Sunday, April 20, 2008

"Why was this game different from all other games?"...

In Jewish households worldwide last night, Passover was celebrated in the form of a ritual feast known as a Seder. As part of the Seder, the youngest member of the family traditionally asks: “Why is this night different from all other nights?”

After the Nuggets lost their first playoff game to the Los Angeles Lakers today, Nuggets fans worldwide should be asking: “Why was this game different from all other games?”

Unfortunately for us, it wasn’t.

The usual Nuggets script against good “teams” (i.e. NBA ball clubs that actually play hard on both ends of the floor, run a cohesive offensive set, share the ball, are well-coached, don’t make mental errors, don’t rush shots, have good camaraderie and so on) on the road played out yet again. We’ve all seen this movie before. On the defensive end, the Nuggets gave up too many easy baskets and too many points overall. On the offensive end, the offense was stagnant as all-too-often players just watched Carmelo Anthony force bad turnaround, fadeaway jump shots over two opponents, or watched Allen Iverson dribble too long while no one bothered to set picks or make any cuts to the basket. And, of course, J.R. Smith didn’t get nearly enough minutes, even though he – and Linas Kleiza – were completely unguardable when driving the ball to the basket.

In other words, your typical Denver Nuggets road game against a good "team," ladies and gentleman.

As far as I'm concerned, Smith should start and play all 48 minutes. Period. Coach Karl needs to end this "J.R. is coming along slowly and we're building up trust in him" charade that's been going on for two seasons now. It's not like he doesn't have the energy!

That being said, the Nuggets did a couple of things really well that gave us a glimmer of hope in the games to come. As already mentioned, when they had Kleiza, Smith and Eduardo Najera on the floor together (the Nuggets were +5 with Smith and +18 with Najera on the floor, respectively), the Lakers were completely befuddled. With those three bench players leading the way, the Nuggets quickly moved from a stagnant offense to a run-and-gun, drive-the-ball-to-the-basket offense - a tactic strongly advocated for on this blog. Even A.I. and Melo picked up on this, and when they (finally) started driving the ball to the basket themselves, the Nuggets began to eat into the Lakers lead. It was all too little, too late, but at least the Nuggets players showed us - and hopefully themselves - that good things happen when they drive to the basket as opposed to settling for jump shots which they can't make anyway.

I also liked the defense on Bryant throughout the game. I know he ended up with 32 points, but both Kenyon Martin and Smith baited him into bad shots (evident in his 9-26 shooting night), and with the exception of a couple easy buckets, all of Bryant’s field goal makes were from the outside.

And let's not forget, the Nuggets inexplicably and uncharacteristically missed 14 free throws. Iverson himself accounted for six missed free throws. Let's hope the Memphis Tigers impersonation was just a one-game fluke.

But from a macro perspective, Nuggets fans everywhere must be very concerned. Iverson and Anthony each had 30 points, Bryant had one of his worst games in recent memory (in addition to the poor shooting, he only had 1 assist and 1 steal - that’s not happening again), and yet the Lakers still waxed the Nuggets – mostly in the second half. By trying to help his teammates after their matador defense failed them, Marcus Camby was routinely leaving Pau Gasol wide open, and Gasol abused the Nuggets from the inside today. Memo to the Nuggets: Kobe, Lamar and Luke aren't passing to Kwame Brown anymore! Pau can actually catch the ball and make the basket! No, really, he can!!

Like all of you, I hope the Nuggets make the necessary adjustments ASAP, or Gasol will go down in history as one of the great Nuggets’ playoff killers in recent memory alongside Sam Cassell and Manu Ginobli.

ONE MORE THING: Whenever Carmelo stepped to the free throw line at Staples Center, the fans chanted "D-U-I, D-U-I". Ha, ha, very clever, Lakers fans. Well I hope we Nuggets fans greet Lakers' star Kobe Bryant with a similar chant about his past infractions with the law when he arrives at Pepsi Center on Saturday. How about "SETTLE-MENT, SETTLE-MENT"? I'm open to any ideas you've got.

90 comments:

Anonymous said...

I was thinking,

"Hide your daughters"

clap, clap..clap, clap, clap..

"Hide your daughters"

clap, clap..clap, clap, clap..

jp said...

Inside the minds of some of the Nuggets on the offensive end...

Camby: "If AI gets me the ball when I am wide open in the paint, going up strong is too easy for a player of my caliber. I will show off the double-clutch reverse lay up instead. Also, if I am lucky enough to actually get a board without boxing anyone out, I will show off my amazing dribbling and go coast to coast!"

