Taking a page out of the Bush Administration's and Hillary Clinton's (proving that this site is bi-partisan) ability to continually redefine what "success" means in the Iraq War and a Presidential race, respectively, Coach Karl and the Nuggets have been trying to dupe us fans - and the local media - into thinking that winning 50 games and making the playoffs will be considered an "amazing achievement" this year. Before getting into all of this, I want to re-clarify that I'm the last person who wants to hate on the Nuggets and am openly rooting for them to not only win at least 50 games, but win a playoff series (or god forbid, two, so I can be proven wrong about the coach, rescind my demand for a coaching change and stop annoying my readers with email updates).
But as stated in my Saturday post, I won't get conned into this "if the Nuggets win 50 games it would be an amazing achievement" nonsense. Just because the Nuggets underachieved up until this blog launched and refused to play with any sense of urgency or cohesiveness (hence the reason why this blog launched), suddenly getting their act together in time to sneak into the playoffs doesn't mean anything unless they win a playoff series. Frankly, I couldn't care less if the Nuggets win 50 games, or 54 games, or 48 games, etc. Lest we forget, before attempting to redefine success as of a week ago, everyone in the Nuggets camp cited a playoff series victory as the benchmark for a successful 2007-08 campaign.
As far as I'm concerned, while 50 wins and a playoff series absence is a complete and utter failure, winning 50 games and losing in the playoffs is also a failure (although not quite as dramatic of one). But after watching the Nuggets kick the crap out of the Seattle Supersonics in historic fashion (again) tonight, I have news for Nuggets fans everywhere: the Nuggets are winning 51 games and just might make the playoffs.
Doing my Woody Paige "take a look at the schedule" impersonation, here's how the season is going to shake out. I'm going to add up their record in parentheses as we go along (starting from tonight's record of 40-26)...
-Over the course of the Nuggets next five road games against inferior teams - except Detroit - the Nuggets will go 3-2. (Improving the Nuggets to 43-28). I'm assuming we'll lose the Detroit game and blow one of the two trap games - at Philadelphia or at Memphis - since each is the second of back-to-backs (i.e. the type of games the Nuggets historically lose).
-Next, the Nuggets will win both of their two home games against Dallas and Golden State, the teams we're desperately trying to catch and/or surpass. (45-28)
-The Nuggets then have a home and home with Phoenix, which they'll also split. (46-29)
-After the mini-series with Phoenix, the Nuggets play three inferior Western Conference opponents (albeit two on the road), including Seattle again, and I'm guessing they'll go 3-0. (49-29)
-Then comes the toughest three games of the season - at Golden State, at Utah and home against Houston (on a back-to-back after the Utah game). Considering the Nuggets haven't won a single big game on the road all season, I'm betting they go 1-2 here. (50-31)
-And finally, the Nuggets get another home game against Memphis (their third of three games against Memphis in three weeks), which they'll win. (51-31)
Ahhh...but what about Golden State you ask? Currently 41-24 and just a game-and-a-half better than Denver, the Warriors have a brutal schedule and I believe will go 10-7 down the stretch to also finish 51-31 (including splitting their two games against the Nuggets). Worse yet, I predict that the Nuggets and Warriors conference records will both be 31-21.
[UPDATED] As one of my readers astutely pointed out, there is no play-in game in the NBA. This means that whatever team has the best record against .500 or better teams between the Nuggets and Warriors gets the 8th seed. Currently, the Nuggets are 15-19 against plus .500 teams, and the Warriors are 17-16. If their records against .500 teams are also tied, the next tiebreaker is accumulative points scored in the teams' four regular season games against each other.
So what does this all mean at this point? When the Nuggets have been dysfunctional and inconsistent all year, why even try to make predictions now?
I simply want to point out to my readers and Nuggets fans everywhere not to fall for this redefinition of success. And while we should be enthusiastic and 100% supportive as they fight hard to get into the playoffs, we should also hold them accountable if they fail to make the playoffs, or make the postseason but fail to win a series for the fifth consecutive year. This coach was hired (and is paid handsomely) and this team was built (and is paid even more handsomely) to not only make the playoffs, but win multiple playoff series.
Sunday, March 16, 2008
Redefining success, Nuggets style [UPDATED]...
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Exactly!No playoff or no wins in playoff series means failure.Period.I also don't buy that nonsense amazing 50 wins accomplishment!
right now looking forward to seeing how well they will do in the coming 5 games.Another big test week.
i'd love to see that. GSW and DEN playing off for the 8th spot.
SnakefromHell checks in,
I agree.
I couldn't be more frustrated with fans who're swayed by every good game the Nuggets have.
The Nuggets have proven time and time again for years they will cave in after 4-6 good games. There's no reason not to believe otherwise.
Furthermore, if we get to the playoffs, we'd be lucky to face a first round opponent with defense like the Sonics.
In other words, if you think Nuggets can score 110, 120, 130 in the playoffs, and expect them to win with this streetball offensive powerball, you're far off. Excellent defensive teams like the Spurs and Lakers will put the clamps down from the opening tip to the final buzzer. We're lucky if we can run at all. The Spurs especially are known to dictate the opposing team's offense tempo and Nuggets have not been successful in recent encounters with them.
This game is no good indication of a team capable of having success at all in the playoffs. The Sonics did not play a lick of defense.
I want to see if the Nuggets can win at Detroit, another excellent defensive team, and should they win, not have a let down against a pretty hot Sixers team. I want this road trip to go 4-1... not a "fantastic" 3-2 or "acceptable" 2-3.
