[UPDATED] D'OH! Nuggets trade the 20th pick...

by Andrew Feinstein on Jun 25, 2008 4:29 PM MDT Comment 35 comments

ESPN just reported that the Nuggets traded the 20th pick in tomorrow's draft to the Bobcats for a future first round draft choice. I'm assuming they've done this for three reasons:

1) They don't want to add another guaranteed salary with the potential re-signing of J.R. Smith and/or Anthony Carter and/or Eduardo Najera to deal with this summer.
2) None of the players the Nuggets worked out impressed them enough to make a selection.
3) The Nuggets brass is lazy and their scouting apparatus isn't up to snuff (I've been told they may not even have international scouting).

I think this is a mistake. You're telling me that adding a D.J. White or a Mario Chalmers or a Marreese Speights isn't an upgrade over Yakhouba Diawara or Taurean Green?

I'm so glad I spent the time necessary to provide comprehensive draft coverage and make recommendations. Can I have those six hours back please?

[UPDATED] The Rocky Mountain News' Chris Tomasson explains the protections associated with the pick the Nuggets are getting back from Charlotte. Basically, the Nuggets wanted nothing to do with this pick, and thus traded it for cost and roster spot reasons.

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They probably did it to spite you. DJ White sucks anyway, but man would Chlamers have been cool and possibly CDR too had the trade with Memphis went down.

by Anonymous on Jun 25, 2008 5:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

man i said this probably was gona happen. they always do it. at least now they better sign JR and eddy

by andrew fisher on Jun 25, 2008 5:33 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I guess Denver nation better start rooting for some nice Gerald Wallace, Emeka Okafor or Jason Richardson injuries.

by Anonymous on Jun 25, 2008 5:34 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

At first I was like: what the f---? But given the front office's undeniable talent for screwing up at draft night, saving this one for the future might have been the best option after all...

by Geerten on Jun 25, 2008 5:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

People I think the shot for us is now going to the Raptor. Jemain O'neal would have been a good trade for Marcus Camby.
Fire George Karl, send Anthony Carter back to the NBADL, trade Marcus Camby, and make Marshmello sit out of the USA until he is focused on playing defense for the Nuggets and taking his game to a higher level.

by Anonymous on Jun 25, 2008 5:57 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Sounds like a screwy decision, but this is the least of the Nuggets problems. The 20th draft pick was not going to fix the need for a shooting point guard, preferably one who is not under 6' 1". Although I love Super Mario, he is an NBA role player at best.

by JTR on Jun 25, 2008 6:08 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

i think it was smart of them 2 trade the pick cause the bobcats are going to be in the lotery again so we get that pick then

by Anonymous on Jun 25, 2008 6:32 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

have you seen the protections on that future first? we dont get inside the 8th for at least 4 years. in that time a pf like speights or white would have either developed or be gone already Chalmers will be a good player and by this time he will be a starting pg in the league. I thought there were rules that didnt allow a team to trade their first round pick in two consecutive years? any ways this sucks.

by nickademus on Jun 25, 2008 6:35 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

The rule is that you can't go consecutive years without a pick, period.

The Suns traded their own 2008 and 2010 picks to the Sonics, and right now cannot trade their 2009 pick because that would leave them 2 years without a pick (2009 and 2010). However, if they were to receive a 2009 pick from someone else, they would be able to trade their own pick.

The point is that you can't be without a future pick 2 years in a row. It's a very odd and complicated rule.

That said, welcome to what it's like to be a Suns fan!

by MIchael on Jun 25, 2008 6:49 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

oh wow... big surprise... history repeating itself... anyone have the feeling that Kronke gave it one shot and now is in penny pinching mode?.... possibly playing the Bernie Bickerstaff card of having an immediate fire sale to make this franchise attractive to someone else to buy.... man, why can't we have an owner like Cuban who is willing to spend $$ to win?

by Anonymous on Jun 25, 2008 7:55 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

This is YOOOOUUUUURRRRR DenVEERRRR Nugggggeetts!!!

by Kieran on Jun 25, 2008 7:58 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh man! That was the first thing I thought of when I heard the Nuggets traded the pick, poor Andrew worked so hard on putting that draft preview together.

Well, I guess our team is soooo stacked we didn't need any help. [/sarcasm]

by Lord Sam on Jun 25, 2008 8:38 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Warkentien was right when talking about being the team not being able to find minutes for a rookie.

One of the whiners--take your pick from among KMart, Melo, Iverson or Atkins--will gripe from get-go if they see their time on the floor decrease.

Kroenke didn't have the cash and Karl saw a headache...

by Anonymous on Jun 25, 2008 8:46 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I hate the Nuggets at this point. maybe we can sign Kevin Brooks, add Joe Wolf and contend for the 12th spot in the Western Conference Old People Lague next year. What is the average age of our team?

by Justin on Jun 25, 2008 11:41 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Please renew firegeorgekarl.com. We need the national attention to help oust our front office. This is a darker time than our 11-71 season... at least we had hope for an improved future. Now we're forced to watch a parade of low character veterans shuffle through our ranks. Without developing talent from within the organization, fans feel disenchanted and betrayed. I think we should seriously consider at least forming a movement like those of European football-- a collective that puts together funds in a trust to purchase the Nuggets.