Melo (if only one person is guarding him): “I will start off my holding the ball for a few seconds just to make sure everyone else has stopped running so they can all watch me. Then I will jab step a couple times and shoot the patented contested jump shot”

Melo (if they send a doubt team): “Finally! Shooting contested jumpers was getting boring. I will now proceed to immediately put my head down and drive, even though I know refs do not really like me and I am 3 times more likely to pick up an offensive foul rather than getting a favorable call. Also, I will make sure not to pass to that white foreign guy standing wide open in the corner, since his 9-13 shooting is pretty lucky. I am Melo baby!

Carter: “Please don’t pass me the ball, please don’t pass me the ball”

Thanks for the blog, Andrew. Anything to add? If Carter starts next game, it is a travesty. Also, no mention that Karl was responsible for ending all the momentum we had in the 2nd quarter by putting Carter and Camby back in at a bad time. Finally, Camby just cannot be effective against quicker or more physical teams. He was atrocious and it wasn’t just because he was trying to help others out.

firegeorgekarl@gmail.com said...

Anonymous - "Hide your daughters!" is brilliant! Way better than what I came up with.

JP - Great comment. I couldn't agree more with everything you just said.

-Andrew

danjustin said...

"NO MEANS NO!" Yea its simple but it makes it easier for the entire crown to chant.

I though Camby was the single reason we lost. I stated that for us to win the series, Camby needs to man up Gasol. Well Gasol dominated that matchup and the lakers dominated us. BTW Camby was -30. I wonder if any hawk players are going to be that bad.

Maybe we should play bigger players such as Bjones or Diawara, because obviously Carter doesnt give us anything on either end of the floor in this series.

Anonymous said...

Well, one good thing about the game is that it was a different outcome than the last two years. Maybe it's an omen!

I hope so.

j2y2k3 said...

I watched the game and I have my analysis on all seven players that played a significant role in our loss today.
Iverson- Kobe did do a good job guarding him today, but AI took some terrible shots but it would have been better if he had gotten more of his teammates open shots. On defense, you were descent, I still think you can do better.
Melo- I was disgusted by him today. Some might not like this, but Carmelo played the worst basketball I've seen in a long time. He kept on trying to force the issue when Kleiza was open for 3, he took so many rushed shots, and constantly try to get to the basket with no conscience. Smith and Kleiza were also most effective when Melo was on the bench. I like Melo, but his selfishness was really bad.
Camby- I like the blocks, hate the on ball defense. I seriously think you need to hit the gym and gain some muscle because you were completely overpowered by Gasol and Odom on both sides of the court. You can do better than that, you are the Defensive Player of the Year.
K.Martin- The job you did on Kobe was excellent. You could have used some help but the Nuggets are very bad on help defense. Offensively, the coach needs to run you in more pick and rolls with AI or Carter so you can get easier shots to the basket.
Carter- You were insignificant. Unfortunately, this is not your fault, there is no reason why as small as you are you should be guarding the best player in the league. Offensively, you aren't an offensive-minded player and you were out matched, so the coach should've kept you on the bench.
Kleiza- I like your effort and thought you were the most consistent player on both sides of the court. I liked your shot selection and thought you should have played more unfortunately you and Melo being in the lineup left us with too many post mis-matches.
Smith- The offensive player of the game. Smith is a very good player, but I still see his immaturity especially when guarding Kobe. But you were impressive and hope the coach plays you more.

Sea Note said...

Check out the Lenovo stats on the Nuggets during the regular season.

You'll notice that the starting lineup which also of course overwhelmingly gets the most minutes, is 7th on the list of effective combinations.

The Lenovo stat list alone is indictment enough of Karl and co., any well coached team will have the best combo of players getting the most minutes, and the Nuggets are WAY WAY off.

Watching this team all season, I just know there are some major stat anomalies and it was nice to finally find one which so clearly points to bad coaching.

That LK and JR and Najera don't get more playing time is a travesty.

Start Smith, bench AC and we have a chance in game 2.

Also, we need to trade Camby this year, his time is up. What a crappy effort from him.

j2y2k3 said...

George Karl needs to see what the Sixers just did to the pistons. Because we are not gonna be able to beat the Lakers without D.

Nuggetslady said...

I really like the chant "No means NO". But, I am sure the Lakers fans will cry fould and call all of us a bunch of thugs for chanting at their Kobe! SDo let's chat as loud as we can!

chillz said...

Well well well... I guess I look like a fool... And here I gave Karl some props thinking he'd come thru at LEAST in the playoffs.. Boy was I wrong!

There were 2 players that played horrible. Carmelo Anthony and Marcus Camby. But their play reflected the horrible coaching decisions of George Karl... I'll break it down...

