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5 Lessons the Nuggets should learn from this NBA Finals...

I know the Nuggets are painfully far removed from ever appearing in an NBA Finals. I know we have an incompetent, arrogant coach who refuses to get involved in the games and make adjustments. And I know we have a cast of talented-yet-selfish players who don't put the good of the team over their individual achievements.

But throw those assumptions aside for a moment and bear with me as I explain what the Nuggets should have learned from Boston's decisive NBA Finals victory.

Lesson #1: Coaching technicals matter.

As brother Steven pointed out while we were watching last night's telecast, the key moment of the whole game was Doc Rivers' technical foul at the 9:57 mark of the second quarter. Rivers was reacting to (what was rightly) a no-call when Eddie House was trying to get by Kobe Bryant, but he sensed that the crowd, and his team, needed a little boost from the bench. In the wake of the Celtics' blowout victory over the once-favored Lakers, people forget that the Celtics were only up 26-23 at that moment. And what transpired after Doc's technical? The Celtics outscored the Lakers 32-12 to finish out the half and never looked back.

Guess who finished second-to-last in the league with just one coaching technical in 2007-08? That's right, the Nuggets' George Karl. Karl needs to take a cue from Rivers (who got a few techs in the Finals if I'm not mistaken), and even Gene Hackman if he has to, and realize that working the refs matters. Even if your gripe is bogus as Rivers' was last night, it inspires your players and your crowd, and can swing a game in your favor.

Lesson #2: Take the ball to the @#$%& hole!

There have been a lot of Carmelo Anthony/Paul Pierce comparisons throughout the playoffs (to which Pierce replied: "I've never got a DUI"). The gist of the argument being that Pierce was similar in his early NBA days to what Melo is now - a supremely talented small forward with a suspect attitude and questionable work ethic who settled for too many outside shots while nevertheless carrying his team into the playoffs but not much else. Like Pierce, Melo is an oversized, powerful small forward who can't be stopped when he takes the ball to the basket. Pierce averaged almost 9 free throw attempts per game in the Finals, up 3 from his regular season average. Compare that to Kobe Bryant (a similar sized player, but not as strong certainly) who averaged just 7 such attempts per game, down 2 from his regular season average.

I know it sounds obvious and cliche, but when your primary scorer drives the ball to the basket it changes the entire dynamic of the game. In 2007-08, the Nuggets were 15-7 (a .681 winning percentage) when Melo had at least 10 free throw attempts. Had Melo done this all season, it's conceivable that the Nuggets would've won 56 games.

Lesson #3: The Lakers are soft and the West isn't as good as we think.

After watching the Lakers roll over like a bunch of European soccer floppers against the Celtics, I'm even more incensed that the Nuggets rolled over against them in Round 1. Yes, the Lakers were a far superior team to Denver, but lest we forget that they won only seven more regular season games than the Nuggets in 2007-08, and that's with the Nuggets mailing in half their games! As noted in the Denver Stiffs preview of the Nuggets/Lakers series, the Lakers had no interior defense and the Nuggets should have exploited this on every possession (as the Celtics did). To be fair, J.R. Smith and Linas Kleiza did exploit this, but everyone else - and that means you, Melo - forgot to do so.

In hindsight, it's completely absurd that George Karl and his Nuggets players were downright afraid of these Lakers. During his season-ending press conference, Karl acted like the Lakers were the alien attackers in the first 45 minutes the new War of the Worlds movie (which is completely unwatchable, but you get my point) and therefore the Nuggets couldn't possibly compete with them.

Moreover, the Western Conference just isn't as good as we all thought. After all, the Celtics only lost five regular season games to Western teams in 2007-08 (including one to the Nuggets!). There are just a lot of Western teams that are very competitive with each other. The Lakers, Hornets and Jazz will remain the cream of the crop, but the Spurs will be a year older and slower, the Suns and Mavericks will continue to pay for the stupid Shaquille O'Neal and Jason Kidd trades, and the Rockets won't put together another run like we saw last season. The Warriors will probably be the same and the Trailblazers will need to be reckoned with, but they aren't winning championships anytime soon.

Lesson #4: Defense Matters.

