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Saturday Afternoon Recap: Let's see what happened in Denver sports this weekend...

Last night, the Rockies found themselves entangled in another NL West marathon when they lost 8-7 to the Los Angeles Dodgers in 13 innings. Hopefully they'll turn things around tonight when Mark Redman (2-1, 5.23 ERA) goes head-to-head with Brad Penny (3-2, 2.67 ERA). It's going to be a balmy night at Dodger Stadium, so Redman should be on his game.

Meanwhile, over in the AFL, the Crush lost 65-52 to the Chicago Rush. The Crush now find themselves 3-5 on the season, and a postseason berth is tenuous at best. But I think we can all expect a victory when Grand Rapids comes to town next weekend.

To make matters worse for Denver fans, earlier today the Avalanche lost 5-1 to the Detroit Red Wings in the NHL Playoffs, and now face a daunting 2-0 deficit in the series to their biggest rival. The Red Wings defense was especially tough today, so the Avalanche will need to step up their offense if they're to win any of the games ahead. I'd also like to see them mix up their line changes to try get Detroit out of sync somewhat.

And while the Avalanche struggled against the Red Wings, the Mammoth saw their hopes for a division title disappear when they lost 11-6 to the San Jose Stealth in the NLL. I really had my fingers crossed for the Mammoth all season, so lets hope they make some savvy off-season acquisitions to improve the team.

Thankfully, the Rapids just got underway in Chicago against the Fire. With both teams having won 4 and lost 2 on the season thus far, this is sure to be a well contested match. I'm guessing it will be a high scoring affair with at least one goal scored, and if we're lucky, two.

Oh, and by the way, the Nuggets @#$%& suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I agree. What can you even say about this team anymore? They're are a complete and utter joke. Carmelo is the biggest fraud in NBA history. Trade him while other teams actually think he has value.

P.S. Nice dig at soccer.

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 7:30 PM MDT reply actions  

2 words... "wasted talents". Way to go georgie

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 7:43 PM MDT reply actions  

Wow! A blowout loss at home? The Nuggets are way too talented for this to happen, ever! George Karl is the only person you can point the finger at for this one. I just hope they at least keep it close on Monday so my nosebleed ticket isn't a total waste of money. My condolences to those who attended today's game.

by Murl on Apr 26, 2008 7:46 PM MDT reply actions  

Fire Karl.
Trade Camby.
Draft PG.

by Chris C. on Apr 26, 2008 8:06 PM MDT reply actions  

Oh my goodness!! You people are soooooo stupid!! How can you blame Karl for Carmelo's play? AI has played hard but only on one end of the court and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which side that is!! You all are also foolish if you think Phil has everything to do with the Lakers success or even a great deal to do with it.... if it weren't for that "You can have paul for nothing" trade the lakers wouldn't even be at this point and not to mention that have the best player on the planet, just like before with the bulls. You people are soooo blind! It sucks when your two franchise players don't play defense and play 40 minutes a night. Go head and blame Karl but Al, Melo , and everyone else has been in the league long enough to learn how to pay defense and not take such terrible shoots such as Al, and Melo are taking not. I know you're saying it's the coaches fault for them being so selfish. Ok well if he sits Melo and AI for poor shots who is he gonna put in their place? JR?(also takes bad shots) Akins? (Also takes bad shots) Who??? And when he benches these players then you all get upset with that! Never pleasing fans!! Sad

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 8:13 PM MDT reply actions  

Bad news for nuggets fans (and this website)

"But for those of you who are wondering, a coaching change isn't on the menu. "We could lose both these games by a hundred and George [Karl]would still be the coach," a team source told me before Game 3."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=lakersnuggetsgame3_080426

Time to settle in for the long hall and accept Georgie.

by Andres on Apr 26, 2008 8:26 PM MDT reply actions  

What a disgusting display of effort tonight. Total selfish play, no pride at all. I loved seeing Melo jack up shot after shot after shot. He sucks. He's a doughboy too. What a joke, we need to trade him. He doesn't get it. Karl has obviously given up.

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 8:39 PM MDT reply actions  

What a disgusting display of effort tonight. Total selfish play, no pride at all. I loved seeing Melo jack up shot after shot after shot. He sucks. He's a doughboy too. What a joke, we need to trade him. He doesn't get it. Karl has obviously given up.

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 8:40 PM MDT reply actions  

Wow doesn't look like the rocks are going to do any better than the nugs' down 10-2 in the first. ouch

by shonuff101 on Apr 26, 2008 8:52 PM MDT reply actions  

Karl is a clown... The hawks are gonna beat the celtics tonight and the nuggets lose by 20 to the lakers at home. No doubt that its karl's fault for not putting together a game plan to beat the lakers atleast once, and yeah you can blame melo too he's an immature player and needs to get over himself, but ol' george is the one that is responsible for putting the team together. Pathetic is the only way to describe the game today. Seemed like they didnt even try...