1st Quarter, GK starts AI and Carter in the back court. ALso, he proceeds to have AI defend the 6'10 Radmonovich!? WHo incidently is a great 3 point shooter... GK should have been fired that minute... But he didn't... Next the reason he put ai on Rad was to play Kmart on Kobe... One good call deserves a horrible one... Playing KMart on Kobe basically left Odom Guarded... slightly by Melo. Which in turn made the nuggets Paint presence NON-EXISTENT!!!

GK puts AI, JR, Kleiza, Najera and Kmart on the floor and basically go up by 8 point after being down by 10... In the middle of this good run GK just HAD to insert Melo and Carter, and then Camby.. we went down by 7....From here on out the game was lost.

Now did anyone notice what Jeff Van-Gundy was saying? he stayed taking shots at GK's coaching by saying. "I know its hard to have to take a good proforming squad off the floor to insert your star player/starters" "Since Melo came back in they went from 8 points up to 7 down" Not on point but thats about what he said. Even Barkely commented on the coaching. This just sucks... I know they can win but Karl shoots them in the foot tremendously. Van-Gundy even said at the half he would have come back with Klieza or JR, not Carter. He was ripping Karl on the LOW! LOL GO NUGGETS

j2y2k3 said...

I think Van Gundy is running a campaign for the Nuggets Job. And to be honest I'd love to have him as a coach right now. He showed more emotion and frustration than the Coach has shown all season.

Please hire Van Gundy, we need his passion and we need his desire to get the most out of his players on defense!

Anonymous said...

Thank goodness, I'm not the only one who noticed Van Gundys comments on the Nuggets game. This guy knows what he's talking about, I would love to have him coach Denver.

If Van Gundy was coaching game 1 instead of George Karl, we would of won..hands down. I'll repeat what Van Gundy said.

" I would not start Anthony Carter in the second half, I would move AI to the point and play JR at the 2 "

Seriously, this guy knows what he's talking about. Having AC on the court with AI... wow, you have like 28,3956 mis-matches. Put AC on the bench where the scrub belongs. He's hurting the team tremendously.

I'm telling you right now like everyone has said, you start AC in game 2 ( which is gonna happen )...It's over for the Nuggets.

Marcus Camby needs to go, weakest 7 footer I've ever seen play. This is a nightmare for the Nuggets.

But I'm placing the blame on GK and AC for sucking so much at the game of basketball.

Get rid of AC and GK. That should be the name of this site.

And where was Chucky Atkins at? He's a veteran that can actually score and lead this team to victory.

This is just terrible. I can't believe this.

Anonymous said...

Can we have Andre Miller back? I like AI, but the experiment isn't working. We need him to move the ball, not just dribble out the clock and pass when you have no shot.
Anthony Carter, omg... Does he think he is good? Why is he starting? Why isn't JR starting? Karl's ego is preventing him from giving this team a real chance to win. JR showed a TON of maturity tonight. To the guy who said he didn't, did you not see him get taken out under the basket, then get up and go see if Walton (I think) was alright and give him a pat? The old JR would have attacked Walton.
Marcus Camby disgusted me, once again. He is a cherry picker. He lets people step right by him for easy layups. He is a puss. Watch his mannerisms, he is scared. Anytime we play a team with a real center they kick his ass. I'm also tired of him thinking he can play offense.
Melo's lack of fire disappointed me...
A.I. quitting on us tonight (purposely getting tosses - if you don't believe me watch as he untucked his jersey and started walking towards the locker room BEFORE his 2nd technical.)
I don't even want to mention Karl because it is pointless, but I'll say just a little. Since coming to Denver, he hasn't yet found a real starting lineup. How many years does he need to figure it out??? Karl is just happy to be alive, win or lose, its alright to him. He brings no fire to this team. He has a different excuse each night. He has one of the most talented teams in the league and barely made the playoffs. And don't give me that "The West is so competitive" crap. You are measured by how well you compete against your competition. If the West gets better, you have to as well. Karl is an idiot and we all know this except Kronke. Get this clown out of here!

DeAngelo Starnes said...

The Laker chants of "DUI" were juvenile, as Van Gundy pointed out. So why would Nugget fans choose to be just as juvenile by coming up with a chant for Kobe based on old news? It's just going to fire him up and make him more focused.

It's not AC's fault the coach puts him in a bad situation. He plays with heart but he's gotta sit down during this series.

AI played with a lotta heart but that was bush league to get himself tossed. Reminded me of Warren Sapp purposely getting himself tossed out of the Jaguars game last season (yes I am a Raiders fan).

As much as I criticized AI previously, I take it back somewhat because when I saw how selfish Melo was with the ball, taking terrible shots, making awful decisions, playing no defense. I mean it's okay to hack as a message when a team is performing lay-up drills.

