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Why DenverStiffs.com? An open letter to my readers...

My family and I have purchased season tickets and attended Nuggets games since the team was in the ABA. A season ticket holder is essentially a taxpayer – you contribute to the million dollar salaries of your team’s managers, coaches and players. And as a taxpayer, you have every right to demand an earnest effort both on the basketball floor, inside the locker room and within the front office. Moreover, we should never forget the credo that all fans must abide by: if we care more about the outcome of the game than the coach or the players, they no longer deserve our support and instead, deserve our harshest criticism.

I launched FireGeorgeKarl.com back in February because I feared that the coach (and by proxy, the players) of the team I love didn’t care as much about the regular season as we, the fans, did. And worse – with a few exceptions – not only was no one in the Denver media calling head coach George Karl out for the team’s underachieving performance, but they were routinely taking up for him. Meanwhile, every Nuggets fan I spoke to was furious with Karl, and who was speaking up for them?

So something had to be done.

By starting this blog, my hope was that by putting some much needed, and frankly overdue, public heat on Karl that he would guide the Nuggets out of the cellar of the Western Conference Playoffs for once and deliver one measly first-round series victory. And that if he didn’t, I hoped the Nuggets would make a change at head coach. Much to my disappointment, neither of these wishes came to fruition and Karl will be back on the bench next season.

But since starting this blog, I quickly learned that the Nuggets organization has a myriad of problems that go well beyond George Karl. And for me – or anyone – to make one guy the scapegoat for five straight years of playoff futility, not only does a disservice to him but lets others responsible for this ineptitude off the hook.

For example, General Manager Mark Warkentien was the co-architect of the Portland Jailblazers team that almost ruined basketball as we know in the city of Portland. And Bret Bearup, owner Stanley Kroenke’s confidant and team adviser, previously operated outside the purview of the NCAA as a financial adviser to athletes. While I appreciate Mr. Kroenke's willingness to open his wallet to put a winning team on the floor, I don’t want us turning into Warkentien’s Jailblazers or worse, the New York Knicks of the Western Conference.

And, of course, there are the players. In spite of the assortment of (very) public incidents – criminal or otherwise – that these current Nuggets have been a part of, I can’t help but root for them. But the reality is that in addition to not being coached properly, these players don’t fit well together and, in some cases, have worn out their welcome in Denver.

I always intended this website to be much more than a "fire the coach" blog and grow into a general Nuggets forum that speaks the brutally honest truth on behalf of Nuggets fans everywhere. Therefore, while continuing to advocate for a coaching change, I will be advocating for other changes within the organization and to the roster, as well – and that’s why this blog will now be known as DenverStiffs.com (for the uninitiated, that’s an homage to former head coach Doug Moe who called all his players "stiffs" – that means you, Blair Rasmussen!). To keep tabs on those who disappoint us in Nuggets Nation, I have produced a "STIFF LIST" to be a regular feature at the top right corner of the homepage.

I hope that all of you will continue to follow this blog regularly, especially given that many of you have been asking me to turn this into a general Nuggets blog from Day One. And in case you’re curious, FireGeorgeKarl.com will remain live and point here.

Before I sign off tonight, I want to thank a few people for making this blog an amazing experience thus far. First off – I want to thank my most active readers: chillz, markp, danjustin, joanna (all the way from China!), Kieran, Nataly, geerten (from Holland!), blue, Petey, Lucas, Andrew (from Australia!), j2y2k3, Iverson Warrior, Lord Sam, Murl, kenoshakid, Nadum, ohxten, DeAngelo Starnes, shonuff101 and even my nemesis, Shaun. You guys have been amazing not just with your loyalty to the blog, but with your thoughtful, detailed comments and analysis. Keep it up!

Secondly, I want to thank Chris Tomasson of the Rocky Mountain News, who has treated me as a colleague (and not some internet hack) from our first conversation onward, and had the guts to bring up this site to George Karl in person. I also want to thank the Denver Post’s Mark Kiszla and Woody Paige for being responsive and supportive, and Benjamin Hochman for giving this blog some mention, too.

I want to give a quick shout out to ESPN.com’s Bill Simmons and Henry Abbott (of True Hoop fame), and Brett Edwards of AOL Fanhouse and Jorge Sierra of HoopsHype.com for mentioning this blog on several occasions. And of course, many thanks to the "dean of sports bloggers," Will Leitch at Deadspin, for having my back when Coach Karl’s "lawyer" threatened to sue me.