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 8:54 PM MDT reply actions  

Down 10-2 in the first inning ouch doesn't look as though the rockies are going to help up out of this dreadful day. Although we can be happy about our broncos drafts picks, not sexy picks but quality picks.

by shonuff101 on Apr 26, 2008 8:54 PM MDT reply actions  

If they decide to keep KArl after watching this teams style of play this season, then they deserve to lose. Iverson needs to opt out and leave, because although he has had his mistakes, he doesn't deserve this. The guy has worked too hard in his career and had done too much. This team is a joke and wasn't prepared to win from the start. Carmelo is a joke and I am glad he is getting exposed for what he really is.

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 8:55 PM MDT reply actions  

Wow, the Carmelo haters are out in full force.

The guy had one bad game. His stats were great this season.

What was it? 24/7/3?

I'd take that every day of the week.

Once we get a real center and real PG, things might turn around. Camby gets way too much of a free pass.

by Chris C. on Apr 26, 2008 9:01 PM MDT reply actions  

Ugh, AI blows hard...

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 9:24 PM MDT reply actions  

To defend the Avs- they played a bad game but the team deserves respect. They have been plagued by injuries all season (even worse than the nuggets) but have never complained once. After todays loss someone asked Ian Laperriere about the injuries and he said, "if we use that as an excuse, we have to do something else with our lives."

The team has played together as a whole all season long with whatever players were available. They made the playoffs in a competitive race and won the first round against a team the national media thought would beat the Avs.

Go Avs-

The Nuggets need some of the class, attitude, dedication, and desire that the Avs have showed all season long. I feel good about the Avs after an embarrassing loss, I can't stand the Nuggets after todays loss.

by Not anonymous? on Apr 26, 2008 9:32 PM MDT reply actions  

Andres, I'm not stressing because John Hollinger proves he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about in the article. Example:
"Picture a couple more shooters, acquired in free agency or via trade for the likes of Nene and Kenyon Martin."

Are you seriously THAT stupid?!? Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, is stupid enough to trade for Kenyon Martin's contract. Martin's contract is THE worst in the league. And I truly enjoy Kmart. I think he's a very good player and has a great heart on the court, but he's the highest paid player (right?) on the court and his contract is WAY too high for someone to take him. Only the Nuggets would pay something that stupid for him. Karl will be gone or else I fear I don't have the stomach to watch them next year, whats the point?

by Christian on Apr 26, 2008 9:35 PM MDT reply actions  

Please don't compare the Avs to the Nuggets. The Avs really did have injuries all season and lack the talent the Nuggets have. They simply got out played. The Nuggets just don't put in the effort, as Melo said, they quit. People will get on Melo for saying that, but sadly its true...

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 9:36 PM MDT reply actions  

Carmelo doesn't have anyone to blame but himself. He has been quitting on and off all season. I have never seen a "star" player that puts in the half effort he does. He is no type of leader to be calling anyone out. Tired of making excuses for that guy.

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 9:43 PM MDT reply actions  

Did everyone see the Hawks beat up on Boston tonight. Karl is fond of saying that there is very little difference between even the best and worst teams in the NBA. Well the Hawks have proven, that any team can beat any other team by playing hard for all four quarters. Watching that win, I couldn't help but realize that the Nuggets are by far the most pathetic team in the playoffs this year. What good does 50 wins do. The Hawks won 37. 29 less than their playoff foes. You're right George, any team has a chance.

by Not anonymous? on Apr 26, 2008 9:49 PM MDT reply actions  

Two things of importance that I think are being left out.

1. The refs totally screwed the Nuggets we could not buy a call tonight. Not that our lackluster effort helped matters, but the refs were terrible. It was the 2nd or 3rd Q where the Lakers didn't even get a foul called until under two minutes left.

2. Many fans at the arena might have missed it, but the most entertaining part of the night was the two girls that got into a fist fight halfway through the 4th quarter. There was hair pulling and some straight up gangster shit going down. These bitches were jacking each other up. Once it broke up the cops came in and tried to arrest one of the girls. Her boyfriend got in the middle of her and the cop, and the cops threw him over the seats. The game was sooo boring that most fans in the area were watching the fight rather than watch that pitiful game.

Also, I sat behind the Lakers bench. I heard the following from Kobe. and this is an approximate quote from him to his team: "These motherfuckers are going to talk shit when we are blowing them away, its time to embarrass these motherfuckers." He had a very valid point. Who the hell talks shit when they are getting blown away at home? We looked pathetic out there and we were talking crap. Absolutely embarrassing.

Once again I think they played hard until they realized the refs were not going to let them do anything.