KMart, Smith, and Kleiza came to play. If I were Karl, I'd sit Melo for long stretches, make him sit next to me, and consistently point out how Kleiza and Smith are driving to the hole.

I'd put KMart on Gasol, Camby on Odom, AI on Fisher, Melo on Radmanovic, and Smith on Kobe.

Don't have much to add to what has already been said.

Stall the chants though. That's childish.

Anonymous said...

http://deadspin.com/381689/free-darko-on-los-angeles+denver

chillz said...

Karl Opted to make 3 mismatches instead of just 1...

Iverson On Fisher = AI 30 - Fish 11
Smith on Kobe = JR 15 - Kobe 30
Anthony on Radmonovich = 30 - 9
Martin on Odom = Kmart 12 - Odom 10
Camby on Gasol = Cam 12 - Gasol 20

If they played that way the game would be in the Nuggets Favor... Many will say well Kobe could get WAY more then 30... Well so could AI and Melo.

I will not watch the game if Carter starts the next one.

Leave Karl in Denver = Nuggets win...

kenoshakid said...

I think this season should go down in history as "the Anthony Carter season" to honor the player that torpedoed any hope the nuggets had. No other player sticks out more in my mind when I think about the last year. And as this blog has noted, it's not really Carter's fault-he's a backup PG inexplicably given 30+ mins a night despite the starting PG's return from injury and the rise of JR, just so the coach can prove some kind of point. The Carter debacle gets more bizarre by the day-it's like the nuggets are tanking to get a high lottery pick, except it's the playoffs. I'm wondering if Karl is trying to get fired. I'm predicting a resignation shortly after this LA series mercifully ends.

Ken said...

You guys are Just bitter and looking at a way to Even the Playing field with what is One of 2 Teams Projected to win it all.


Also You dont remember How much Crap you guys Gave Kobe after that Scandal in Denver ?

This D-U-I chant and Sending you guys Home for the Year is Pay Back.

Pay Back's a B*TCH

Anonymous said...

M-V-P.........M-V-P

LMFAO ya'll suck major balls

Anonymous said...

Skip from 1st and 10 (ESPN First Take) says the Nuggets will win the series. Wow. Someone in the media who actually believes in the Nuggets.

A breath of fresh air.

Anonymous said...

Melo should be ripped on the regular for his lack of defense... he has zero pride on the defensive end.

Anonymous said...

I watch the last couple of nuggets game. Where is NENE, Chucky Akins, Steven Hunter? are these player still not feeling well? Karl can't be that bad of a coach? what make Detroit and Boston so good is they play deep into there bench and demand defense. Nuggets can win this series if every player play there role. Camby defend the bucket, don't look for points, AI will make sure you get them when u they present. Martin run the floor and defend, you will get puts too, don't try to make them. Melo pass the ball out of the douple team. AI do what you do, if the J not falling go to the bucket, they can't stop you and oh don't give Camby the ball out from the bucket, he not a creator. u do it for him and Martin. Rest of the make open shoots and hell!! put a body on somebody. George Karl you gotta go deeper n your bench, it may be to late now since these guys haven't played all year. your coaching abilities are being ?

Anonymous said...

I am a laker fan, and I agree the the DUI chants were juvenile and inappropriate and I am ashamed of laker fans for that, but acting like the denver fans are so much more mature are above stuff like that is ridiculous.

Kobe took so much verbal abuse in denver after returning to colorado following the scandal (before he got his due process, before a settlement was reached). So, please be fair, yes the chants were childish and not necessary, but immature denver fans do the same thing.

Anonymous said...

You criticize the lakers fans for the chant, but the nugget fans haven't been exactly the "model crowd" in the past. During Kobe's trial, the nuggets fans, and in fact many of the nba teams fans, chanted derogatory chants at kobe.
You criticize the lakers fans, but yet you endorse the nuggets fans to chant at kobe as "payback." Yet again we see the hypocritical nature of sports fans.

Truth About It said...

Juvenile? Who cares?

NBA crowds could use a dose of a college-like atmosphere (douche-bag Maryland fans notwithstanding).

I really like aforementioned 'no means no' but if I must come up with some on my own:

"Dia-mond Ring, Dia-mond Ring."

"Rat-out-Shaq, Rat-out-Shaq."

Awww.....eff it. Just stick with 'No Means No' - it sends a good message.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what we can get for Mello via a trade? I don't think he will ever "get it". I would like to see the Nuggets build around AI and the other players. They should also trade Camby. I like him, but I don't think he has another injury free season in him.

Fiyah said...

Well to be fair... when Kobe was going through his rape charge problems, Denver Nuggets fans would actually chant "RAPIST" or brandish really provoking signs to the game. Tit for tat I guess.