Thirdly, I want to thank the folks who have interviewed me, 850 KOA’s Dave Logan and Lois Melkonian, Dino Costa and Fox News 11’s Eric Goodman for hearing me out when the blog first launched. I also want to thank 104.3 The Fan’s Mike Evans and Sandy Clough whom – even though we got off to a rocky start together – have since agreed to disagree in a cordial manner and I know they only want what’s best for the Nuggets and their fans at the end of the day.

And most importantly, I want to thank Bret Adams, Esq., Coach Karl’s "lawyer" from Columbus, Ohio. If it wasn’t for Mr. Adam’s obnoxious, inappropriate and unprofessional threat of a lawsuit against me, this blog would have never received the notoriety and popularity that it has. Bret, I couldn’t have gotten this far without you.

So let’s get the Nuggets a Larry O’Brien trophy already!

Sincerely,

Andrew

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Andrew -

Love the new look and the new name. Will you please write about AI now???!!!!!!!!!!

-Dave in Denver

by Anonymous on May 2, 2008 8:38 PM MDT reply actions  

fuck yea!! can't wait to see what's coming andrew!!!!

by Anonymous on May 2, 2008 9:05 PM MDT reply actions  

don't like it. shoulda stayed with fgk.

by Anonymous on May 2, 2008 9:18 PM MDT reply actions  

This blog has been great- What kind of traffic have you been getting. I hope it gets more each day. I have been here everyday since it started. It's nice to have a person speaking out for the fans. Keep up the good work.

by Not anonymous? on May 2, 2008 11:01 PM MDT reply actions  

I still say, fuck George Karl.

by Anonymous on May 2, 2008 11:29 PM MDT reply actions  

FGK dies that easily, huh? I've agreed with 93.2% of the thoughts/ideas/posts on this site since its inception, but a change to "Denver Stiffs" stinks and I'm disappointed you fold on a flush hand. Conceptually, FGK should maintain such as firejoemorgan.com and not fade away even though the literal sense has been trumped by E. Stanley's vote of confidence in the coach. Continuing an unabashed critique of all things Nuggets under the previous moniker would be the way to go. That being said, I appreciate this blog under any name as a Nuggets fan and moreso as a Denver sports fan. Keep seeking that accountability!

by JBE on May 2, 2008 11:52 PM MDT reply actions  

i can see how fgk.com would be pretty limiting after a while. i'll keep reading the blog here as long as you give melo and wark the treatment you gave gk!!!!

by bubba on May 3, 2008 12:00 AM MDT reply actions  

You gotta take Rocky out of the picture. He is the one of the only non-stiff Nuggies of recent memory. It's sad that the Non-Stiff list is much shorter. Here is my list of players who actually stepped up when it mattered as a Nugget.

1. Juwan Howard. Dude gave it his all every night on one of the worst teams ever.

2. Dikembe Mutombo. Man does not fly in the house of Mutombo.

3. Robert Pack. Explosive. Last guard to actually make a difference in Denver.

4. Carmelo Anthony (2006-2007 only). If given the ball more would have destroyed the Spurs despite getting no calls.

5. Michael Adams. Worth the price of admission.

Sad to say that is all I got.

by Paterade on May 3, 2008 12:24 AM MDT reply actions  

I think you should have stuck with it for a little while.

Just when you (yes you and this blog) have put a little fire on GK's seat, you put out the fire.

For example, if the Nuggets open the 2008-09 season 0-4 or 0-6 then you continuously call for his firing, I think his seat will be like a grill.

But whatever it is I'm going to come to this site and post here. I like it. :) Still should have kept firegeorgekarl.com until GK is actually fired though.

- Snake -

by Anonymous on May 3, 2008 1:14 AM MDT reply actions  

Wont be reading anymore now that the name has been changed, I only hate Karl, none of the players.

by Anonymous on May 3, 2008 2:02 AM MDT reply actions  

ANdrew,

Glad to see the blog is still alive. How about a post on all time STIFFS???

-Bill

by bill on May 3, 2008 2:06 AM MDT reply actions  

do what you gotta do drew - i got your back. can you please write about the melo trades????

by Anonymous on May 3, 2008 2:16 AM MDT reply actions  

I thought u would not change the name until GK got fired.But anyway,yes,he is not the only problem that leads to 3-16 over the 4 consecutive years of playoff series!So keep going,Andrew.'cause to tell u the truth,this is the only English website that I visit so often.

p.s. Dino really rocks!!I just finished the 3 parts show downloaded from ur earlier post.I've never seen a media personnel speaking and critizing in such a direct and bitter way.Or perhaps it's because of culture difference.

p.p.s. Thanks for mentioning me in ur post:).I believe more or less this website has some impact on the development of the team.

by joanna on May 3, 2008 4:07 AM MDT reply actions  

Andrew,
FGK is the best thing going but whatever site you want to change it to fits well by me. Your site has been an outlet for me especially during the games to blow out the steam. Of course the entertainment value ranks way up there. Thanks for your complete dedication to your site and us rabid fans. Thanks for the nod.

by markp on May 3, 2008 5:41 AM MDT reply actions  

It doesn't seem to have occurred to anyone here that Melo getting a DUI and then having a bad playoff series are related things -- obviously.