That's if they're serious about making more than just the playoffs.
it's "couldn't care less"...just to help you out.
but i agree with your premise. 50 wins and a flameout in the 1st round is no better than 42 wins and a flameout in the first round, or even 63 wins and losing in the first round. The point is that they need to show some evident progress towards becoming a championship team...and I haven't seen it. Are they any better off than when Bzdelik was here? probably not.
on a side note, it's nice to see Chucky "i think i tore my nutsack" Atkins to finally start shooting the ball and playing well. He gives them a 3rd or 4th (if you count Najera) good 3pt shooter. If they get Nene back...(damnit i'm falling into the same trap that I do every year)...the nuggets always make a run at the end of the season and get everyone all excited, and then choke come playoff time...i fully expect that again this season.
I don't see anything new with these 3 wins, they still run a kind of basketball that can't win anything. I think i'm even more discouraged than encourged after these games, i think a lot of us would prefer see this team play tough defense and a structured kind of bball rather than streeball. That are funny wins, but c'mon, they blew out shitty teams in this kind of way all season long and it has proven nothing.
You're one game off. I think the Nuggets are going to win 50 on the dot. I see that Sacramento game as a classic Nuggets trap game.
Denver and Golden State playing off for the 8th spot, yeah, that'd be great. Idiot.
I'm glad you're not letting up. Not getting out of the first round is a failure. Period. Not winning 50 games, whatever, missing the playoffs, haha, but getting there and not getting out again is incomprehensibly horrendous.
If Denver wins 50 games in this Western Conference you need to close up shop. The blog is already teetering on the edge, but dismissing 50 wins is too much.
Injuries are one thing. Every team gets the bug. But this team went almost an entire season playing an 8-man rotation in which Eddie Najera was the third biggest player and Anthony Carter was the starting point guard (with no backup).
Don't get me wrong, those players have performed as well as anyone could ever ask (for which GK gets no credit) but come on.
Nene, no matter how out of shape (nevermind if he was in last year's playoff form) gives Camby, Martin and Najera more rest. It gives the front court the matchup-flexibility that make the game easier on them.
And we'll see whether or not this holds for the rest of the season, but there's no way you can argue the Chucky Atkins we're seeing now -- hitting threes and dishing out assists without taking away from anyone else's numbers, minimizing turnovers -- isn't worth at least 3 wins this year.
Truthfully, I don't think we do make the playoffs (I hope I'm wrong). But if we reach 50 wins, it's not on GK or the players. They got hit with injuries at two spots they couldn't afford in a year where the West made Deadwood seem tame.
And for you people that think championships grow on trees and replacing coaches is the smart play everytime.
In the last 20 years only six different coaches and six different franchises have won NBA Championships.
Of those coaches, Phil Jackson and Gregg Popovich aren't going anywhere (if you can figure out a way to get them, I'll start kidnapgeorgekarl.com).
Rudy T is over at USA and Chuck Daly is retired. Since winning the NBA finals, Tomjanovich got to 50 wins in one of nine seasons while Daly managed it in one of six seasons.
Meanwhile Pat Riley is coaching the worst team in the NBA (they have 11 wins) and Larry Brown can't get a job save for sabotaging Mo Cheeks' career.
The grass is always greener, I know. Just make sure there ain't shit in the lawn is all.
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nadum
If you think playing streetball without a real foundation system of offense and defense can ever win this team a championship, then no wonder you're not seeing the point of this site.
Winning 50 games does not mean anything more than a reflection of how talented this team is. Give this team any competitive coach and it can win 50 games.
It's the belief that George will never be able to win this team any title we should fire him. What's the use of winning 50, 60 games without competing for a championship?
Anonymous,
It's all fine and dandy to criticize but the point is, you have absolutely no idea what the alternative is. I'm suggesting that it's not nearly as good as you think it is.
Again. In 20 years only 6 coaches have won NBA titles. Teams with more talent and less injuries have been bounced without winning the Finals.
50 wins this year, against this West, which is probably the most competitive conference I've seen in my lifetime, does not warrant firing your head coach.
nadum
Let's see how the team plays in Detroit tonight.
My guess is it will be lazy, it will severely lack focus, energy, sense of urgency. Here's the point: the coach will not only look disinterested but also will do nothing to change it.
Team will be exasperated as their foundation-less offense will succumb to Detroit's proper defense system.
And as usual a loss that is not only a loss. But a loss that makes you think, "is this a team that even wants to go to the playoffs? Much less a team that can win a championship in the next few years"
What bothers me is the perception on some Nuggets fans here that seem to forget this team is designed to be a championship team and NOT to be in the playoffs, be "pretty dangerous", then get beat every year early. There seems to be a settlement for this among some Nugget fans that the team is a pretty good playoffs team instead of what it can live up to, a championship contender.
That's my guess, although I'm hoping the Nuggets can prove me wrong.
Nuggets @ Detroit
Effort, energy, sense of urgency are there except for wannabe franchise Melo again of course...
Let me ask anyone here, if you're working your ass off and your colleague is taking it easy and laughing, when he's supposed to work as hard for the company's success, would you be pissed? Yeah, I hope they trade Melo for a real franchise player that really wants to win. Melo's a joke.
This streetball can't work... Nuggets are finding out what it's like to face teams that rotate perfectly on defense, box out on every rebounds (unlike the Sonics), teams that want to win... HAHA...
- Snake -
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