Allen said...

Not classy by Lakers fans, BUT

The DUI thing happened, like a few days ago, what do you expect?

Maybe the fans should chant "airball" to reference Kobe's airballs in Utah 10 years ago, how's that?

bobby steels said...

Can you guys name a better starting point guard in the playoffs than anthony carter?

that took some time didnt it?

haha. that's just my point.

well, it's only the beginning of the end when we start Anthony Carter at point guard in the playoffs. At least he is better than Chucky.

i like you melo, but u really need to stop taking ridiculous shots and then smirking about it after you miss more than you make. i dont find it funny as a fan that u think taking shots over 3 people funny while LK and JR are wide open. You need to act like the train in your commercial and choo choo down to the paint and play around there instead of the perimeter.

camby, i really dont know why you choose to do a reverse layup when all u have to do is lay it in. i dont care how difficult your shots are and please stop shooting jumpshots, you're not Sheed.

Karl, u incompetant human being of a coach. please stop starting AC and just play the best 5 we have. we won't lose bench scoring as long as either JR or LK come off the bench.

This AC/ AI combo = payton/ cassel aka gollum = first round exit.

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ET said...

I thought the nuggets still had a chance to catch up in the end. The point where the game was pretty much over was when JR smith fouled out. The nuggets were on a 9-0 run before then with iverson scoring like 6 points and the lead was down to 9. JR's last foul plus iverson's 2 technicals gave kobe 6 free throws. I totally thought the nuggets were still within reach when they were down 9.

I agree with the comments about more JR + kleiza.
Hopefully nene will come back. The problem is i think even if he does he will have limited minutes.

Anonymous said...

Whatever...go ahead and scream "no means NO" or "Hide your daughters." Have some fun with your little chants as the Lakers scores 128 on you. Later on you guys are going to be saying to each other, "Kobe got the MVP hum."

LA Ball Talk said...

I actually thought the "D-U-I" chants were kinda funny, I'm looking forward to seeing what these clever Denver fans have in store for Kobe!! It will be interesting... perhaps after he makes an amazing and 1 reverse scoop layup someone in the front row can yell, "Kobe, you've got the hands of a rapist!!"

"adul-ter-eeeeee"
clap, clap... clap, clap clap

Daniel - www.laballtalk.com

Anonymous said...

DUI DUI DUI HAHAHAHA thats priceless. I hope you chant at Kobe it will just drive him more and the series will be over in 4 and "Mello" can drink and drive all he wants!

j2y2k3 said...

I'm scared about Melo's game. He needs to be a better passer. Right from the Olympics qualifiers a couple years ago I've been wary of his selfishness. He really, really wants to score. More so than any player I've seen. He works hard granted, but dang when you're tripled team someone is open. You're not gonna get to the foul line all the time.
Melo doesn't move without the ball, and unfortunately that is when he is most efficient. I no he is one of the best one on one players but he is better cutting to the basket and running through screens, something like Rip Hamilton.
Of course, thats a coaching issue though...

Anonymous said...

I do sincerely hope that the Nuggets fan would start chanting insults at Kobe, that way he gets angry and performs Brain-salad surgery on your team. If non of you were watching the game, he did became a lot aggressive and scored 28 pts in the second half when A. Carter angered him with a push, but then again I am sure the Nuggets' "stifling" defense should be credited with stopping him. Best of luck to your team, and let's all pray they don't let Carmelo fly the plane back.

chillz said...

I was just utterly embarrased to be a Nugget Fan after that game... The Media... The Bandwagon Lakers fans... All said how the Nuggets Play no D, they don't have any toughness and thier gonna get routed... and The Nuggets went out and proved them 100% right! Then Lakers fans are everywere Talking... Just Talking crap. This has to be the worst feeling for the Nuggets Fans. Karl should just stay home if he's not gonna even try to coach.

Kieran said...

There's only one reason that AC is still playing as much as he is. I cannot believe that the +/- numbers we've all seen have evaded the seven-man Nuggets coaching staff. They're not that stupid. I think that George is simply too stubborn to admit that now he's wrong. If he starts JR, and the team plays well, it's an indictment of his coaching choices for the entire season. I think he'd rather get fired. If George started JR and Kleiza, the Lakers would still probably win the series. They are, after all, a better team. But the Nuggets would at least have a puncher's chance. The Nuggs were -24 out there with AC. The Nuggs aren't good enough to recover from that.

Anonymous said...

danjustin said...
"NO MEANS NO!" Yea its simple but it makes it easier for the entire crown to chant.

I like that one..lol

Paul said...

I was thinking....

