We're going to see a lot of these Carmelo Anthony and Marcus Camby to the Nets trade rumors over the upcoming summer. The Nets will come up for two reasons: 1) former Nuggets GM Kiki Vandeweghe is now working under Nets President Rod Thorn (which is kind of funny considering it was Thorn who duped Vandeweghe into giving the Nets three number-one picks for Kenyon Martin). And 2) the Nets likely want to make a big deal and have a marquee player on their squad before moving to Brooklyn in two years.
The question Nuggets fans must ask themselves is whether or not the Nets (or any team) can offer the Nuggets the Herschel Walker-type deal I keep referring to. Would Marcus Williams, Richard Jefferson, Nenad Krstic, Sean Williams and their lottery pick this summer be enough for Melo and Camby combined? Would New Jersey even give up that much for Melo and Camby? It's definitely something to think about.
Thursday, May 15, 2008
Here come the Carmelo/Camby trade rumors...
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That is the most moronic trade rumor I've ever heard. There is no way the Nugs make this deal.
Trade your best player and keep the coach that is really to blame... sounds like the Nuggets!
If this happens I will glady trade my support.
I think you ought to add a new name to coach the Nuggets in your poll - Charles Barkley! Seriously, the guy is a big critic of the Nuggets, but hey, he's RIGHT! Can you imagine him coaching this team? What a kick that would be, and I'll bet he wouldn't settle for this lackadaisicle BS. Do you think he would want to coach? He's got to have some fire in him to get back to the game. I think we ought to make the suggestion, give it some momentum! Make it a headliner! :D
If we get Russell Westbrook out of that pick, I'm all for it.
Have the Nets draft him first and pull the trigger on the same night, have Stern announce it.
A SG that can handle the ball like a PG and score like Dwyane Wade and defend like he was Scottie Pippen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FP0ua5xFw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJUkr1xDiJs
Do you really think this trade is something to think about, Andrew?
Either you have no clue or you have lost your mind.
Send Carmelo packing thats fine. When the Nuggets don't make the playoffs and fall to third in the Northwest behind the Blazers and Jazz. We can all read blogs about how they shouldn't have traded him.
Andrew you might want to think about buying this domain name.
www.shouldnthavetradedmelo.com
Well, the trade is half good... The half that sends Marcus Camby out of here ASAP.
But just say no to trading Carmelo. Well I shouldn't say that. I mean, if it's a huge, can't miss deal, then I guess do it. But under no circumstances would I just trade him for nothing.
this trade idea suddenly made me realize who it is that Melo reminds me of as a player - Vince Carter.
if we're just playing with hypotheticals, what about Melo to the Warriors for Baron Davis? I think he could do well playing with AI, Kleiza, K-mart and Camby. Golden State (assuming Nelson is still there) would suit Melo.
The Nets have to do better if they want to get this duo of Melo and Camby. Melo has a lot of improvement years ahead of him, whule Camby should stay one of the league's top defenders for three or four more years.
Jefferson isn't at the top of his game anymore, while we don't see Marcus Williams being that great point guard anytime soon. First round picks? That seems fine. They should throw Shawne Williams into the deal too. That would be fine if I were the Nuggets GM.
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I don't buy the comparisons of Melo to Carter. Carter's collapse is a recent thing and I still think Melo has a lot to offer to a team. As far as this stupid rumor goes, there's nothing the Nets could really offer Denver to make this trade work. Its just not going to happen.
Next season I think we just hope that AI moves to PG to give JR a starting role at SG and hope that Karl can get off his ass and motivate the team to play defense. People forget how much better Melo was offensively in the last half of the year.
A lot of us want action, but I'm willing to sit and wait a year, take Karl at his word (which may be a bad decision) and hope that a lot of the West falls back a bit after this banner year. I just don't see a whole lot of options. Lets just hope that we don't lose JR to a big offer we can't match as the owner of this blog stated earlier.
There's really no value for the Nuggets in trading Carmelo Anthony and Marcus Camby to the Nets. The trade wouldn't really improve the Nuggets, so in a way it's pointless.
I agree with nataly, the point of the trade is to make your team BETTER.
At this point the only trade that makes sense in return for Melo AND Camby would be the likes of McGrady AND Ming or Kobe AND Gasol or BRoy AND Oden, OR 3 Players in exchange for them that would IMPROVE the TEAM.
Antything other than that would be idiotic. Like what the Grizzlies did by giving up Gasol for nothing. The Nuggets need to get a deal like that. ;)
Get Devin Harris in it and I'm taking it. I'm ready for some guys that can be coached.
Melo and Camby to the Nets makes no sense because the Nuggets would get nowhere near equal value.
A trade that does work is Melo and Camby to Washington for Jameson and Arenas. Melo needs to leave Denver, he has done too much damage inside the locker room, and is too one dimensional. Camby is a solid leader and plays with passion and poise, but is only a defensive presence. Washington would gain value for Jameson, who wants out, and they would also gain value for Arenas because he will opt out if Jameson does not return. I could then see Washington trading Melo to NJ for Jefferson or and a draft pick, which would allow room for a Melo and Lebron pairing in NJ at the end of next season. This is almost a dream scenario for all parties involved because they will be filling needs without having to go through a huge rebuilding process.