Yes, I know we'll never have that happen, but it is the only way to incite change in this franchise, a franchise that humiliates Denver

by legendarywalton on Jun 26, 2008 12:26 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

It's funny how the Nuggets are basically the basketball equivalent of the Raiders.

Everyone knows how much we hate the Raiders.

by Anonymous on Jun 26, 2008 9:01 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

At this point I am convinced that the Nuggets management is half retarted. Here we are with the most talanted roster in the NBA and we have a bunch of self centered ego maniacs running things. They don't even care about, or even think about the fans. And here we are all excited to get a pick in the draft for one year and they go off and screw us again. Somebody has to do something about this.

by Goldennugget on Jun 26, 2008 9:02 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Do A Blog On The Reason The Nuggets Need To Re-Sign J.R Smith

by Anonymous on Jun 26, 2008 9:08 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Hard to get minutes? At the 2, 3, and 4 spot yes. But point guard and center are 2 spots where we have no depth. Hibbert would have been a nice pick there giving us some actual strong side defensive presence. Granted, he is an offensive liability but so is Camby. Besides that, what are the odds that Camby/Nene/Martin go down this year. Judging from the past 4 or 5 seasons I would say the odds are very high.

by Paterade on Jun 26, 2008 9:21 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

These FO fools could have at least waited to make (Charlotte's) pick at #20 and then moved it.

At least we would be able to enjoy the draft, which all true fans are interested in.

BUT NO! Screw the fans! That's what the FO is all about.

by Dave on Jun 26, 2008 9:46 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

we should have traded the pick to the bulls for kirk hinrick and throw camby in there too or jus put ai at point and start simth i think smith can be come a kobe like player

by Anonymous on Jun 26, 2008 11:14 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Boooooo! Not necessarily at the fact that we're trading to get a most likely better pick in the future, but at the fact that I now have nothing to watch this evening.

I like trading our pick for a potentially better one but geesh! As a fan, the draft is a great part of what you want to see in the sport of basketball. Hope springs eternal... when you have a friggin draft pick or two !!!!!!!!!!

by Eric on Jun 26, 2008 11:40 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I doubt that a pick between 12-18 in the future will be any better than the pick we just gave up in a deep draft. the 20 in this draft would be like a top ten next year because that draft will be horrible. Honestly that is about as far as you can really project a draft but still this was a bad move.

by nickademus on Jun 26, 2008 11:57 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

The director of player communications is back on message boards saying not to fret and that something huge is in the works. I call BS but we'll see. I hope knows trading Camby is expected and not huge. AI needs to go too, and we need an All-Star in return.

by Anonymous on Jun 26, 2008 12:23 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Which message boards? Do you have a link?

by Anonymous on Jun 26, 2008 12:38 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

nugpuppy but that has restricted membership and he's also on http://nuggets.proboards1.com under estratt

by Anonymous on Jun 26, 2008 1:03 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I guess the front office people wanted to get some extra rest before the start of free agency next week. Or maybe they've already gone on vacation for the July 4th holiday. The least they could have done is got some foreign player and let him stay in Europe a few years.

by Mike on Jun 26, 2008 3:28 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

estratt is saying we traded a future first for Sonny Weems. Chad Ford said he wouldn't be drafted, Rex Chapman had him as the 16th best player in the entire pool. I f*cking hate this team.

by Anonymous on Jun 26, 2008 9:11 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Chalmers just went to Miami for two future seconds. If that's what went for Weems I'll be sick. This estratt fellow said the Nuggets weren't convinced Chalmers could lead a team. What the f--- ever. You shouldn't be expecting a 'team leader' at 20, just get a good player! Better than nothing.

by Anonymous on Jun 26, 2008 10:02 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I haven't seen the Sonny Weems deal anywhere. Is it legit?

by Paterade on Jun 26, 2008 10:44 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Now do you get it, IDIOTS? Now do you see why this team will never get anywhere? The management of the Enver Nuggets, is woeful at best! Yet, all we hear is "Melo this, & Melo that"! He has issues, granted! But until they get serious in the front office, this team will be what it's always been! A 2nd rate, Mickey-mouse operation, that shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath with other NBA franchises! If they were for real, we wouldn't have to deal with Karl! Yet, we all know what's coming! Sooner or later, he's gone! Leaving us fans wondering why it took this incompetent mngt. months to do, what we all knew should have been done earlier! Heaven help us all- the Nuggets TRULY $uckl!!

by Anonymous on Jun 26, 2008 11:38 PM MDT reply actions 0 recs

Is this Weems player good?

by Anonymous on Jun 27, 2008 1:25 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

I can't believe they let chalmers go. We could have parted with eddy, besides the fact that he is a fan favorite I chringe every time he touches the ball. The nugs better come up with a trade or a free agent that gets us a point guard. I don't think I could handle another season with anthony carter or chucky tkins

by Anonymous on Jun 27, 2008 9:48 AM MDT reply actions 0 recs

" Anonymous said...

The director of player communications is back on message boards saying not to fret and that something huge is in the works. I call BS but we'll see. I hope knows trading Camby is expected and not huge. AI needs to go too, and we need an All-Star in return. "

are you stupid? trade allen iverson away for an allstar??? while i'm at it, i might as well trade away my 78' chev convertible for a kia rio too huh!

stupid idiot. i'm glad you stayed anonymous. at least nobody will know that you're actually a dumbass

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