"D-U-I !!!! D-U-I !!!""


From a Lakers Fan who was at Game1
and STARTED DUI DUI DUI

Anonymous said...

ha!

You guys were the one who started the chants against Kobe several years ago...so I'm glad LA showed as much class as Denver did....

Maybe you guys can think of some new Kobe chants to say when you're watching him in the 2nd round.

Anonymous said...

9-23? that's not mvp.

kenoshakid said...

Oh yeah, and no mention yet of that unspeakable pre-game "fire-up" session with the coaching staff. As if the on-court performance wasn't embarrassing enough.

Anonymous said...

SETTLEMENT?!?!? That's all you have? Come up with something better before Kobe gets to Denver, settlement... Come on, that's just terrible.

For the person that suggested using "Hide your daughters" that's pathetic that you even think that, keep the attacks on Kobe that's fine with me, just don't get into his daughter or his family, they're not a part of that nor should they be. Just have some class, and have a clever chant that's all. It's all fun in games really.

Oh and by the way, try not to come up with something that'll piss Kobe off, because you all know what happens when Kobe is pissed... Just a heads up.

GO LAKERS!

Anonymous said...

good luck when you piss kobe off, all you're going to get is another 30+ point game from him, and your nuggets will be back to another disappointing season with some of the greatest talent in the NBA.

Anonymous said...

instead of the M.V.P chant Nuggets fans should chant R.A.P.E.

Zafir said...

i have the PERFECT chant, although I think you guys already used it Denver. either way, use it again:

"NO MEANS NO! NO MEANS NO!"

haha, brilliant.

Anonymous said...

wow so many haters. lets remember that the girl just wanted an easy way to get money since she worked at a hotel and couldn't get onto american idol. o yeah she was from colorado. hahaha. its melos fault he got the DUI. kobe's skills will shut u guys up hahahaha

Anonymous said...

at least the lakers play defense. The nuggets aren't that clean either. look at j.r. smith, iverson they have been in trouoble b4 and melo has been in trouble before too. go LAKERS. can't wait until the lakers Sh** in the nuggets.

Anonymous said...

Try coming up with something more recent.

MVP MVP MVP

Sounds good to me, :-)

Mark said...

I'm another Laker fan in enemy territory here. I'm with deangelo from above - the DUI chant was despicable and hopefully the work of just a few knucklehead losers.

If you really want to make us look bad, you should take the high road and just cheer the living bejesus out of your own squad.

Anonymous said...

When Kobe's at the FT line for the 20th time in the 3rd quarter and we're down 100-75, let's chant M-V-P!!!

Anonymous said...

How about a play on Kobe's ridiculously smug attitude. "We got Thugs you got Smug!"

Anonymous said...

I thought some people might be interested to see what Karl was up to yesterday. There's some video footage of him coaching and giving locker room speeches on NBA.com.

Just go to their 'Video' section and click on 'Sunday's Best Wireless.' Probably the most intense he's been all year, but what does it matter when your team can do shit as a team.

RC3 said...

How about just shutting up and enjoying the Lakers thrashing of your McNuggets!! Or how about "De-fense, De-fense!! and explaining to the team that its a request not just what Melo's gonna need when he goes to court!!

danjustin said...

LOL look at all these lakers bandwagon trolls using anonymous names....what you too scared your identity may be found? LOL

This is why Lakers are the most pathetic fan base in the entire league. Yes suns fans may be delusional but atleast they dont hide 300 days of the year

Anonymous said...

Whats wrong with "DUI, DUI"!? Melo ADMITTED to driving drunk and endangering lives...Last I checked Kobe was never convicted of anything...the case against him was so weak that it was dropped! I cant believe there's not more outrage in Denver about Melo's recklessness...Nuggets fan was sooo upset about some loose girls allegations, why not be enraged about the hundreds of people that were endangered by Melo's DRUNK DRIVING!

At any rate its not that important, because soon Denver fan can go bak to worshiping their Elway monuments and WISHING they had as good a team as L.A. has!

blue said...

just like a laker fan to think that a DUI is worse than rape...you stay classy LA

*(a DUI that he hasn't been convicted of yet)

Anonymous said...

How about MVP-MVP-MVP?

Kobe will so shocked, he'll not only miss his FT's but lose his concentration for the rest of the game.

Laker Fan said...

haha, Denver fan getting upset at the DUI chants calling it juvenile, all the while you guys are planning to do the same. That's really "unjuvenile!"

I'm a Laker fan, but I thought the chants were stupid and uncalled for.

Josh said...

I'm a DIEHARD Laker fan from another state besides Cali or Colorado reading from the TrueHoop section from ESPN.