Another cliched, obvious statement, but until the Nuggets embrace a defensive mindset, they will remain a novelty team like the 2006-07 Golden State Warriors, the 2004 through 2007 Phoenix Suns and the Nuggets of 80's lore. Even I'm guilty of saying that the Nuggets should just run a Golden State-style system (with the assumption that the Nuggets are more talented) and win every game 125-115. But this just doesn't work. If the Celtics proved anything in this Finals, it's that even if you get off to an atrocious offensive start, you can win any game with a great defense.

Remember, Doc Rivers was hardly known for being a preeminent defensive coach (or player for that matter), but he put his ego aside and let assistant coach Tom Thibodeau reinvent the team's defense. With assistant coaches Doug Moe and Mike Dunlap vacating the Nuggets bench this summer, Karl and the Nuggets brass should be scouring the coaching ranks for the next Thibodeau.

Lesson #5: You can have more than one leader.

It's hard to imagine now, but back in October the basketball punditry world was asking questions about who among Boston's "Big Three" of Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen would be the true leader of the team. Instead, Allen immediately deferred to Pierce and Garnett while leading by example by keeping himself in impeccable condition and preventing his young teammates from drinking alcohol during the season. KG became the "soul" of the team by revamping their entire defensive identity with his tireless work ethic and unbridled energy. And Pierce was the leader on offense by setting an aggressive, take-it-to-the-basket tone when necessary throughout the regular and post-season.

So perhaps the Nuggets should stop worrying about who the leader of the team should be - is it Melo? A.I.? Even Camby perhaps? - and instead each player should do what he does best and try to bring out that trait in his teammates. I see Carmelo Anthony taking on the Pierce role, Marcus Camby the KG role defensively (sans the vocal energy, which Camby certainly doesn't have and never will) and Allen Iverson the Allen role. (Of course, rather than discourage teammates from drinking, rumor has it that A.I. hosts bottle service at clubs and invites all his teammates to join in...yeeesh).


So there you have it. All the Nuggets have to do is get a few more technicals out of George Karl, hire a top-notch defensive wiz at assistant coach, coax Carmelo Anthony into being a more aggressive offensive player rather than settle for jump shots, get Melo, A.I. and Camby to accept broader roles as the leaders of the team and the 2009 NBA Championship will be ours.

And to quote KG: "ANYTHING IS POSSSSSIIIIBLLLLE!!!!"

Have I drank enough of the Nuggets Kool-Aid for you yet?

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Celtics fan from Boston here but I have been reading this site for a few months because I enjoy it (I actually came here from a link at the heylarryhughesdonttakebadshots.com site)

Two players I always wanted to get a championship were KG and AI because they poured their heart and soul into the cities they played for but they didn't get surrounded with the proper talent like other championship teams have. KG won his ring with Boston now, so I really hope that AI can get his too. Iverson is a warrior and plays as if he is 25, he should realistically have IMO another 2 years of prime play, then a small decline but still at a high level.

Of course, if AI gets traded, then well, I can't help you there.

But assuming AI stays on the team, good luck to you guys next year, hopefully I won't have to read too much bad stuff on this site.

by Jonny Drama on Jun 18, 2008 2:11 PM MDT reply actions  

Well done.

All professional level athletes have "talent", but attitude and character are the intangibles that make or break any human enterprise.

I have wondered at the slow, lazy, indifferent play of the Nuggets at times, and concluded that it's probably the inevitable result of dissolute lifestyles i.e.severe party time "fever".

by Anonymous on Jun 18, 2008 3:46 PM MDT reply actions  

Soccer floppers... LOL. I was just watching that Euro crap on my lunch yesterday kinda like you watch NASCAR... looking for the wreck... or in the case of soccer, the pansy fall-down-and-grab-your-shin crybaby move that makes casual observers laugh at the sport of soccer and recall why it'll never legitimately compete with real man sports like football and basketball.

Anyway, pretty good assessment there Andy.

Now can we please start to dissect the draft?

I'm calling for either DJ White or DeAndre Jordan with our lowly pick.

by Eric on Jun 18, 2008 4:16 PM MDT reply actions  

Easier said than done, eh?

All of that sounds good, but if none of it happens, then what?

by nataly on Jun 18, 2008 4:57 PM MDT reply actions  

As a fan of basketball in general, I would have rather seen Iverson get traded to the Twolves (when KG was still there) and played with KG, then go to the Nuggets. At least he would have been playing next to a player with as much heart as he has. I think Iverson would have been better off playing next to veteren players like Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and KG..players that knows what its like to go years of carring a team on their back and at some points getting seemingly nowhere and understand what it takes, the sacrifices that have to be made to get to that final destination.