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 9:53 PM MDT reply actions  

Sheridan has a crucial piece on the Nuggets roster issues:

Notice a trend here? The Nuggets can score in bunches if they surround Iverson and Anthony with shooters. They can get by with one non-spacer -- either Martin or Camby -- at the five. And otherwise, there just isn't enough room for their two big scorers to operate at peak effectiveness.

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And BTW, the problem isn't how they're performing in the Lakers' series. It's a bad matchup for them. Moving K-Mart to Kobe opened up the inside for the Lakers, as one could've figured out before the series. That's what happens when you don't have a perimeter defender with a little height.

The problem is the losses to Sacramento and Seattle that didn't let the Nuggets avoid the Lakers. Check out how little playing time J.R. got in those games. Karl was busy teaching Smith a lesson, and it came back to bite us.

by Petey on Apr 26, 2008 9:57 PM MDT reply actions  

"why are you smiling? what are you smiling about? you're down 0-2 and your shooting 2 for 10." - Reggie Miller on Melo

I completely concur, why he thinks getting absolutely punished is funny i have no idea.

i feel bad for the fans of the nuggets, i feel bad for the owner, i feel bad for AI, JR and Kenyon guys that truly put forth their best effort.

i dont feel bad for Karl and i dont feel bad for melo.

i guess there is a silver lining to this season. CHANGES WILL BE MADE!

by bobby steels on Apr 26, 2008 10:10 PM MDT reply actions  

I agree with the commentor who said that you can't lay full blame of this loss on Karl. He didn't suit up to play.

Unless he practiced them so hard they had no energy to play hard in this game. That happened to the Lakers against the Suns in '90. Riley practiced them so hard their legs were shot and they lost the series.

I don't think that was the case. The fact is the Nuggets looked like they had defeated themselves in their minds.

I think we should retire that the Nuggets are wasted talents. What talent have you seen out there? They're not making shots, they're not moving well without the basketball, they're not rebounding, they're not passing, and they're not playing defense. Collectively, they seem to possess a low basketball IQ.

They don't have a go-to guy on offense or a shut-down defender. Sure, throw the rotten tomatoes and put up AI and Melo as go-to offensive guys. Have they hit any big shots in this series? Have they taken over the offense?

I wanted to see them do better, and if they come out and kick ass Monday, I'll be cheering. But deep down, I hope the Lakers put this season to a merciful end.

Sure wish I would've seen those two chicks fight. Hopefully, we'll get a blow-by-blow. That sounds infinitely more entertaining that the game.

by DeAngelo Starnes on Apr 26, 2008 10:17 PM MDT reply actions  

You feel bad for AI??? are you serious? What do you feel bad about, the 5-16 shooting or the miserable 3 assists? Pull your head out of your ass.

by TJ on Apr 26, 2008 10:27 PM MDT reply actions  

hey tj, tell your mom i want my 5 dollars back!

by bobby steels on Apr 26, 2008 10:34 PM MDT reply actions  

I really don't think karls a bad coach but I feel that the players don't listen to him and think they know it all. That same selfish know it all method is why they are getting it handed to them right now! I think Karls a good coach with a bunch of knuckle heads he's tired of telling the same thing over and over and OVER AGAIN!! I think his resume make speaks louder than any player on his team! Luv you Karl!

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 10:46 PM MDT reply actions  

As Joel Quinville says in those innane commercials on Altitude, " It's time for a line change ".

by markp on Apr 26, 2008 11:06 PM MDT reply actions  

that's it! i am officially wearing a bag on my head for game 4.

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 11:17 PM MDT reply actions  

I feel bad for AI because he put his alot into this season and at least was trying to help this team compete. And if it wasn't for him, that team probably wouldn't be in the playoffs all together. I feel sorry for him because he is a hall of fame player and should be on a team committed to winning and contending.

The only players on this team that you can honastly say give effort everynight (regardless if they have a bad shooting night or not) is AI, Kenyon, Eddie, JR, maybe Klieza and AC. Thats right, regardless if AC is not the right PG for the team, he still gives effort. I don't feel sorry for all those players that have taken nights off on this team. And certainly don't feel sorry for Carmelo, a player that thinks its okay to coasts through games on any given night and then have the nerve to call his teammates out and say they "gave up".

I don't care if a player has an off night, it happens, but at least show up and compete. Throughout the season the majority of this team thought it was okay to show up when they wanted to and their talent would get them by, which at some points is true, but their cockiness got the best of them in some games and they allowed lesser teams to sneak up and bite them in the ass. That team messed up their own chances to have better playoff positioning and success. They made their bed, so now they need to lay in it.