Apparently, some fool out of the 18,997 people started chanting "DUI", and the rest just carried on. The whole stadium caught on just because it was funny. That's just how playoff games are.

Was it wrong to chant? Yes? Should Denver fans follow? No. Why? a) Obviously, it is a mismatch is against a team that is arguably most likely to make it out the the Finals and b) the rape case was not confirmed because of lack of evidence (that's why "Settle-ment seems more legit then what people here put, but still wrong), and the girl was a prostitute, looking for any possible ways to make a buck or two. The only thing KB24 will "rape" is the Denver "defense".

So before you Nuggets fans take action, please look at the current scenarios. I already bought my Western Conference Finals tix.

Lakers in June

Laker Fan said...

"just like a laker fan to think that a DUI is worse than rape...you stay classy LA

*(a DUI that he hasn't been convicted of yet)"

you're an idiot

josh said...

And last time I checked, Nuggets fans even chanted "rapist" during the Kobe case. What a hypocracy, blaming us Laker fans for attacking Melo.

Lakers in June

Anonymous said...

"LOL look at all these lakers bandwagon trolls using anonymous names....what you too scared your identity may be found? LOL

This is why Lakers are the most pathetic fan base in the entire league. Yes suns fans may be delusional but atleast they dont hide 300 days of the year"

wtf, yes lets give out our names to complete strangers on the internet, good one moron :)


Maybe nugget fans should think of recent things to chant to kobe, not rape or shaq chants, it will just make nugget fans look real stupid, that guy was right, might as well chant airball referring to his rookie season.

Whats next? the one time he got called for a foul in 99? :p

Anonymous said...

Kobe will rape our defense because it is a vanilla defense. :D

greg said...

I agree with you in the fact that the Nuggets need a coach that will demand defense and team play. I disagree that Smith needs more playing time. When he is hot he is un-gaurdable and thats when you keep him in the game. If you multiplied everyones stats by 48 minutes you would see that he would have more turnovers a game than everyone in basketball by alot (espn.go.com has the stats) He is typical example of pure physical talent with out the brains. Someone needs to show these young players the light. They are too wrapped up in this streetball mentality. If Smith played under a Bobby Knight or a Bill Self in College, he would be prepared to play 40+ minutes a game and would have a better understanding of how you actually win a game.

Anonymous said...

HAHAHAHA...D-U-I was in responce to a certain word that has already been chanted at Kobe in the past. Don't act like it all started in that game, it started a long time ago.

Ty said...

check out George Losing it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSknYX9XTek

Kyle Nicholls said...

Hey Josh I hope you get a full refund on those finals tickets cause you are not getting out of this round. The Lakers won at home by only 14 when Gasol had the game of his life, and everyone except kleiza and JR had the worst of the year. Not to mention they missed 14 free throws (That is how much they lost by for you lakers fan). Denver will win Game 2 and then win all the their home games and finish this out in 6.

JEFF said...

good point kyle i think if they can get wednesday's game they could take the upper hand because they have been steller at home. lakers fan please get the hell out of this room its a nuggets fan site and i bet we wont hear you in here once we win this series

Anonymous said...

someone should make a blog: melopleaseplaydefense.com or melopleasestoptakingbadshots.com

Anonymous said...

Hey Denver, you've ALREADY chanted, screamed, yelled at KB24 whatever nasty thing you wanted for the last 4 years, so go ahead, the whole world's heard it all before... Thanks for the memories...

Anonymous said...

I am a denver fan and yes hearing the DUI chants did make me mad just like it makes the lakers fan when we make fun of kobe the raper. I will be at the game on saturday and trust me I will be yelling things at kobe so I guess we really cant get mad at LA for yelling cause everyone does it. The only reason it got press is because the announcers said it on ABC.

Anonymous said...

As a Laker fan who discovered this via TrueHoop, I will say this.

I find it hilarious that every single time they show George Karl giving a speech to the team, all he says is "KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND WE'LL WIN," or some strange variant of that statement. Not one time have I seen him actually tell them something to actually do. Never "feed the ball into the post more," or "run an iso for Allen, Fisher is too slow to put a body on him." He's just one extremely expensive motivational speaker.

Anonymous said...

And some of the people who have commented that thing Camby has a chance at holding Gasol to 20 points need to pay attention. Marcus Camby, bless his soul, is the most overrated defensive player of the past decade besides Ben Wallace (and I suppose Kobe should be thrown in there for good measure). The Nuggets best chance at defending Gasol is either Nene or Martin; Camby's man to man defense has always been suspect. Denver's a little short on manpower to really matchup even with this injured Lakers team.

Anonymous said...

"this injured lakers team."

how are the lakers injured? they're missing bynum and who else?? chris mihm?!?!

if so then the nuggets are just as injured as the lakers, so get over it man.