If Iverson was going to play with younger players, I would have rather seen him play next to D-Wade in the backcourt or Lebron James, those guys are young but they are mature enough to play next to other Superstars and also don't mind making the proper sacrifices to win, they work hard every game. What i'm getting at here is what this article is saying sounds good, but I honastly think that Carmelo is not mature enough to make sacrifices to his game (nor do I see him as any type of leader at this point) and it seems as if some Nuggets fans seem to only want Iverson, a guy that has had more of a load then probably any other player of the past ten years to carry, change his entire game (a game he has been playing for god knows how long) to fit in with this team. Its not fair to aquire players and ask them to change their ENTIRE game..if a player has to do that then that team should have never traded for that specific player in the first place. KG, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen ALL had to make sacrfices to their indivigual game for the sake of their TEAM, but none of them had to completely change their game. They all also wanted the same goals, they weren't worried about All-Star games or scoring titles or partying and whatever else. They had their eye on the prize and they went and got it.

That Nuggets team has a lot of soul searching to do this off season. They need to decide what they want and the proper ways they need to go out and get it. Iverson needs to decide what more he needs to do in order to better himself and that team (he has made the most sacrifices out of everyone so far), he also needs to be the more vocal leader he was in Philly and stop worring about stepping on anyones toes. Carmelo needs to see what more he needs to do to help better himself and the team and make the proper sacrfices in order to do so, he also needs to decide if he wants to be a great player or if he is satisfied with just being an All-Star. I really hope the Nuggets can work things out, but I would rather see a player like Iverson finish his career on a team contending then on a team that doesn't seem to know if they are ready to win or not, its very frustrating to watch.

by Anonymous on Jun 18, 2008 5:17 PM MDT reply actions  

you left out the most important thing:

excellence is something you build throughout the season, not something you flip on and off like a light switch. The nuggets played all season as if they could just turn it on when they needed too. And then when they needed to, they didn't have that next level.

The celts played that way all season, and look what happens.

by Age on Jun 18, 2008 7:22 PM MDT reply actions  

I see why you would say the west is not as good as you think. Unfortunately we had a Lakers team that never showed up to play and its hardly indicative of how (good/bad) the west is. IF Boston had to play the Lakers playoff schedule - Denver, Utah and San Antonio. The Celtics would have never made it to the finals. The Lakers we saw in the finals were not interested in winning it all. Every player on the Celtics made a tremendous effort to win and it showed. Boston was due for a championship. The due has been paid. The Nuggets need more than five lessons lets hope they make an effort like the Celtics. That kind of heart, guts, and determination is something each player (you too Karl!) has to have.

by Anonymous on Jun 18, 2008 9:34 PM MDT reply actions  

I think it's obvious we lack leadership. Remember the suns game late in the season when Nene came back. I don't think i've ever seen the nuggets play as well as they did that first half, but then they put it on cruise control, blew something like a 20 pt lead and we lost. I really think that AI was our only starter last year who actually truly cared about one thing: a ring. The rest i think just want to look good. Also, my sister works at Oceanaire, a fancy denver restaraunt, and she's told me how the nuggets will be there till late in the evening on eves of games drinking. just atrocious, you get paid millions to play a game and you act like its just another day at some crap job. oh yeah and apparently camby doesn't tip.

by Zachm219 on Jun 19, 2008 11:31 AM MDT reply actions  

The Nuggets can and MUST do the same as the Celtics did. They have the right piece: Melo. Melo is like Pierce. Then they must get rid of the garbage --it's you, Allen Iverson--, like Boston did with Antoine Walker despite being a playoff team.

To his credit, Ainge stole Al Jefferson in the draft (15th pick). Without this steal, there's no way Boston gets Kevin Garnett and thus, the NBA title.

So we are probably a draft steal and a year of sucking (another high pick) away of getting a championship team.