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 11:17 PM MDT reply actions  

I think it would be dumb to break up AI and Melo at this point. Let's at least see what they would look like if they were actually coached. This team came into the playoffs unprepared. Sure they score, but they are scoring off of talent. So instead of working on unifying the team with a system to compliment what they do best, Karl just let's them play. They have no unity at what they're good at (scoring), so how do you expect them to have unity at what they suck at (defense)? This team was never together at either end of the floor, they just have the talent to put points on the board. I could tell from the pre-season when all the players said Karl just "lets them run." Now it is clear to see that these players are not concerned about their "coach's" job whatsoever. Bring in Larry Brown OR get rid of AI. As soon as this city gets rid of Melo (who is still 23 for goodness sake and who has been the best player on the Olympic squad, lest we forget) the sooner history will repeat itself in Denver. The entire teams attitude, starting with Melo, is a reflection of its leadership. I can't believe some people actually want a 32 year old who still dribbles too much (and was snubbed from the Olympic squad for that very reason) to be the franchise player. This team needs a system and someone who will hold he stars accountable, not someone who doesn't want to "waste their energy." Good riddance Karl.

by TraSoul82 on Apr 26, 2008 11:25 PM MDT reply actions  

who's with me? brown paper bags on your heads for the last game of the season!

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 11:33 PM MDT reply actions  

Why even go if you have to wear a bag?? Stay home!! You're no true fan!! I think you're a perfect example of the fans you have in Denver. This site is full of them.

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 11:43 PM MDT reply actions  

if i could get tickets i would be down to wear a bag on my head for game four

by Anonymous on Apr 26, 2008 11:59 PM MDT reply actions  

TraSoul82

That 32 yr old that you speak of that "dribbles too much" was the least of team U.S.A's problem in 04. Him and Tim Duncan were probably the only ones that made people proud. Also, a lot of people beleive Iverson was snubbed because he is 'Allen Iverson' and it had nothing to do with him 'dribbling the ball'. Thats all commentators were talking about, was how he got snubbed and deserved to be there. So give it a rest.

People keep bringing up Iversons age as if he's 42 yrs old. The guy is only 32, players like Tim Duncan, K.G, Steve Nash and many other elite players are all around the same age as Iverson, if not older. Even Kobe is about to be 30 yrs old. And Iverson seems to have not slowed down, which should work in his favor. Iverson went from being the face of one of the largest franchise markets in the entire league with the 76ers. What would he want with the Nuggets franchise, which is one of the smallest markets in the league? Him being there has at least brought more attention to that franchise then it ever had before, even with Carmelo. All AI seems to want to do is win. I'm sure he can careless about being the main franchise player. Although, being who he is, he will automatically be a face of a team..i'm sure he is not trying to take anything away from Carmelo, who buy the way...is not a real franchise player anyway at this point. You talk about Iversons dribbling, but try asking Carmelo to stop hanging onto the ball for 10 seconds without movement, waiting for the double team, then shooting over it.

by Anonymous on Apr 27, 2008 12:28 AM MDT reply actions  

Carmelo's contract is radioactive and Isiah Thomas is no longer in charge of the NY Knicks. Good luck trying to move him.

by Big Dog on Apr 27, 2008 1:16 AM MDT reply actions  

I agree with the earlier comments that Camby gets way too much credit. He is so overrated it makes me sick. PEople in Denver used to complain that we could never win with Dikembe because he was one-dimensional just like Camby. But I would take Dikembe any day over him, at least he could play some offense!

Karl is also overrated and hopefully will get fired for the 5th time in his career. He said on his radio show (AM950) that he designed the offense to be one-on-one with Melo and AI. I called the show twice to remind them about this since Karl seems mostly immune to criticism on that show.

Fred

by Fred on Apr 27, 2008 6:33 AM MDT reply actions  

I agree with the earlier comments that Camby gets way too much credit. He is so overrated it makes me sick. PEople in Denver used to complain that we could never win with Dikembe because he was one-dimensional just like Camby. But I would take Dikembe any day over him, at least he could play some offense!

Karl is also overrated and hopefully will get fired for the 5th time in his career. He said on his radio show (AM950) that he designed the offense to be one-on-one with Melo and AI. I called the show twice to remind them about this since Karl seems mostly immune to criticism on that show.

Fred

by Fred on Apr 27, 2008 6:33 AM MDT reply actions  

all those who think that AI should be trade...
A lot of you have forgotten that he has a broken finger like Kobe, however the only difference is AI is the smallest player on the court.
Also, a lot of people say that the nuggets could win a championship if they were better ...w/o Iverson the Nuggets are worse than the Sacramento
Kings.
A good amount of current Nugget fans are fans because AI (the most popular player since MJ) came to Denver. But if you like get rid of AI, I'm sure Charlotte would love to have him right now.

by j2y2k3 on Apr 28, 2008 7:45 AM MDT reply actions  

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