Melo and Camby to the Nets makes no sense because the Nuggets would get nowhere near equal value.
A trade that does work is Melo, Atkins and Camby to Washington for Jameson and Arenas. Melo needs to leave Denver, he has done too much damage inside the locker room, and is too one dimensional. Camby is a solid leader and plays with passion and poise, but is only a defensive presence. Washington would gain value for Jameson, who wants out, and they would also gain value for Arenas because he will opt out if Jameson does not return. This would give the Nuggets an outside shooter that they desperately need, and would fill out their roster with more consistent scorers. The Nuggets could then pursue a mid level Center in free agency, and would be wise to try and trade up to get an impact Center in the draft.
I could then see Washington trading Melo and Stephenson to NJ for Jefferson, Carter and a draft pick, which would allow room for a Melo and Lebron pairing in NJ at the end of next season. This is almost a dream scenario for all parties involved because they will be filling needs without having to go through a huge rebuilding process.
"At this point the only trade that makes sense in return for Melo AND Camby would be the likes of McGrady AND Ming or Kobe AND Gasol or BRoy AND Oden, OR 3 Players in exchange for them that would IMPROVE the TEAM."
most retarded statement ever.
Neither the rox, lakers or the blazers would do that...seriously man
Gasol is better than Camby and Kobe> Melo.. Plus they are gonna win a ship with that combo. And Melo in LA, that is a terrible situation for him considering all the trouble he gets into in DENVER
Yao is amazing and Tmac still has alot left in his tank. Rox would never trade Yao anyways, i like him better than Melo
If the blazers traded Oden and Roy all of Portland would set on fire. Roy is a young star himself and Oden has the potential to be the best center since Shaq. Seriously bro
dude, you didn't get what the guys said. that is exactly the point, no trade makes sense right now, unless it's unbelievably good like the gasol trade the lakers got.
get it? good.
understand it before you call it retarded idiot.
yeah i don't think miketrainnc understood, maybe english is not his first language?
like the poll says, what the people want on this sight are to fire George Karl and NOT TRADE ANYONE. noypi was merely making a point that no trade makes sense right now unless it's an unbelievably good one.
so, miketrainnc, do you have anything positive to bring to the discussion other than misunderstanding other posts and tagging them as retarded?
no speaky engurish miketrainnc? ;) seriously bro?...
sean williams. devin harris. richard jefferson. and picks
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melo and camby and chucky atkins...
but eh we'll wait til the offseason pans itself out.
i know melo will play good somewhere else if we trade him. but i doubt hel step up if we keep him
The only reason the Nuggets would even consider this offer would be because they are in rebuilding mode. Unlike most Denver fans the Nuggets must think that George Karl is not the problem but the team chemistry is. Where there's smoke there is fire and I see The Nuggets trading Melo and Camby for Jefferson, Marcus Williams(will be a very good PG soon IMO), Keith Van Horn's contract, their lottery pick, and Sean Williams(future Camby). Thats a lot to give up for a clubhouse cancer and a 33 year old shot blocker
i think the nugs should trade kleiza for a shooter like cuttino mobley or even raja bell. the melo/camby trade is ridiculous unless you include devin harris. he would play great next to iverson cause he's a taller point guard with a lot of speed. last season wasn't melo's fault but i noticed he lacks heart and doesn't take the game as serious as lebron does. i like the comment about jamison and arenas for melo and camby. that would make the nugs a contender. iverson+arenas+jamison+k-mart+a healthy nene is a fierce squad. they should fire karl and hire jeff van gundy to teach the team defense. scoring is obviously not a problem now.
I agree with the anonymous guy who posted on 5/16. Karl is the root of the nuggets problems. Carmelo is an amazing player, one of the best talents in the league. And he still has a lot of potential.
The nuggets have great personnel. They don't really need to trade anyone to compete. What they need is a coach who can teach all 12 players how to play TEAM DEFENSE. The nuggets should've fired karl after the lakers sweep and hired in my opinion rick carlisle or avery johnson, a good defensive coach.
I watch 82 nuggets games a season, and never get tired of watching melo. He shows up to every game and plays to win. He's an offensive force, and his rebounding improves every game. If the nuggets trade him ill move to brooklyn and start watching the nets. Its ridiculous to think that jefferson, marcus williams, and whatever first round pick could match the value of carmelo and camby. Carmelo was a first round pick! He led his team to a national championship as a FRESHMAN. The guy knows how to win. He's driven to win. The nugs just need a top notch coach to lead em to the top.
Having said all that, i was secretly hoping the nuggets wouldve jumped on the trade at the deadline that wouldve sent kleiza and draft picks to sacramento for artest. That wouldve been fun to watch, the second coming of the jailblazers, the most thug team of all time.
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