Back to the DUI, Melo's "mistake" is a clear sign that he was not coping with something. What was it? I don't exactly know, but I would put my money on this:

Trying to be a superstar on a screwed up "team" going nowhere.

No amount of leadership, or stellar play, or anything else Melo could do was going to change the outcome, and Melo knows this. So he got drunk and, unfortunately, drove his car. Having done that myself in the past, I can sympathize. This sanctimonious BS from a lot of people here or at NT makes me crazy. Melo is 23 years old and has been placed in a situation, unlike Lebron or DWade, that is impossible to deal with.

And now, it's guaranteed to continue next year. I'll bet Melo secretly wants out of this Nuggets travesty. Trade Melo -- not to help the Nuggets, who are now beyond help -- but to give Melo a chance to shine somewhere where he's has got a real coach and a reasonable chance of success.

by Dave on May 3, 2008 6:30 AM MDT reply actions  

I really understand where you're going with changing the blog title. It's frustrating to an infuriating level that we would have the season that we just had, and apparantly no moves are going to take place this summer. We have to hope that Warkentein is offered the rumored position with the Knicks so that just maybe the new regime will oust George Karl. If they don't do it this summer, then realistically the next season is probably a wasted one as well, as a coaching (and philosophy) change mid-season will never have a chance to work by the playoffs. The front office needs to be held accountable, as well. Denver Stiffs, indeed.

by Chris on May 3, 2008 8:16 AM MDT reply actions  

I was not so sure what does "stiff" mean.. (you know, I don't speak English, :P) until I saw the word "DUI"

ha ha ha ~~~~~~

by Muse Favor on May 3, 2008 8:23 AM MDT reply actions  

Haha good one. DenverStiffs.com. I like it. I would have kept FGK.com for a tad bit longer though. I still kind of have hope that GK may be fired . Just a little bit.

Was that 'other Andrew' you were referring to me? Haha if it is then thanks for the mention! And i think i deserve more credit being from Australia! Which is much further away from Denver than China is :P

by andrew fisher on May 3, 2008 8:29 AM MDT reply actions  

muse, in my line of work a stiff means a deadbeat.

by markp on May 3, 2008 9:10 AM MDT reply actions  

Actually I still don't quite get that "stiff",I just can not find an exact Chinese word...

by joanna on May 3, 2008 9:42 AM MDT reply actions  

good work pal; love the banner. i'll keep reading no matter what you're calling this effort...

by J Silver on May 3, 2008 9:51 AM MDT reply actions  

Nice job Andrew, like the all-encompassing change to Denver Stiffs.

Does anyone here think we kinda "won" now that George Karl has proclaimed he is going to be more of a disciplinarian next season? I may not be sold on the Denver Nuggets as a product, but I like that small baby-step in the right direction. Maybe I’m being overly optimistic. 60 wins in 2009!!

Just kidding.

by Lord Sam on May 3, 2008 11:17 AM MDT reply actions  

How many lives does George Karl have? One day after watching the 50-win Denver Nuggets put up arguably the worst defensive effort I have ever seen in a playoff game, I couldn’t believe the news that George Karl would be back again next year as the coach. Even after being swept by the Lakers in the first round, all but one being double digit losses. He has coached his teams to first round exits five years in a row now and hasn’t won a playoff series in seven years. I was sure that this years performance by the Nuggets was enough to get him fired but apparently not. The Corner

by Players Voice on May 3, 2008 11:46 AM MDT reply actions  

Andrew, this is a great idea. I'll still post / keep in check with this blog.

And, you weren't the only one who wanted to blame George Karl for the entire mess, a lot of us did as well.

by Nataly on May 3, 2008 11:50 AM MDT reply actions  

George Karl's not a good coach, but the decision to keep him shows that the problems with the Nuggets run deeper.

Mediocrity and a lack of professionalism are considered acceptable behavior here. Kobe Bryant gets up at 6 in the morning in the summer to work out. He's got workaholic tendencies, whereas Melo appears to have alcoholic tendencies. Nene must have gained 40 pounds in the offseason last year.