DeAngelo Starnes said...

Those with the proclivity to be childish and hurl insults at a player who will use it as motivation to destroy the unlucky sap who has the assignment to guard him seem to dominate this page.

Chants, though, won't have any impact on the game. So if the alcohol provides you the urge and it makes you feel better to come up with some stupid, vile shit, knock yourselves out.

Here's hoping that better defense and team offense help the Nuggets to victory.

DeAngelo Starnes said...

Also, I think the comments that point out the so-called victim was 'ho proving that Kobe did not rape her as accused proves how stupid any chant in that vein would be. Maybe that shows the IQ of the fans who think such a chant is cute or funny.

As for "Hide your daughters," you say that about any pro athlete.

Let's just cheer our team on and hope they live up to their payroll.

Anonymous said...

I was at the Lakers game cheerin "d-u-i d-u-i" yesterday and i admit it was fun to do it so denver fans stop being so bitter like you guys didnt boo kobe and chant things right after his rape case began. Stop being big babies and acting like Laker fans were wrong or something. Cheer and say whatever you'd like. Its part of the game and its part of being a fan of the opposing team. I'd expect nothing less than for Denver fans to get on Kobe or Gasol!!!

Anonymous said...

"Fire George Karl"

Boos...

"Fire George Karl"

More boos...

Anonymous said...

I don't advocate the personal attack chants on either side. Perhaps I am a little less surprised about the Denver fans chanting against Kobe since his scandal happened in Colorado. The Laker "fans" surprise me more. I mean, it's not as if Carmelo came to L.A. and crashed his car into a yoga retreat or pilates gym.

Anonymous said...

No Rape isnt worse or better than a DUI, they are both TERRIBLE, however Kobe wasnt convicted of anything while Melo already ADMITTED hes guilty...BIG DIFFRENCE!

homefrye said...

"this injured lakers team."

how are the lakers injured? they're missing bynum and who else?? chris mihm?!?!

Bynum [left knee injury], Ariza [broken right foot], Kobe [dislocated pinkie, right hand], Fisher [partial torn tendon, right foot]
Turiaf may have strep. throat and was sent home today. Mbenga is day-to-day w/ bruised rib.
As of right now, Gasol's the only healthy center we have. I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson had to play Odom at the C, Walton as PF and Kobe as SF while Gasol is resting if Turiaf can't make it back by wed; Jackson doesnt seem to trust Newble yet and Mihm's still out of shape from rehabing for most of the season.
If Denver ever had a chance, wednesday will be it; hopefully the series will get more interesting if the lakers lose 1 in Denver.
I'm a laker fan but I'm way more interested in the SA-PHX series right now; game 1 was f-ing RIDONKULOUS!

Anonymous said...

I figured out the best chant that makes the most sense,

"First Round Exit!"

"First Round Exit!"

Make sure you chant it during game 4, where you can alternate between that and the classic....

"Sweep"...."Sweep"

Don't waste your time or money, this series is over, you might as well chant, "Rebuild" , because you're through!!!

Anonymous said...

If you don't want people to chant DUI, there's an easy way to stop it. Don't get a DUI.

Thought the same way about Jason Kidd. Sorry, but I don't have much sympathy for a guy who beat his wife to get that chanted back at him. He chose to beat his wife. He deserves to get mocked for it.

Murl said...

There are two things that I noticed that seemed to be the biggest factors in the Nuggets loss. The first was their AWEFUL free throw shooting, 62% is not going to cut it. This is the players fault. The second was their total lack of defense in the third quarter. This is George Karl's fault. He didn't even play some of the roster. Those bench warmers couldn't have played any worse than the guys that were out there. We got outscored by 17, for crying out loud! Our coach is a moron.

Anonymous said...

I like "Sweep"...."Sweep" also

Make sure you bring your brooms for Game 4

markp said...

Two airballs in a row by Camby here in the 4th period. Are you kidding me ??? What the hell does it take to say to Camby... " WHATEVER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, DON'T TAKE A JUMP SHOT YOU DIPSHIT ! " ... " IF IRAN WERE TO DROP A NUKE ON THE USA, UNLESS OF COURSE YOU TAKE A JUMP SHOT TO SAVE THE NATION FROM TOTAL DESTRUCTION, DON'T TAKE THAT SHOT !!! " ... What a nightmare.

Anonymous said...

Sweep, sweep, sweep!

Anonymous said...

By the time this series is over, Iverson will be the MVP

Doug said...

LOL by 'MVP', do you mean 'Most Vagrant Player'? He's certainly not a 'Most Valuable Player' after his deplorable performance the entire series.