It's just a matter of playing the cards wisely.

by catalan on Jun 20, 2008 7:04 AM MDT reply actions  

This doesn't have anythign to do with the post but i caught this in the footnote of an article about AI not opting out (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jun/19/i-appears-unlikely-opt-out-contract/)
Apparently the nuggets want to deal LK for KL (Kyle Lowry) of memphis, a 6'0 pg who avgs a career 3.6 ast and shoots a career 26% from three. Is it just me or does this trade make no sense what so ever. God i hate our front office

by Zachm219 on Jun 20, 2008 2:42 PM MDT reply actions  

That was a good article by someone who actually seems to know a bit about sports. I, and probably Andrew, would take a team full of unathletic players with heart and disciplin over a team of alchoholic athletics anyday. This is why this draft is important. If the Nuggets had any sense whatsoever they would draft a guy like Stephon Curry, not for the years to come but to make a statement.

by GoldenNugget on Jun 20, 2008 3:45 PM MDT reply actions  

JEFF VAN GUNDY

by Anonymous on Jun 20, 2008 10:08 PM MDT reply actions  

Congratulations to catalan for the DUMBEST POST WE'VE EVER READ.

I felt dumber just reading it.

Thanks for nothin.

by Anonymous on Jun 21, 2008 1:52 AM MDT reply actions  

AI isnt opting out and I wouldn't either! Get that money baby!

by ThaAnswer on Jun 21, 2008 8:46 AM MDT reply actions  

- From anonymous: "Congratulations to catalan for the DUMBEST POST WE'VE EVER READ."

Great, I guess you are an AI fan.

Not sure why you find it so dumb. If we play our cards wisely, we can become a contender building around Melo. If you don't see it, then you are definitely dumber than dumber.

by catalan on Jun 21, 2008 8:46 AM MDT reply actions  

To catalan:
You know half of the people on this blog became Nuggets fans after Allen Iverson came to Denver. You call him trash, when everyone on this blog knows that Carmelo and JR Smith combined will never achieve what Allen Iverson has in his career. I do believe that the problem with the Nuggets is the coaching and pointing to other players is stupid and silly. Just like the Celtics, the coach has to utilize his players strength on offense and demand that they play defense. This was evident in the Finals.

by Anonymous on Jun 21, 2008 11:00 AM MDT reply actions  

As someone who lives in Boston and is a Denver Nuggets fan, I don't think a lot of you will ever get it. The Nuggets problem is that you the fans over there don't demand excellence. In the beginning of this site, everyone was demanding for the firing of George Karl. Once ownership decided to keep GK, everyone started suggesting trades, ranting on the bad characters they have etc. What ever happened to firegeorgekarl.com. The fact of the matter is you Denver fans have the power to influence management to do something about the situation, but none of you are focused or desire that trophy.

by Anonymous on Jun 21, 2008 11:09 AM MDT reply actions  

^^anonymous from Boston hit the nail right on the head. I read a lot of Nuggets websites, and frankly i'm embarrassed by them. Half of the fans on there flip flop back and forth so much, the other half sound as if they don't know a damn thing about b-ball. About 40% talk about AI like he is some scrub off the streets and not a future H.O.F basketball player, I just don't think some Nuggets fans deserve to have two stars on their team. I think they are satisfied with mediocrity. It shows how in how a lot of them praise Carmelo for basically doing nothing yet in his career and being 3-20 in the playoffs, yet they are satisfied in that. Its ridiculous at this point and i'm tired of reading the garbage, they wouldn't know what it would take to win a championship if it slapped them in the face, I feel sorry for players like Allen Iverson and Marcus Camby that are stuck on that team going seemingly nowhere. When Iverson leaves they will probably still blame him for that teams failures.

The only credible sites that I read are this one and the Nugg doctor, because at least they are unbias and get strait to the point.

by Anonymous on Jun 21, 2008 11:21 PM MDT reply actions  

Ok so the last two posters need to do me a favor and shut the hell up. The fans can make a championship team, please, go tell that to cubs fans, or how about Utah fans who love basketball more than everything except polygamy, golden state has a similar amazing fan base as well, guess how many championships those teams have won, a whopping two (GS in 56 and 75). I think both of these posts abve mine need to go down in the top ten reasons why we hate celtics fans, you people out there have decent professional teams for the first time in two decades and now you think you're gods gift to sports. Oh and what happened to firegeorgejarl.com, legal issues, maybe if you actually took time to read the site you would know that. Yeah fans have a major influence because they demand excellence. I mean look at new york, those fans demand nothing but the best and look at the knicks they are championship caliber with loads of rings.....oh wait. I love how the poster above me tells about how all nuggets sites are crap and then writes about how he likes reading this one cause its credible. So to the poster right above mine, you're a Dbag, you may not think we deserve to stars but you don't deserve to even breath, please for pro-creation, jump off a bridge to eliminate your stupidity from the gene pool. God i'm so pissed now i can't even see straight. And PS how about having some balls and not posting as some anonymous jerk.

by Zachm219 on Jun 22, 2008 2:04 AM MDT reply actions  

""Soccer floppers... LOL. I was just watching that Euro crap on my lunch yesterday kinda like you watch NASCAR... looking for the wreck... or in the case of soccer, the pansy fall-down-and-grab-your-shin crybaby move that makes casual observers laugh at the sport of soccer and recall why it'll never legitimately compete with real man sports like football and basketball.