Karl says next year he's going to ask the players to make a commitment to coming to practice on time more often. More often? What? What kind of job can you make $10-20 million a year for coming to work on time irregularly? With that attitude, they're doomed from the start.

Utah, Portland, and Seattle/OKC Supersonics/Carpetbaggers are run by smart GMs who do good work. They are younger than the Nuggets are they are on the upswing. Soon the Nuggets will return to their rightful place in the cellar of the Northwest Division. Maybe then Stan will finally have the sense to fire George Karl.

by Kieran on May 3, 2008 11:57 AM MDT reply actions  

An appropriate name for this bunch o' stiffs.

Unfortunately, the fans are also gettin' stiffed by having to pay for that lame product the No-guts inist on putting on the floor. The team's architects lack vision, the players lack commitment and the rest of the wreteches lack common sense if we continue to buy tix. Fire us all!

by Anonymous on May 3, 2008 3:41 PM MDT reply actions  

Andrew, come on man. Why did you change the name? I understand this is anorganizational problem but that name was so provocative and drew so many people to your site. You could still have continued your tirade on the whole organization but remember your primary target is George Karl. I will always support this site but the name suggests just another blog out there instead of one that drew peoples attention to it. The new name is terrible. In fact it is quite "stiff" (intended). Firegeorgekarl was just so perfect and risqua. At least change it to something that will grab peoples attention. But like I already said you rock and I am here with you all the way through all this turmoil.

by GoldenNugget on May 3, 2008 6:20 PM MDT reply actions  

I'm sure that with the many posts here over the past few months not one has ever been posted about Chris Paul. He always has about the most annoying look on his mug, he is a flopper and he needs to be put in his snotnosed place. The dork is a poor actor as well.

by markp on May 3, 2008 10:20 PM MDT reply actions  

Who let out all the innmates in yellow to the Hornets and Spurs game. What no home team fans ?

by markp on May 3, 2008 10:24 PM MDT reply actions  

^I'd trade two Carmelo Anthonys for one Chris Paul. Actually, make it ten Carmelos.

by Anonymous on May 3, 2008 11:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Gotta love rocky, that lion is the only reason I would go to a game next year. Glad I can help. Oh my God I can read the word verification YESSSSSSSS.

by shonuff101 on May 4, 2008 8:15 AM MDT reply actions  

Gotta love rocky, that lion is the only reason I would go to a game next year. Glad I can help. Oh my God I can read the word verification YESSSSSSSS.

by shonuff101 on May 4, 2008 8:16 AM MDT reply actions  

Hey Andrew, it's impossible to BROWSE BACK in your site -I mean going back to the previous page once you have gone to one.

It's really ANNOYING. How about fixing it? Thanks.

by Anonymous on May 4, 2008 11:53 AM MDT reply actions  

You are right about Chris Paul. 10 Mellows for one. Yeah, I'm in.
And to the other post about browsing, click at the top,and your back to the home page

by markp on May 4, 2008 5:31 PM MDT reply actions  

You can browse back, you just have to click the refresh button and it will come back up I think

by shonuff101 on May 4, 2008 5:46 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks for the shout out Drew!

by chillz on May 5, 2008 8:47 AM MDT reply actions  

I think I would have gone with www.nuckthefuggets.com!! Not a big fan of the new name and banner, but if the content stays the same, I'll keep coming back.

by Anonymous on May 5, 2008 12:01 PM MDT reply actions  

You can count 1 more hardcore Nuggets fan to your readership. I'm looking forward to reading and supporting this site.

-Andrew P.

by parce on May 5, 2008 3:22 PM MDT reply actions  

I took the weekend off and this evening I was surprised by the changes made. I like the adjustment in general although I have to agree on those comments stating that firegeorgekarl.com is more catchy and more provocative. Both are ingredients of successful and popular current-day blogs.

But like most people here I will support this site forever. Oh, and thanks for the shoutout Andrew, much appreciated! And two thumbs up for putting Chris Andersen in the banner!

by Geerten on May 5, 2008 4:29 PM MDT reply actions  

Hey Andrew,did u notice the Rocky Mountain News' Chris Tomasson make comments on ur new site name?
He said "Whatever the name, it's an interesting, professionally done Website and one worth perusing by Nuggets fans."
Nice commentary:)

by joanna on May 5, 2008 11:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Hey Andrew, thanks for the shoutout! Like the idea of calling out anyone in the Nuggets organization who are bringing them down. However, I will continue to be reluctant to blame players who don't have defined roles. You can count on my continued support and participation.

by Murl on May 7, 2008 11:52 PM MDT reply actions  

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