*kers!

I think the Nuggies need 44 in the 4th.

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:10 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Half 'n Half

Play Off Playah faces creeps me out.

Who was that one? Looked like Lebron & Lebron !!

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:12 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hard Foulin' Fourth, Baby !!!

This is Play Off BasketBall !!!!

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:16 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Lotta Game left

The Nuggies needs to turn ‘er around, like now!

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:27 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

hehe

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:29 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been talkin' to myself

until you came over.

Where have all The Nuggies gone

Gone to Flowsers everyone?

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:33 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also known as....

...The Most Prominent Game Day Poster on The Pickaxe ‘n Roll Blog-O-Spere !

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:31 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great Post by Jeremy

To open this thread. If’n ya haven’t read, it is worth a read IMHO

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:37 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Whappenin ???

Was he “T”,d up?

Saw the replay, dbl “T”’d

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:50 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, AI knew this one was Ovah

Just wanted to make a statement for the next game. Veteran use of Tech Fouls by AI

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:57 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

SHOW TIME

This is why a hates me L*kers !

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:52 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Get 'Em Next Game

I know ya Nuggies can do it.

The TiH stats have not failed me yet.

Stats Don’t Fail me Now !

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 3:54 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Um

Where are my orginal nuggsters??
Anywho, hold on while I go hang myself…....

His Wolves, My Nuggs

by Kay on Apr 20, 2008 4:06 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Kay

The Nuggies are set for the next Game.

Book It.

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 4:07 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea

I think I’ll wait untill series is over to rob my own life

His Wolves, My Nuggs

by Kay on Apr 20, 2008 4:12 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

Good Idea

Gives ya time to think about next year.

Possibly expanding your “Window of Opportunity”.

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Apr 20, 2008 4:16 PM MDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugly, ugly, fugly, nasty game

I think the Nuggs probably know what they need to work on for Wednesday night. Namely: limiting the number of times Gasol and Odom score from less than 2 feet.

rockies in october.

by LarryB303 on Apr 20, 2008 9:24 PM MDT reply actions   0 recs

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STIFF #1: DAN HAWKINS
After predicting 10 wins for his club before the season the Buffs find themselves just 2-6 with four games to play. To add injury to insult ... former 5-star prized recruit Darrell Scott announced he'll be transferring to UCLA after just 1 1/2 seasons at CU. Another black eye for the program and hopefully the final nail in Hawk's coaching coffin.  

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Each player was assessed a technical foul after refs had to separate the two in Boston's 97-87 win Nov. 1st. After the game the arguing and posturing continued. As Celtics' coach Doc Rivers pointed out, the 180 lb. fight rule should be invoked allowing the two to scrap because, "It's impossible for them to hurt each other." Maybe Paul should focus more on his teams' 1-3 start and not on the opposing teams' point guard's ability to, "respect me as a man."

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