Anyway, pretty good assessment there Andy.

Now can we please start to dissect the draft?

I'm calling for either DJ White or DeAndre Jordan with our lowly pick.""



Funny how americans consider football (what you are calling "soccer" in your private club of the USA). Everywhere i read something on soccer on US blogs/forums the words "flop" or "poor man's sport" are always near.

That's pretty funny because for your information soccer is by far the most popular, whatched and played sport in the world. That makes a lot of floppers and morons if you see what i mean.

Americans have such a big ego they often don't see the reality of things and act like morons toward the rest of the world. You suck on a sport so i must mean its a sport for poofters that only foreigners can love. Ahah what a joke you are.

by Iverson Warrior on Jun 22, 2008 5:18 AM MDT reply actions  

From anonymous: "It shows how in how a lot of the Nuggets fans praise Carmelo for basically doing nothing yet in his career and being 3-20 in the playoffs, yet they are satisfied in that."

Joe Dumars is doing the impossible to try to get Melo and build his new team around him. I guess you consider Dumars a bad GM in spite of the fact that he built a championship team from the nothing.

Do me a favor and get a clue.

by catalan on Jun 22, 2008 5:38 AM MDT reply actions  

Another garbage article by Armstrong in the post today saying the same old crap. Here is the formula for articles in both papers.

1. Nuggets need to listen to Karl
2. Melo is a terrible defender
3. AI needs to take leadership role

I think I've read the same thing in different words like 20 times. Not once a mention of awful pick and roll defense by Camby and Iverson. How about breaking down the Nuggets offensive system. How about justifying why Anthony Carter was a starter. How about examining Linas Kleiza and why he can't be a consistent threat. How about trading for Steven Hunter and not playing him.

by Paterade on Jun 22, 2008 11:14 AM MDT reply actions  

hey "Iverson Warrior"... Soccer is gay. Period. Minor league baseball, the WNBA, and pro Bowling draw bigger crowds here in America. You and the leagues of people in Europe who don't have the benefit of the NFL will never be able to understand how bad you're fooling yourselves. It's not about being pompus, it's about the fact that little sissies run around on a "pitch" for 90 minutes so that they can tie 0-0 and cry about their shins a couple times a piece.

There isn't a worse sport to be called the most popular in the world (and yes, I realize it has the numbers to make that claim) than soccer.

PS, soccer is popular in many parts of the world because it's incredibly cheap to play. You can make a kickball out of a roll of duct tape wrapped around an old T0Shirt in Somalia if you wanted and play it barefooted. It's actually sort of the antithisis of why hockey isn't popular here. Hockey is so friggin expensive that most will resort to other sports. Soccer is so cheap you can play it anywhere.

Soccer sucks dude. And when faggy "superstars" of the sport roll around for 5 minutes like they'll need their leg amputated and then jump up all the sudden and finish a match, it makes for a complete joke... a mockery of sport I say.

by Eric on Jun 22, 2008 3:45 PM MDT reply actions  

"Iverson Warrior" I forgot to commend you on your understanding of the world. I agree, there are lots of morons in this world. No question about that one!

But honestly, after making my last post, I felt bad for slamming on you and your sport. This site is about the Nuggets, and I'll try not to sway into foreign territory... is that a pun?

LOL, Fire Karl, Keep Melo and AI, and get "our KG". We have the Ray Allen (AI) and the Pierce (MarshMelo), we now need the KG.

by Eric on Jun 22, 2008 3:50 PM MDT reply actions  

whoever thinks the solutions to this team's problems have anything to do with the name 'george karl' is an idiot...

he IS the problem... it's not the defense that's the problem. it's the schemes. sure melo isn't playing D, but what the f*ck is george karl doing about it? sucking on his lollies...?

