The Nuggets next trading partner...Detroit?...
In our offseason recap of the Marcus Camby situation, I suggested that the Detroit Pistons might be interested in the former Defensive Player of the Year should they flame out in the Eastern Conference Finals again. Well, the Pistons did in fact flame out and GM Joe Dumars has fired their coach and said personnel changes are coming this summer. Could the Nuggets be an able trading partner?On Friday, Travis Heath at HoopsWorld threw out an Allen Iverson/Marcus Camby-for-Chauncey Billups/Rasheed Wallace trade possibility. And today, the Denver Post's Mark Kiszla is reporting that the Pistons might be interested in Carmelo Anthony (which is kind of funny considering it was Tashaun Prince's presence on the roster that prompted Dumars to pass on Melo in favor of Darko Milicic in the 2003 draft).
Meanwhile, George Karl has resurfaced from hip surgery (you sure you don't want to take a whole year off to recover, George?) to laugh off the Melo-to-the-Nets rumors while maintaining that no Nuggets player is untradeable.
I like Detroit as a possible trading partner, but not for Melo. A Billups-Iverson swap could be interesting, but only on chemistry grounds. Both players are essentially the same age (Billups turns 32 this fall, Iverson turned 33 yesterday) and are hybrid points/assist guys with Billups being closer to a true point guard, obviously. Billups is less expensive (owed $36 million over the next three seasons) than Iverson (will make approximately $45 million over the next three seasons), and is a better three-point and free-throw shooter. But Iverson is a much better scorer and can impose his will on a game, something Billups doesn't do.
But again, on chemistry grounds, you have to at least think about it if you're the Nuggets. With Iverson deferring to Melo, he's not the A.I. that we traded for. Whereas Billups is accustomed to being "one of the guys" vs. "the guy", and as a three-point threat he could expand the floor for slashers like Melo, Kenyon Martin and J.R. Smith. And of course Billups is a Denver native.
I doubt Detroit would part with Billups for A.I. unless they could ship out the troublesome Rasheed Wallace, as well. Wallace would most certainly come at the price of Camby, and unfortunately a Wallace addition would make the Nuggets locker room even more of a disaster than it already is. But it's worth thinking about and I'm sure Denver Stiffs readers will come up with other Detroit trade scenarios for us.
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Anyways, as for possibly trading Marcus Camby for Rasheed Wallace isn't a great idea either. Everytime I watch the Pistons play, he seems to pick up a technical. He is a detrimental locker room type guy, so I really don't think he would mesh with the rest of the team.
On a final note, Carmelo Anthony better not be traded at all. Tayshaun Prince is a better defender than Melo is, and I doubt the Pistons would trade him considering they're known for their hard-nose defense.
by nataly on Jun 8, 2008 2:45 PM MDT reply actions
But I still don't like the trade. I'd take Chauncy, but not giving up AI alone, much less with Camby in there.
by Eric on Jun 8, 2008 9:59 PM MDT reply actions
by Eric on Jun 8, 2008 10:01 PM MDT reply actions
It is worth noting that Billups grew up in Denver, went to CU, and played for the Nuggets once before. I also really liked what he said about running a championship level team in Baron Davis' interview on ESPN.
Billups isn't a great shooter, but is a good PG. Wallace is very hit-and-miss, but when he is hit is very good. I also think he would fit in very well with Martin, Melo and Smith (if we resign him); though probably not in a good way.
We get two players who have won a championship recently, in exchange for two players of about equal age. If we resign Smith I think our shooting will be decent enough, and we get more defense in return.
I'm really just intrigued by the idea of having a smart PG on our team. We'd basically be getting Miller back, but with a bigger name. Then we'd replace Camby with someone who we don't laugh at when he drops back to the three.
I'm still not in favor of trading Melo at all.
by Shane on Jun 8, 2008 10:06 PM MDT reply actions
What about trading Nene for Artest and Melo for Bosh? I doubt Toronto would take that though.
BTW love this site.
by Julian from Australia on Jun 8, 2008 10:42 PM MDT reply actions
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by Anonymous on Jun 8, 2008 10:43 PM MDT reply actions
by Jonny Drama on Jun 8, 2008 10:52 PM MDT reply actions
I would trade Iverson for Billups in a heartbeat.
by Catalan on Jun 9, 2008 2:18 AM MDT reply actions
Then here comes Camby.If the Pistons sign him because of his fake "Defensive Player of the Year",they must be the biggest fool of all.Anyway,someone needs to be the next victim,'cause DN has played that role for so long.
by joanna on Jun 9, 2008 7:37 AM MDT reply actions
I like the Idea of getting Melo...but i don't think you'll ever see us get rid of Chauncey (unless the price is right - obviously). I also don't think we'd get rid of him for AI...AI and Rip could not coexist, their styles demand the ball a lot, and Chauncey still top 6-7 PGs in the league (when he wants to be) and needs to be here for a bit until Stuckey can develop a bit more...and i don't think that Melo will fit here...we preach tough D, and Melo's a bit of a problem in that area...you'd almost have to hide him like the Suns do with Nash...and i agree that Sheed needs to be a part of ANY trade that we make...he's starting to really wear out his welcome here (see again the WCF performance).
If we did trade for AI, can you imagine your team...nice starting 5...i'd be jealous...
billups
jr smith
melo
wallace
nene
Athleticism in JR and Melo with incredible shooting, defense with Sheed, experience, Billups a true point guard...WOW
If we do get Melo, this is what's gonna happen
1. It's going to cost the Pistons A Lot! More than Just Chauncey...picks and more players...
2. Melo's going to want the $$$...max maybe? Our owner is a cheap one...doesn't like to use the Luxury tax...why, i don't know...i exploit it, but that Bill Davidson...
3. No defense...see above...
4. Melo likes being "the man" and Detroit doesn't really do the superstar thing...I'd like to see it, but a lot of the team and marketing strategy is build on "going to work." Blue collar kinda town, blue collar team...i wonder how the team would deal with his attitude...we did deal with Sheed, but he fell into line because of 2 things...LB, and the chance to win his first title...we've seen the downfall of sheed over the past years...don't want that again...
by mike from d-town on Jun 9, 2008 8:24 AM MDT reply actions
by Zachm219 on Jun 9, 2008 9:52 AM MDT reply actions
What are you gonna do when Melo's jump shot is off? Remember the problem with everybody else's consistency? Wasn't the only consistent player on this team AI?
Good luck with that.
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