FIRE GEORGE KARL -
GET AN ACTUAL COACH TO COACH MELO
RE-SIGN JR SMITH
TRY AND GET EDDY NAJERA BACK TOO !

by andrew fisher on Jun 22, 2008 5:12 PM MDT reply actions  

hey catalan guess what. I'm the one who said your post made me dumb. guess what, the other posts against you are not from me. so obviously if I think it was dumb, and others do then maybe... hmm.. but what do I know, my IQ dropped from reading your post.

bottom-line: Like the Celtics Fans are saying, just because GK is staying it doesn't mean you need to start pointing fingers at others on the team.

the fact that you are calling the most efficient player with the biggest heart on the team garbage shows that you are the type who wants to blame somebody, it doesn't matter who. maybe whoever is out-performing your favorite? that doesn't matter though. what matters is that GK lost badly with NBA Stars in the olympics, enough said.

Like Andrew Said: change needs to start at the TOP: I'm 100% sure that if you put somebody like maybe Jeff Van Gundy who now preaches defense and who knows how to manage talent they can get more than 50 wins and get further in the playoffs.

A Team is a System, the System is only as good as it's weakest component, AI is one of the strongest components (3rd in Scoring, 4th in Steals & 9th Assists in the NBA, NOT Garbage) in the System therefore he is not the problem.

Period.

Jeff Van Gundy you know you want to coach this team!

Realistic Opinion: Nuggets Fans cannot expect much unless Coaching changes or some Miracle happens and the Nuggets Players themselves as a whole decide to play Defense.

Conclusion: Iverson is not Garbage, Do NOT Trade AI, Melo, JR, Fire George Karl OR Put in a GENIUS ASSISTANT COACH and SECRETLY TAKE OVER THE TEAM. ;)

by Anonymous on Jun 22, 2008 5:38 PM MDT reply actions  

zachm219

Do yourself a favor and shut the hell up. I read a lot of fan boards and the Nuggets fans are by far some of the most wish washy, bandwagon fans i've ever seen. They don't appreciate great athletes and don't deserve to have players like Iverson (or any other great NBA star) on their teams, period. Some of the fans spend the majority of their time worring about who is better "Iverson or Melo", or "who's team it is" or picking apart Iversons game, rather then worring about the team in general. I watch the Nuggets games on t.v and the crowd at times seems dead as a door knob. That is the definition of "garbage fans". It seems as if some of the fans are fine with praising a player like Carmelo for doing nothing (which is probably why he thinks its okay to coast through games)instead of demanding excellence from him. If he was playing in a large basketball market like New York, LA, Philly or Boston, those fans would have eaten Melo alive for the lack of effort he puts in at times. Then you have the nerve to turn around and throw a guy like Iverson (a player that is going to the Hall of fame) under the bus? A guy that basically helped carry that Nuggets team the entire season? Seriously, get a life. Thats what i'm talking about when I say some of you fans don't have a clue about basketball.


@Catalan

How do you know what Joe Dumars is willing to trade for Carmelo? All you are going by are reports, no one knows what Joe Dumars is trying to do, he hasn't said anything. A lot of anylists do not think it is the best idea and have also come to the conclusion that Melo is a good basketball player but not that guy you build around, with some work he is fine to have on your team but what has Carmelo done to even prove that he is a real "franchise player" (I bet you can't even answer that question)? He has yet to even have a breakout playoff performance and he is about to be in his sixth year! Give me a break. Some of you clueless fans are the only ones that are still hanging on to the dream that Carmelo will one day wake up and become Lebron James..and thats why I call you CLUELESS. I wish Carmelo the best and hope he can get himself together, for not only him but the sake of his team and so-called franchise.

by Anonymous on Jun 23, 2008 4:29 PM MDT reply actions  

the last couple of anonymous posts are GREAT.

Start supporting your team and quit placing the blame on the players, especially the one that wants to win the most and works the hardest, AI.

If you still want to place blame, start at the top ok.

Denver Nuggets 2009 - led by AI, JR & Melo.

by NoYPi on Jun 23, 2008 4:53 PM MDT reply actions  

Lol at anonymous. I couldn't have said it any better to define the mass of Denver fans.

by Iverson Warrior on Jun 26, 2008 11:35 AM MDT reply actions  

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304196_2551840719324_1353064703_32974236_1387484886_n_small Nate Timmons

Dsc00033_small Andrew Feinstein

Writer

Me_oh_my_oh_small Jeffrey Morton